Racism or "just" bad behavior at Pattaya City Hospital?

[Ralf001]

44 minutes ago, jimn said:

What medication is that? I lay a bet you can get easily from pharmacy in a generic form.

555.. yeah aint telling you what meds they are but I can gaurantee they are not available as a generic OTC at a general pharmacy.

 

Even if there were.... yeah I would still buy from hospital... my inusrance pays for them and I get the whole day off work (paid) to visit my doc and get my meds !

[G_Money]

Switch to Bangkok Pattaya.  No silly xenophobic nonsense.

[BangkokReady]

12 hours ago, quake said:

Yes sure.

All them thousands of Thai people not to have a job.

Like hundreds  of bank staff,  hundreds of workers  at Big-C, Lotus, Makro, shops, taxi drivers, blue and whit collar workers.

Hospital workers, doctors , nurses, just to mention a few.

Yes way to go man.

 

Do you really think that all the same people would be there now if it had remained a fishing village?  Do you know how humans function?

 

12 hours ago, quake said:

Dumbest post of the week. 

 

A pretty bold statement, given the above...  😬

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

I've never experienced that kind of discrimination anywhere in Thailand.   Regarding repeat prescriptions, in Bangkok I always order mine COD from a pharmacy on Rama 4. Always delivered within 24 hours. A polite, friendly and efficient service.

 

I have..  The people of Thailand are generally wonderful and welcoming, however, there are the 'odd few' who have an issue... 

 

One such person is one of the officers at the DLT (Area 3 Bangkok) - while not offensive, she was less than indifferent, to the degree that it was clear she did not like 'Foreigners' (Westerners), or just me... 

 

 

 

- While at the DLT going into the 'test room' she yapped at me "You, outside, cannot test, you have shorts"

 

- "OK, no problem, I have trousers in the car and can change... But, what about those 3 (Thai guys) also wearing shorts that you have ignored ???"...   

 

- OK, ok... "you do the tests", she barked. 

- to which I replied.."No, I'll go and change into trousers"...   

 

... So there I was, in trousers after she complained that I was wearing shorts and couldn't do the test, while 3 Thai guys were wearing shorts right in front of her...   She wasn't best pleased with that.... 

 

As I said, not rude, but obviously took disliking to me, or dislikes foreigners in General....

 

... It happens... but 99% of encounters here range from normal indifference to extremely positive. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by richard_smith237

[Confuscious]

14 hours ago, Parsve said:

Let me start by saying that this does not apply to all staff. Most are very nice. I visit said hospital about every two months for refills on high blood pressure medication.

 

About six months ago, when I was going to register, I was waiting in line. When it was my turn, the registrar looked up at me, pointed, and said, "Go and stand last in line". There were 8 to 10 Thais behind me. He refused to register me unless I waited until the Thais were registered.

 

On November 14, it was again time to refill medicine. This is not a complicated procedure, the effective time from when I register until I receive and pay for the medicine is about 10 minutes, of which two to three are at the doctor's (the doctor asks how I feel and then signs the prescription).

This time the registration and the nurse's questions went quickly. As usual, I was referred to "station 4", where I assume that what the nurse at the previous station wrote down on the registration is transferred to a database. I left my document in a basket in front of the two nurses and one of them picked it up. Wait she said, and I waited for five hours to be exact. In the meantime, they let about 50 people who had come after me, in to the doctor. I approached the nurse and asked what was going on, sit down and wait a moment she said. I waited another half hour, then I went to the other nurse and said, give me my document.

In front of her was a stack of about 10 documents for the next round to be admitted to the doctor, but mine wasn't there. She knew, however, without asking me for my name, immediately where it was. It was alone about a meter from the pile where it should have been several hours earlier. I took the document and went out with the words. There are more and better hospitals in the city.

It cannot be blamed on unfortunate circumstances. In both cases, everyone involved knew very well what they were doing. Many, both foreigners and Thais, that I have spoken to about these events say that they have similar experiences from the same hospital.

 

60 years ago, Pattaya was an insignificant fishing village, now, thanks to tourism, it is a big city. Before the pandemic, tourism accounted for more than 21% of Thailand's GDP and it still accounts for a high proportion of Thailand's income, not least thanks to the foreigners who are permanent residents here. Unfortunately, some of the staff and management of the said hospital don't seem to understand that without us, Pattaya would degenerate back into a fishing village, because just like there are other hospitals in Pattaya, there are other places that can offer the same thing as Pattaya, but with a friendly attitude ( I look forward to an explanation of the behavior from the hospital management).

Something similar happened to me about 20 years ago.
A few days before Christmas I was at the local post office in Korat to send a few letters to my country.
I took a queue number and joined the people before me.
A "woman" came into the post office and took also a queue number, but instead of joining the queue she went in front of me and started her racist tirade: "You are a FOREIGNER and you need to let the THAI people go first", "You are a guest in our country and you need to learn a little bit of humbleness", etc...
The officer at the post office had watched this and came from behind his desk with 2 other man.
They took the woman up, "escorted" her the the outside, and told her to go to an other post office as people like her were not welcome at that post office.
When I got to the desk, the officer excused himself for the behavior of that woman and wished me a happy Christmas.
There are good and bad Thai people.
Sometimes, you meet one of these bad apples.

[Purdey]

3 hours ago, DavisH said:

Alien is a legal definition. And rightly so, foreigners should NOT be allowed to own land in LoS. The Arabs and Chinese will overrun the place. Be thankful you can own a condo. 

I own a house with a usufruct agreement.

Anyway. How come you didn't add that Thais own land in the EU and the UK so why not here?

[Purdey]

5 hours ago, ravip said:

I think there is nothing wrong with the above.

No country would do good to sell their land off freely to all and sundry.

Canada.
United States.
United Kingdom.

Mexico
France
Italy
Germany

So why can't we?

[herfiehandbag]

5 hours ago, Peterphuket said:

100km swimming.

Is that ferry service still going? In fact did it ever get going?

[ravip]

9 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Canada.
United States.
United Kingdom.

Mexico
France
Italy
Germany

So why can't we?

At those prices and conditions?

If at the current low rates, imagine the status the country would be in with the classy foreigners around? ...and the above mentioned countries are not without problems due to migrants, is that not a fact?

Edited 14 hours ago by ravip

[Purdey]

Just now, ravip said:

At those prices and conditions?

Well, it simply means that there are countries where you can buy land.

[ravip]

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Well, it simply means that there are countries where you can buy land.

Not without serious issues, right?

[bkk6060]

I have had just the opposite expereince they seem to bend over backwards for Falang.

Did you have an appt? Sorry, seems pretty much a waste to wait for 5 hours?  30 minutes at the most.

[herfiehandbag]

I have an open wound on my foot. I have had it following major surgery on a badly infected foot, some four years ago. It simply refuses to heal up.

 

I go to have the wound dressed daily, weekdays at a local (government clinic) which charges B40 a time, weekends at the local hospital B120 a time. 

One of the (male) nurses at the hospital seems to get some sort of pleasure in hurting me when he (roughly) treats the wound. A couple of times ago I cried out in pain and the three other nurses in the emergency room all had a go at him. Now it seems to be the drill that a Nurses Aide strips off the old dressing, a Nurse has a look, and instructs the Nurse Aide while she ever so gently cleans the wound, and puts on a new dressing. I think, frankly, he is a <deleted>, the others are kind and gentle, and a credit to their profession!

Edited 14 hours ago by herfiehandbag

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

I have had just the opposite expereince they seem to bend over backwards for Falang.

Did you have an appt? Sorry, seems pretty much a waste to wait for 5 hours?  30 minutes at the most.

 

At Pattaya City Hospital ?

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

I have an open wound on my foot. I have had it following major surgery on a badly infected foot, some four years ago. It simply refuses to heal up.

 

I go to have the wound dressed daily, weekdays at a local (government clinic) which charges B40 a time, weekends at the local hospital B120 a time. 

One of the (male) nurses at the hospital seems to get some sort of pleasure in hurting me when he (roughly) treats the wound. A couple of times ago I cried out in pain and the three other nurses in the emergency room all had a go at him. Now it seems to be the drill that a Nurses Aide strips off the old dressing, a Nurse has a look, and instructs the Nurse Aide while she gently cleans the wound, and puts on a new dressing. I think, frankly, he is a <deleted>, the others are kind and gentle, and a credit to their profession!

 

you have had an open wound on your foot for 4yrs ?

[herfiehandbag]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

 

you have had an open wound on your foot for 4yrs ?

Yes. I ended up with a badly poisoned foot, having stepped on a piece of rebar wire sticking out of the ground. It penetrated deep (about 3cm) into the web between my toes. Within 36 hours my foot had ballooned to the size of a papaya. I had surgery, which removed most of the flesh from 3 areas ( the tendons to my toes were exposed) I can send you photos if you want - do you remember that weird German "artist" who was stripping flesh from corpses and "plasticising" the insides, looked like that!

 

The surgeon told me another 24 hours I would have lost my leg, 48 hours it would have killed me.

 

Two of the gaping holes have healed over, the third simply will not. It covers a triangle about 3cm x 3cm x 5cm on the outside of the foot.  I have had plastic surgery, which failed, I am contemplating another bout of plastic surgery in the new year. 

[MarkyM3]

14 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

 

What a dumb arrogant post.

 

What would your country be if there wasn't for millions of (legal) immigrants who to this day contribute to your pension, so you can retire in another country?

 

Ah, themanfromthebalkans. Calling this guy arrogant is pot and kettle - you didn't have much good to say about Canada despite benefitting from your migration there based upon your past posts here and on TV. Then you slagged off Thailand endlessly on here and moved back.....before a quick 180 🤪 

 

I think you'll find a fair chunk of the immigrants in my home country take out more in transfer payments than they contribute. As per independent Oxford academic mainstream research. Yes, plenty do jobs locals don't want but plenty don't offer much either. Most of the retirees posting on here worked hard and paid plenty of tax and also made private arrangements so they could retire abroad. The people we have to thank for where we are in life are ourselves and our families, not millions of immigrants. They've had the opportunity to migrate to a better future so if anyone is going to be saying thanks, it's this group. 

 

And...the OP is right. Pattaya would be nothing much without foreigners, it would be a quiet retreat for locals coming down from Bangkok for the weekend. You might not like that but it's the case. I was in Thailand throughout C19 and the tourist sector was on its knees.

 

Either way, that's beside the point. The treatment he got in hospital is not acceptable irrespective of nationality. The staff need a boll*ocking if they want to treat their customers like that. OP needs to take his business elsewhere and not be treated like a walkover.

Edited 10 hours ago by MarkyM3

[Patong2021]

Government hospital is where Thais of limited financial means go and is perceived as being for Thai people. Operations  are paid for by the Thai people. it is conceivable that some Thais may resent non Thais taking advantage of their facilities. Right or wrong it is the perception.   Go to a different hospital if possible.

 

8 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

Why do you need to see the doctor for refills on medication especially BP or cholesterol?

Go to any pharmacy…

 

Some BP medication doses must be adjusted to ensure they are the right dose. It can take  months to get the right dose for some people.

 

 

[Captor]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:06 PM, Parsve said:

Let me start by saying that this does not apply to all staff. Most are very nice. I visit said hospital about every two months for refills on high blood pressure medication.

 

About six months ago, when I was going to register, I was waiting in line. When it was my turn, the registrar looked up at me, pointed, and said, "Go and stand last in line". There were 8 to 10 Thais behind me. He refused to register me unless I waited until the Thais were registered.

 

On November 14, it was again time to refill medicine. This is not a complicated procedure, the effective time from when I register until I receive and pay for the medicine is about 10 minutes, of which two to three are at the doctor's (the doctor asks how I feel and then signs the prescription).

This time the registration and the nurse's questions went quickly. As usual, I was referred to "station 4", where I assume that what the nurse at the previous station wrote down on the registration is transferred to a database. I left my document in a basket in front of the two nurses and one of them picked it up. Wait she said, and I waited for five hours to be exact. In the meantime, they let about 50 people who had come after me, in to the doctor. I approached the nurse and asked what was going on, sit down and wait a moment she said. I waited another half hour, then I went to the other nurse and said, give me my document.

In front of her was a stack of about 10 documents for the next round to be admitted to the doctor, but mine wasn't there. She knew, however, without asking me for my name, immediately where it was. It was alone about a meter from the pile where it should have been several hours earlier. I took the document and went out with the words. There are more and better hospitals in the city.

It cannot be blamed on unfortunate circumstances. In both cases, everyone involved knew very well what they were doing. Many, both foreigners and Thais, that I have spoken to about these events say that they have similar experiences from the same hospital.

 

60 years ago, Pattaya was an insignificant fishing village, now, thanks to tourism, it is a big city. Before the pandemic, tourism accounted for more than 21% of Thailand's GDP and it still accounts for a high proportion of Thailand's income, not least thanks to the foreigners who are permanent residents here. Unfortunately, some of the staff and management of the said hospital don't seem to understand that without us, Pattaya would degenerate back into a fishing village, because just like there are other hospitals in Pattaya, there are other places that can offer the same thing as Pattaya, but with a friendly attitude ( I look forward to an explanation of the behavior from the hospital management).

If you give the name of the hospital maybe more people here go to other hospitals. Maybe that can have some impact on the hospital.

[Thingamabob]

14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I have..  The people of Thailand are generally wonderful and welcoming, however, there are the 'odd few' who have an issue... 

 

One such person is one of the officers at the DLT (Area 3 Bangkok) - while not offensive, she was less than indifferent, to the degree that it was clear she did not like 'Foreigners' (Westerners), or just me... 

 

 

 

- While at the DLT going into the 'test room' she yapped at me "You, outside, cannot test, you have shorts"

 

- "OK, no problem, I have trousers in the car and can change... But, what about those 3 (Thai guys) also wearing shorts that you have ignored ???"...   

 

- OK, ok... "you do the tests", she barked. 

- to which I replied.."No, I'll go and change into trousers"...   

 

... So there I was, in trousers after she complained that I was wearing shorts and couldn't do the test, while 3 Thai guys were wearing shorts right in front of her...   She wasn't best pleased with that.... 

 

As I said, not rude, but obviously took disliking to me, or dislikes foreigners in General....

 

... It happens... but 99% of encounters here range from normal indifference to extremely positive. 

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds to me as though she didn't like something about your appearance including your wearing shorts. I thought it was by now well known that foreigners should dress and behave decently when attending an immigration office. 

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Government hospital is where Thais of limited financial means go and is perceived as being for Thai people. Operations  are paid for by the Thai people. it is conceivable that some Thais may resent non Thais taking advantage of their facilities.

Yes, in as much as there are a variety of charging schemes operated, depending on income level. As a foreigner you are very definitely on the top tier scheme. Thais are very much aware of that. They love to know, and compare, how much I pay! That is why (and I am not complaining) a routine wound dressing may cost me B240, for a Thai it may be as low as B30.

[Peterphuket]

13 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Is that ferry service still going? In fact did it ever get going?

It have been going, but long time ago, there was to little interest, so disbanded.

[FritsSikkink]

On 11/15/2024 at 3:06 AM, Parsve said:

Let me start by saying that this does not apply to all staff. Most are very nice. I visit said hospital about every two months for refills on high blood pressure medication.

 

About six months ago, when I was going to register, I was waiting in line. When it was my turn, the registrar looked up at me, pointed, and said, "Go and stand last in line". There were 8 to 10 Thais behind me. He refused to register me unless I waited until the Thais were registered.

 

On November 14, it was again time to refill medicine. This is not a complicated procedure, the effective time from when I register until I receive and pay for the medicine is about 10 minutes, of which two to three are at the doctor's (the doctor asks how I feel and then signs the prescription).

This time the registration and the nurse's questions went quickly. As usual, I was referred to "station 4", where I assume that what the nurse at the previous station wrote down on the registration is transferred to a database. I left my document in a basket in front of the two nurses and one of them picked it up. Wait she said, and I waited for five hours to be exact. In the meantime, they let about 50 people who had come after me, in to the doctor. I approached the nurse and asked what was going on, sit down and wait a moment she said. I waited another half hour, then I went to the other nurse and said, give me my document.

In front of her was a stack of about 10 documents for the next round to be admitted to the doctor, but mine wasn't there. She knew, however, without asking me for my name, immediately where it was. It was alone about a meter from the pile where it should have been several hours earlier. I took the document and went out with the words. There are more and better hospitals in the city.

It cannot be blamed on unfortunate circumstances. In both cases, everyone involved knew very well what they were doing. Many, both foreigners and Thais, that I have spoken to about these events say that they have similar experiences from the same hospital.

 

60 years ago, Pattaya was an insignificant fishing village, now, thanks to tourism, it is a big city. Before the pandemic, tourism accounted for more than 21% of Thailand's GDP and it still accounts for a high proportion of Thailand's income, not least thanks to the foreigners who are permanent residents here. Unfortunately, some of the staff and management of the said hospital don't seem to understand that without us, Pattaya would degenerate back into a fishing village, because just like there are other hospitals in Pattaya, there are other places that can offer the same thing as Pattaya, but with a friendly attitude ( I look forward to an explanation of the behavior from the hospital management).

You can buy blood pressure medication at every small pharmacy in minutes for a much better price.

[Celsius]

10 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

Ah, themanfromthebalkans. Calling this guy arrogant is pot and kettle - you didn't have much good to say about Canada despite benefitting from your migration there based upon your past posts here and on TV. Then you slagged off Thailand endlessly on here and moved back.....before a quick 180 🤪 

 

I think you'll find a fair chunk of the immigrants in my home country take out more in transfer payments than they contribute. As per independent Oxford academic mainstream research. Yes, plenty do jobs locals don't want but plenty don't offer much either. Most of the retirees posting on here worked hard and paid plenty of tax and also made private arrangements so they could retire abroad. The people we have to thank for where we are in life are ourselves and our families, not millions of immigrants. They've had the opportunity to migrate to a better future so if anyone is going to be saying thanks, it's this group. 

 

And...the OP is right. Pattaya would be nothing much without foreigners, it would be a quiet retreat for locals coming down from Bangkok for the weekend. You might not like that but it's the case. I was in Thailand throughout C19 and the tourist sector was on its knees.

 

Either way, that's beside the point. The treatment he got in hospital is not acceptable irrespective of nationality. The staff need a boll*ocking if they want to treat their customers like that. OP needs to take his business elsewhere and not be treated like a walkover.

 

I agree with everything you said including me being a hypocrite