UK Pensioners in Thailand Face New Scrutiny Over Pension Fraud

[transam]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As non residents can't open new UK bank accounts, you won't be getting a pension either.

 

Can you imagine the banks trying to process 13M new accounts for pensioners, many of whom can't even remember their own names?

 

What complete and utter nonsense you're writing, get some help!

They know I live here and am not on the fiddle, they pay me directly, but, if I get a form to fill in, no problem.......Next......😉

[hotandsticky]

23 minutes ago, baansgr said:

It's nothing new, they have always been able to look at any ones bank account if they have suspicion of money laundering/ benefit fraud etc.  

 

 

No they haven't.......................not without a court order.

[Celsius]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

 

Let's be honest, it is a common sense move to catch pension benefit fraudsters..

 

So many of them on this websightes and countries 

 

I am happy for the crackdowns as taxpayer money was used for playing bridge.

 

[transam]

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As non residents can't open new UK bank accounts, you won't be getting a pension either.

 

Can you imagine the banks trying to process 13M new accounts for pensioners, many of whom can't even remember their own names?

 

What complete and utter nonsense you're writing, get some help!

It seems you are struggling............🤔

[bradiston]

3 hours ago, Celsius said:

In Canada customs and border agency is linked to revenue agency. They know exactly when you left and how long have you been out.

 

Nothing like this exists in UK? No wonder UK is a country of choice for Mahmood and Patel.

 

They are screwing Pattaya prostitutes with government money.

The revenue department in the UK operates under the title HMRC, which is His Majesty's Revenue and Customs. The pensions and benefits department is separate and is known as the DWP, Department of Work and Pensions. They do share data. I notified the DWP of a change of address (known as a notifiable change in circumstances) and thereafter received communications from HMRC at that address. I think you have to assume they could know everything about you if they so desired, and act accordingly.

Edited 4 hours ago by bradiston

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

It seems you are struggling............🤔

I feel sorry for you.

[hotandsticky]

4 hours ago, transam said:

Watching YouTube vids last night, one came up on what is going to happen from January 2025 regarding the fraud and the pension 'benefit'. So I watched it and was taken aback by what is REALLY going to happen that will affect ALL pensioners wherever you reside, including the UK.

 

Take too long to go through it on here, you must watch and listen to every word till the end of the vid.

Later another vid came up on the same subject, I watched it, more or less the same contact, then another, same, all confirming what is going to happen, and one thing is clear, those claiming the full pension and living in LOS will have something to worry about.

 

Pensioners in the UK will get letters with forms to fill in, phone numbers, addresses, bank account etc details. Bank statements, to look at where payments are going over periods, payments for normal living in the UK. 

The bloke on here who keeps making stories up will soon be riding off into the sun-set, as what the Gov is now going to do, will bury him...

 

I have said for years on here, one day the dots will line up, for sure this is the first major step.....😱 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, that is 15 minutes of my life that I won't get back.

 

 

 

[baansgr]

22 minutes ago, transam said:

So you haven't watched the very informative videos to point out what is going to happen for folk to receive their UK state pension............🙄

Let me try and explain it as simply as I can...

 

As I understand it........

ALL UK state pensions will only be paid into a DWP website account to recipients, no other way. 

So, you will have to set up an account with them, if you don't, no payment.

 

The videos explain what is going to happen to stop those on the fiddle (living in a country with no reciprocal agreement) is included, hence the Designated DWP account, which they can monitor.

 

Let's be honest, it is a common sense move to catch pension benefit fraudsters..

Just wasted 30 minutes, nothing in there of opening a new bank account, and the video is done for profit by a private company..you are full of BS...and I paid £150 a year stamp for the last 20 years whilst abroad and now have full state pension entitlement in a few years, and cost me less that £3k and I have a bank account and address in PI so will get yearly increases...so stick that in ya pipe and smoke it😁😁😁

[transam]

13 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Just wasted 30 minutes, nothing in there of opening a new bank account, and the video is done for profit by a private company..you are full of BS...and I paid £150 a year stamp for the last 20 years whilst abroad and now have full state pension entitlement in a few years, and cost me less that £3k and I have a bank account and address in PI so will get yearly increases...so stick that in ya pipe and smoke it😁😁😁

You will come back and tell us if it all went pear shaped, won't you...........

[baansgr]

22 minutes ago, transam said:

You will come back and tell us if it all went pear shaped, won't you...........

How can it???...gotta be one step ahead ole boy👍😁

[transam]

Just now, baansgr said:

How can it???...gotta be one step ahead ole boy👍😁

Yeh, riiiight....................🤣

 

But, you maybe right, but the vast majority of numpties would have listened to numpties, the no facts numpty brigade, and get stuffed, big time.........🤕

Though I am sure you will tell us how to get around the latest DWP thingies, eh, and past fraudulent thieving.........🤭

 

[MRMOUSE]

On 11/15/2024 at 10:51 AM, sammieuk1 said:

My passport has "temporary stay " stamped in it so I don't or ever will live here end of story Keir 🤔

 

 

If the temporary stay exceeds 183 days you are resident for tax purposes

[proton]

20 hours ago, transam said:

We know all that, but no Party is interested in changing the ruling.....🤔

 

Labour was in 2019, it was in their manifesto

[proton]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

It's nothing new, they have always been able to look at any ones bank account if they have suspicion of money laundering/ benefit fraud etc. That will always be the case, what is different is the ease of obtaining such information from banks. Pretty much ado about nothing, a mountain and mole hill. Lots of jealous scaremongering going on but funny to read the replies from ex SAS and police inspetors

 

Only if they have enough prior evidence to warrant a court order to see your accounts, the new law, if passed, would bypass this 

Edited 2 hours ago by proton

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

No they haven't.......................not without a court order.

Yes they have, a court order is only required when further action is needed👍

 

53 minutes ago, transam said:

Yeh, riiiight....................🤣

 

But, you maybe right, but the vast majority of numpties would have listened to numpties, the no facts numpty brigade, and get stuffed, big time.........🤕

Though I am sure you will tell us how to get around the latest DWP thingies, eh, and past fraudulent thieving.........🤭

 

Class 2 contributions and PI is guaranteed increases..what's fraudulent or thieving about that?

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

Just wasted 30 minutes, nothing in there of opening a new bank account, and the video is done for profit by a private company..you are full of BS...and I paid £150 a year stamp for the last 20 years whilst abroad and now have full state pension entitlement in a few years, and cost me less that £3k and I have a bank account and address in PI so will get yearly increases...so stick that in ya pipe and smoke it😁😁😁

 

  Don't you need to pay for 33 years to get the full state pension ?

[baansgr]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Don't you need to pay for 33 years to get the full state pension ?

35 years or..maybe more if you were contracted out..I worked in UK for over 20 years and kept up paying after leaving for a few years so have 35 in total

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, baansgr said:

35 years or..maybe more if you were contracted out..I worked in UK for over 20 years and kept up paying after leaving for a few years so have 35 in total

 

   Don't you now have to wait until you are 97 years old to be able to claim the new full pension ?

[baansgr]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Don't you now have to wait until you are 97 years old to be able to claim the new full pension ?

I don't think so...97, wow..66 at present increases to 67 in 2028

[transam]

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Labour was in 2019, it was in their manifesto

5 years back, as I said, nobodies interested....

[transam]

58 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Yes they have, a court order is only required when further action is needed👍

 

Class 2 contributions and PI is guaranteed increases..what's fraudulent or thieving about that?

Eh.........?  🤔

[transam]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

Yes they have, a court order is only required when further action is needed👍

 

Class 2 contributions and PI is guaranteed increases..what's fraudulent or thieving about that?

Doesn't matter what class NI you paid for 35 years, no increases in Thailand, unless you are on the fiddle..........😋

[baansgr]

37 minutes ago, transam said:

Doesn't matter what class NI you paid for 35 years, no increases in Thailand, unless you are on the fiddle..........😋

183 days in PI rest here...anymore stupid comments???

[James9999]

3 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

So many of them on this websightes and countries 

 

I am happy for the crackdowns as taxpayer money was used for playing bridge.

 

Not bothered about people claiming unemployment benefit and working, builders who demand to be paid in cash, benefit claimants who aren't even in the country, child benefit payments for children not even in the country, Then the biggest scum bag cheats of the lot, the tech companies with their off shore tax havens. No you go after pensioner living overseas and getting the annual increment. Must be all of 0.01% and all the scum bag cheats screwing over the UK. The biggest of sharing the same name as a South American river or Thai retail coffee chain. Websightes, for God's sake learn some English.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, baansgr said:

183 days in PI rest here...anymore stupid comments???

What is PI, I am not a mind reader....?

 

As for stupid comments, you have done very well with those, so far..........🤭

[bradiston]

1 minute ago, transam said:

What is PI, I am not a mind reader....?

 

As for stupid comments, you have done very well with those, so far..........🤭

Philippines

[transam]

Just now, bradiston said:

Philippines

Thanks.......😉

[baansgr]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

What is PI, I am not a mind reader....?

 

As for stupid comments, you have done very well with those, so far..........🤭

What comments.of mine have been stupid, or is it because you realise yours are

[foreverlomsak]

On 11/15/2024 at 9:57 AM, Baht Simpson said:

This may lead to banks who allow expats to run an account in the U.K. to stop as it's not worth the extra admin. and they will close accounts arbitrarily. 

To me that's the most worrying part.

The bank has also been requesting, for years now, (in case they have a need for them) that I provide them with details of my  country of residence (I have only a Thai address, both the bank and HMRC/DWP are fully aware of that fact) and my Tax Identification Number, I have ignored that part of the request as the bank gives no interest on the account therefore there is no tax implications for them to be concerned with.

[transam]

6 minutes ago, baansgr said:

What comments.of mine have been stupid, or is it because you realise yours are

Don't worry about it, enjoy PI............😋