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1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Did they design it for the last one?

I did use the word "If" to start my post.

 

There are two competing theories:

 

Mutation of an existing virus in a Wuhan meat market via species transfer.

 

Accidental result of experimentation with viruses in a Wuhan laboratory.

 

The truth may never be known, due to CCP censorship.

 

I very much doubt it was the result of deliberate design and release. While the true death toll in China is estimated to be millions, the total lockdown of Chinese cities resulted in enormous economic damage.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I very much doubt it was the result of deliberate design and release. While the true death toll in China is estimated to be millions, the total lockdown of Chinese cities resulted in enormous economic damage.

 

You always conflate these two issues. Gain of function research on bat coronaviruses and deliberate release are obviously not mutually inclusive. I also doubt it was intentional release but I am in no doubt it's not zoonotic. There is ZERO evidence for zoonotic transfer.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Rabies and Ebola are both zoonotic.

 

There were all kinds of wild meats in the Wuhan market. About 38 species, kept in ideal cross infection conditions.

 

I said there were competing hypotheses re the origin of COVID. I'm keeping an open mind.

I'm not talking about rabies or Ebola. I'm saying that there is zero evidence for a zoonotic transfer of a bat coronavirus, a virus that was already adapted to be highly infectious to humans, came from the wet market in Wuhan. I still don't understand why the CCP would destroy evidence in the Wuhan Institute and yet be unable to provide any evidence of it originating from zoonosis in only one particular place, that place being a Wuhan wet market.

An interesting document from EcoHealth gained under FOI seeking funding for what is obviously gain of function research.

 

"According to leaked documents made public by the investigative group DRASTIC in September 2021, the EHA requested in its proposal a total $14,209,245 over 3.5 years ($8,411,546 for phase 1 and $5,797,699 for phase 2).

The EHA proposed injecting chimeric bat coronaviruses collected by researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) into “batified” mice and humanised mice genetically altered to express the human ACE-2 receptor."

 

"Recombinant viruses will be recovered in Vero cls, or in mouse cells over-expressing. human, bat or civet ACE2 receptors to support cultivation of viruses with a weaker RBD-human ACE2 interface."

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal

https://changingtimes.media/2024/01/19/scientists-say-ecohealth-alliances-defuse-proposal-was-a-blueprint-for-sars-cov-2/

 

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Posted
17 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

That is a very good point.

#1 if you do your job well, Trump is likely to fire you.

#2 if you disobey him, question him, or do something he does not like, he is likely to fire you.

#3 if he fires you, he will do everything in his power to make it look like it was your fault, and not his. He will trash your reputation. So, you are correct. Only low end, garbage candidates will be up for the job. And that is all he has picked to date.

Your #1 is rubbish, IMO.

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Posted
14 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Please get a spellchecker, or post when you are sober.

Are you some sort of lifestyle and spelling police "officer"  did you not understand anything of what I wrote even with spelling errors ?

Not surprised really that you fully supported the authoritarian Covidiocy mesures no matter how ridiculous they became.

 

Posted
23 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Fear mongering nonsense.

Rubbish vaccines have saved millions and millions of lives to put an anti vaxer anywhere near even within spitting distance of competent scientists that deal in facts is a disservice nay a betrayal of my people fear mongering indeed we Americans at best are facing a rough 4 years it will have worldwide consequences…..

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1 minute ago, johng said:

Are you some sort of lifestyle and spelling police "officer"  did you not understand anything of what I wrote even with spelling errors ?

Not surprised really that you fully supported the authoritarian Covidiocy mesures no matter how ridiculous they became.

 

I am not spelling police, it just hurts my eyes to see ignorance compounded.

 

The authoritarian Covidiocy measures in Australia resulted in that country having one of the lowest death rates from the pandemic. America had one of the highest.

 

I don't know where you sit in terms of logic, but that's pretty convincing evidence to me.

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5 minutes ago, Tug said:

Rubbish vaccines have saved millions and millions of lives to put an anti vaxer anywhere near even within spitting distance of competent scientists that deal in facts is a disservice nay a betrayal of my people fear mongering indeed we Americans at best are facing a rough 4 years it will have worldwide consequences…..

Show anywhere that I'm an anti-vaxxer. You simply sprout the demonizing rubbish pushed by Fauci and the legacy media. Don't want to take an experimental gene therapy jab you must be an anti-vaxxer. Complete and utter BS. I have also previously provided a YT video of RFK Jnr. saying he is not an anti-vaxxer. 

Posted
22 hours ago, Keep Right said:

It is unbelievable that some are complaining about Kennedy after years of mismanagement by Fauci and Levin. Kennedy will expose the lies and corruption under Biden's appointments.  

What is unbelievable is the amount of nonsense being posted by trumpies and Kennedy supporters, blaming Fauci et al for all sorts of rubbish, when in fact: –
In 2003, the Institute for Scientific Information stated that from 1983 to 2002, "Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among the 2.5 to 3.0 million authors in all disciplines throughout the world who published articles in scientific journals."As a government scientist under seven presidents, Fauci has been described as "a consistent spokesperson for science, a person who more than any other figure has brokered a generational peace" between the two worlds of science and politics.

 

And I notice on other posts there are the goobers who are still blaming Bill Gates for having a hand in the Covid 19 epidemic whilst not dwelling on the fact that Kennedy has for years questioned federal agencies charged with vaccine production and safety, promoted debunked claims linking vaccines to autism, and challenged the CDC’s recommended list of vaccines for children. He founded and chaired one of the nation’s most prominent anti-vaccine groups, Children’s Health Defense, a prolific and lucrative spreader of anti-vaccine misinformation online.

“One of the things that RFK jnr has been a leader in has been instilling mistrust in public health as a system and the people who do that work".

 

And as for the mRNA vaccine, well one can only hope that early trials on it as a potential cure for a cancer continue to show some success.....

An mRNA vaccine that programs the body to fight pancreatic cancer shows early promise | CNN
Brenda Goodman

Of the 16 patients who were able to complete all phases of the study, eight responded to the vaccine, which taught their immune systems how to recognize and fight off the cancer cells. None of those eight has seen their cancer return.

 

Becker's Hospital Review
News • May 11, 2023
Personalized pancreatic cancer vaccine shows promise in early trial
Mariah Taylor

Promising results for a pancreatic cancer vaccine found in a small, phase 1 study: 16 patients showed no signs of relapse after 18 months.
 

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

I'm not talking about rabies or Ebola. I'm saying that there is zero evidence for a zoonotic transfer of a bat coronavirus, a virus that was already adapted to be highly infectious to humans, came from the wet market in Wuhan. I still don't understand why the CCP would destroy evidence in the Wuhan Institute and yet be unable to provide any evidence of it originating from zoonosis in only one particular place, that place being a Wuhan wet market.

An interesting document from EcoHealth gained under FOI seeking funding for what is obviously gain of function research.

 

"According to leaked documents made public by the investigative group DRASTIC in September 2021, the EHA requested in its proposal a total $14,209,245 over 3.5 years ($8,411,546 for phase 1 and $5,797,699 for phase 2).

The EHA proposed injecting chimeric bat coronaviruses collected by researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) into “batified” mice and humanised mice genetically altered to express the human ACE-2 receptor."

 

"Recombinant viruses will be recovered in Vero cls, or in mouse cells over-expressing. human, bat or civet ACE2 receptors to support cultivation of viruses with a weaker RBD-human ACE2 interface."

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal

https://changingtimes.media/2024/01/19/scientists-say-ecohealth-alliances-defuse-proposal-was-a-blueprint-for-sars-cov-2/

 

 

How not to understand a scientific paper. The genetic modification was not performed on the virus, it was performed on the mice to allow them to be used as a proxy for bats for research.

 

Furthermore, the request seems to have been made well after coronavirus emerged.

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6 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

How not to understand a scientific paper. The genetic modification was not performed on the virus, it was performed on the mice to allow them to be used as a proxy for bats for research.

The DEFUSE proposal includes discussion about the planned introduction of human-specific cleavage sites into bat coronaviruses.

Do you understand this?

https://changingtimes.media/2024/01/19/scientists-say-ecohealth-alliances-defuse-proposal-was-a-blueprint-for-sars-cov-2/

 

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Posted
6 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Did they design it for the last one?

I believe someone did ..at first I thought China but more and more "evidence" seems to point to "someone"else who out sourced their dastardly "research" to the Wuhan institution.

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