Why are many people so partisan?

[Airalee]

 

[save the frogs]

6 hours ago, frank83628 said:

no, it can only be a good thing for any normal minded person, but i think because it's him, and also under Trump administration, he will find obstacles, hurdles and negative media in his way. this forum and comments on RFK already shows signs of that mentality.

 

I didn't like Trump before the election.

But now it seems some things they are doing is positive.

 

But most people refuse to admit they are wrong and are fixed in their ways. So even if Trump does sth good, they will never admit it. 

They cannot look at anything objectively anymore. 

 

[Presnock]

11 hours ago, Airalee said:

You really are a special kind of stupid.  You’re replying to my comment made to someone else rather than the comment made to you.

 

moron

well talking bout someone else, you should read the rules of this forum.  You are the typical bad mouthing type about just about everything.  I saw your comment on my note so I responded to that.

[atpeace]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am sure I am not 100% neutral, it's impossible to be.

But I can assure you that I see good and bad politics and good and bad actions on both sides of the US politics.

And similar for the politics in other countries.

Personally, I am against that narcistic serial liar Trump. How can anybody trust that guy?

I am not against the GOP. But then, I have difficulties with those spineless politicians who all said Trump is bad in 2016, and then over the years they pretend he is the smartest guy alive. He's not!

You're not the problem.  It's the unhinged segment of the left that repelled voters.  Democrats need to address their internal issues which I think they will over the next year.  Sometimes the worst outcome is a blessing!

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

You're not the problem.  It's the unhinged segment of the left that repelled voters.  Democrats need to address their internal issues which I think they will over the next year.  Sometimes the worst outcome is a blessing!

I hope they do that. But somehow, I don't have much hope.

It's so much easier to blame those bad racists and misogynists and all that. 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

You're not the problem.  It's the unhinged segment of the left that repelled voters.  Democrats need to address their internal issues which I think they will over the next year.  Sometimes the worst outcome is a blessing!

No Democrats do not need to do anything but double-down on pushing their hard-left ideology. 

 

Any thought of moderating need to be crushed! 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

I hope they do that. But somehow, I don't have much hope.

It's so much easier to blame those bad racists and misogynists and all that. 

You forgot stupid and maga fascists. 

 

It was only stupid maga fascist racist misogynists that voted for Trump. 

[atpeace]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:52 PM, AlexRich said:

Some obese guy with a MAGA baseball cap is going to wake up soon and discover the cost of insulin meds are now going to send him into bankruptcy. 

 

 

 

This is a bad thing?  That is the problem with some democrats. Individuals should be held accountable for their actions.  99% of obese people should not be supported financially with tax dollars for hospital visits or insulin.  They should pay for their choices with their own money in higher insurance premiums or cash out of pocket. 

 

Why is this so hard for some to understand.

[Hawaiian]

37 minutes ago, atpeace said:

This is a bad thing?  That is the problem with some democrats. Individuals should be held accountable for their actions.  99% of obese people should not be supported financially with tax dollars for hospital visits or insulin.  They should pay for their choices with their own money in higher insurance premiums or cash out of pocket. 

 

Why is this so hard for some to understand.

I am one who understands very well that these individuals are a burden on our healthcare system and should be given an alternative to cleanup their act or else start paying for their

unhealthy lifestyle.

Edited 3 hours ago by Hawaiian

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

I am one who understands very well that these individuals are a burden on our healthcare system and should be given an alternative to cleanup their act or else start paying for their

unhealthy lifestyle.

And let's not forget the drug addicts, bottomless pit supporting them as well. 

[Hawaiian]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And let's not forget the drug addicts, bottomless pit supporting them as well. 

Agree.  If they refuse detox and rehab cut them off.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

This is a bad thing?  That is the problem with some democrats. Individuals should be held accountable for their actions.  99% of obese people should not be supported financially with tax dollars for hospital visits or insulin.  They should pay for their choices with their own money in higher insurance premiums or cash out of pocket. 

 

Why is this so hard for some to understand.

And should all those people with chronic disease make the pharma companies rich?

I understand that you argue people should pay themselves. But should they pay what the actual medicine cost? Or 10 times more?

 

"According to a recent RAND Corporation study, the gross price of insulin in the U.S. is more than nine times higher than in 33 high-income comparison nations."

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And should all those people with chronic disease make the pharma companies rich?

I understand that you argue people should pay themselves. But should they pay what the actual medicine cost? Or 10 times more?

 

"According to a recent RAND Corporation study, the gross price of insulin in the U.S. is more than nine times higher than in 33 high-income comparison nations."

First, the Biden insulin price cap has not yet kicked in, so no one is paying less than they did. Big pharma supported Harris in the election. 

 

Virtually no one is paying hundreds of dollars a day for insulin. People that are uninsured are subsidized by the government.

 

Putting a limit on what a company can charge for something may work in the short run, but it stifles competition. 

 

Making developing competitive drugs cheaper and easier will drive prices down, while it promotes innovation.

 

If the government pit a limit on what one can charge for a mobile phone, how do you see that ending?

[atpeace]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And should all those people with chronic disease make the pharma companies rich?

I understand that you argue people should pay themselves. But should they pay what the actual medicine cost? Or 10 times more?

 

"According to a recent RAND Corporation study, the gross price of insulin in the U.S. is more than nine times higher than in 33 high-income comparison nations."

Agreed - something is broken.  Not allowing advertisements targeting the general public might help a little.  I wonder how much money is spent on promoting the drugs vs most nations that don't allow it.  My second job out of university was at a pharmaceutical marketing company and was always amazed with the seemingly infinite money they could spend on marketing.  

 

It would be curious if anyone had breakdown of revenue for the drug companies ( profit and expenses ).  I guess I could dive into drug company annual reports but that would be tedious 🙂

[OneMoreFarang]

28 minutes ago, mogandave said:

First, the Biden insulin price cap has not yet kicked in, so no one is paying less than they did. Big pharma supported Harris in the election. 

 

Virtually no one is paying hundreds of dollars a day for insulin. People that are uninsured are subsidized by the government.

 

Putting a limit on what a company can charge for something may work in the short run, but it stifles competition. 

 

Making developing competitive drugs cheaper and easier will drive prices down, while it promotes innovation.

 

If the government pit a limit on what one can charge for a mobile phone, how do you see that ending?

Then why are people all over the world be able to buy insulin and many other drugs so much cheaper?

A hint: It's not the cost of the production; it's the profit margins of the companies.

[atpeace]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

Then why are people all over the world be able to buy insulin and many other drugs so much cheaper?

A hint: It's not the cost of the production; it's the profit margins of the companies.

How much higher are the profit margins?  I would guess about 5%.  Where is the other 995% going that accounts for the 10x costs?