Europe Braces for Escalation: Germany Mobilizes NATO Troops Amid Putin's Nuclear Threats

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, transam said:

USA military or Ukrainians.........?   😊

US by proxy

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, candide said:

More B.S. MAGA propaganda....

I hope not, impeach them all, paybacks a bitch!!

[Cryingdick]

Biden is doing nothing more than giving assistance to a slow suicide. It might ultimately help ther war end more quickly. Everytime Biden helps more Ukranians will die. There will be nobody left to fight sooner or later.

 

Putin now has access to an almost unlimited supply of soldiers. Let's just say some of those NK soldiers are probably from China and there is no shortage. Now before people call me evil and all of that I am not a fan of Putin but if you look strategically it is painfully obvious there is no way forward for Ukraine. 

 

The people themselves want a negotiated settlement because they would probably rather stay alive and eat. Not many have the appetite for an impossible war with winter setting on.

[frank83628]

54 minutes ago, transam said:

More gobbledygook.......Are the N.K. wearing Russian uniforms and have guns....YES or NO......?

None of us thought you could actually give a proper reply. 

[dinsdale]

36 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Biden is doing nothing more than giving assistance to a slow suicide. It might ultimately help ther war end more quickly. Everytime Biden helps more Ukranians will die. There will be nobody left to fight sooner or later.

 

Putin now has access to an almost unlimited supply of soldiers. Let's just say some of those NK soldiers are probably from China and there is no shortage. Now before people call me evil and all of that I am not a fan of Putin but if you look strategically it is painfully obvious there is no way forward for Ukraine. 

 

The people themselves want a negotiated settlement because they would probably rather stay alive and eat. Not many have the appetite for an impossible war with winter setting on.

I agree with most of your post. Ukrainian's want a negotiated settlement. I posted previously about this and this is the case. Sooner or later there will be nobody left to fight is also correct. As I continually say this war is a protracted war of attrition and the numbers are well and truly stacked on Putin's side. Some of the 10,000 DPRK detachment from China? This I doubt. No way forward for Ukraine is absolutely correct.  A negotiated ceasefire is the only way they will not lose more ground. As for winter setting in this is a big point as this should see things slow down. Not stop but hopefully slow down as it has the previous winters.

Sadly there's a few on here who will from this post accuse me of being a traitor, someone against freedom, someone that doesn't care about massive amounts of people dying, a Trump fan boy, a Putin boot licker etc., etc. To them I've got one thing to say. TRUMP WON

Edited Friday at 02:40 PM by dinsdale

[Cryingdick]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

I agree with most of your post. Ukrainian's want a negotiated settlement. I posted previously about this and this is the case. Sooner or later there will be nobody left to fight is also correct. As I continually say this war is a protracted war of attrition and the numbers are well and truly stacked on Putin's side. Some of the 10,000 DPRK detachment from China? This I doubt. No way forward for Ukraine is absolutely correct.  A negotiated ceasefire is the only way they will not lose more ground. As for winter setting in this is a big point as this should see things slow down. Not stop but hopefully slow down as it has the previous winters.

Sadly there's a few on here who will from this post accuse me of being a traitor, someone against freedom, someone that doesn't care about massive amounts of people dying, a Trump fan boy, a Putin boot licker etc., etc. To them I've got one thing to say. TRUMP WON

 

I am not saying part iof the current NK deployed are Chinese. I am saying in the future they can probably conjure up plenty of ethnic "Koreans " in China should they need more.

 

 

[black tabby12345]

Poo-tin, the Idiot of the  Century.

Always causes the Adverse Effects he dreads Worst by what he does.

 

Invasion of Ukraine triggered Sweden and Finland(used to be neutral) to become NATO members; Baltic Sea ended up as the 

'NATO Lake' where Rus fleet are completely under siege.

 

Making a Nuclear Bluff and NATO went into the state of Full Alert, they didn't get scared.

 

 

Edited Friday at 06:53 PM by black tabby12345

[TedG]

3 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

Poo-tin, the Idiot of the  Century.

Always causes the Adverse Effects he dreads Worst by what he does.

 

Invasion of Ukraine triggered Sweden and Finland(used to be neutral) to become NATO members; Baltic Sea ended up as the 

'NATO Lake' where Rus fleet are completely under siege.

 

Making a Nuclear Bluff and NATO went into the state of Full Alert, instead of scaring them away.

 

Putin messed up by invading Ukraine and stuck in a war he can't win.   Now he is trying to save face. 

[black tabby12345]

7 minutes ago, TedG said:

Putin messed up by invading Ukraine and stuck in a war he can't win.   Now he is trying to save face. 

 

Exactly.

No wonder that ass*ole is called  Putler. 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Right well I guess sometime in the next two months the world is going to end. Do you realize how MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) you sound?

The world isn't going to end for billions of years. Humanity may not be around for much longer though, if the maniacs don't stop escalating the war in Ukraine.

MAD is real, it exists and it will be used if it comes to it.

[TedG]

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The world isn't going to end for billions of years. Humanity may not be around for much longer though, if the maniacs don't stop escalating the war in Ukraine.

MAD is real, it exists and it will be used if it comes to it.

Does Putin have any agency? 

[transam]

12 hours ago, frank83628 said:

At least you admit to being old and past it.

 

Past what, what my age says I should be like...............😁

Guessing again........😘

[transam]

12 hours ago, frank83628 said:

None of us thought you could actually give a proper reply. 

Who is us, other Putin fanboy's......?  😁

[Hamus Yaigh]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The world isn't going to end for billions of years. Humanity may not be around for much longer though, if the maniacs don't stop escalating the war in Ukraine.

Who is the maniac here? Putin for starting it and you for spreading so much insane nonsense opinions that he should be allowed to continue as he wants.

[b17]

11 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Who is the maniac here? Putin for starting it and you for spreading so much insane nonsense opinions that he should be allowed to continue as he wants.

Putin knows better than anyone that any usage of nukes, tactical or otherwise, will result in Russia being turned into glass. There are several people required to fire nuclear weapons, and I'm confident that one of them will disagree with Putler's insanity if it comes to that...if you disagree, I suggest that you read up on a Russian submarine commander who resisted an order to fire a nuclear weapon during the Cuban missile crisis. Russians, as Sting might phrase it , "love their children too". 

 

's insanity. 

11 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Who is the maniac here? Putin for starting it and you for spreading so much insane nonsense opinions that he should be allowed to continue as he wants.

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Who is us, other Putin fanboy's......?  😁

The people reading this thread

[transam]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

The people reading this thread

The Putin supporter people or sensible people........?......🤔

[jas007]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The world isn't going to end for billions of years. Humanity may not be around for much longer though, if the maniacs don't stop escalating the war in Ukraine.

MAD is real, it exists and it will be used if it comes to it.

 I think the point of "Mutually Assured Destruction" is that, in theory, rational actors would have no reason to use nukes. as their use would be not in their best interest.   But it all falls apart when it becomes obvious that one side is not acting in a rational manner.  It's a game that can't be won. 

 

That's the danger the world is facing now.  The US is acting in a way that is not rational if one assumes that, at some point, Russia will no longer be "bluffing."  They make that assumption, but is it correct, necessarily?  I think not.  To think otherwise is either remarkably evil or remarkably stupid.   Billions of lives are being risked.  

 

 

[illisdean]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

How so

He meant Biden, ".....all things woke go to $hit.....", remember Trump said that.

 

 

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

He meant Biden, ".....all things woke go to $hit.....", remember Trump said that.

 

 

 

I would not be surprise if that link gets removed, even though it is the truth

[transam]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

He meant Biden, ".....all things woke go to $hit.....", remember Trump said that.

 

 

 

Typical Russian rhetoric, just to cover their invasion as justified...............😂

[transam]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I would not be surprise if that link gets removed, even though it is the truth

Sadly the truth has no effect on you, your hero invaded a sovereign nation for nothing, if they had succeeded, who would be next.

Come on, tell us, who would be next, you're in the Know........

[jas007]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Typical Russian rhetoric, just to cover their invasion as justified...............😂

Russian rhetoric?  If you ask me, it's the only sensible explanation for the stupidly of trying to start WW III, which is exactly what the current administration seems to be trying to do   People think that such a thing can't happen, but it absolutely can.   Hopefully, the world will make it through the next two months and Trump will tell Zelensky to make a deal or lose all funding.  What's left of Ukraine can.still be saved. perhaps.  

[candide]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

He meant Biden, ".....all things woke go to $hit.....", remember Trump said that.

 

 

 

Now we know where this MAGA talking point comes from! 

[transam]

8 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Russian rhetoric?  If you ask me, it's the only sensible explanation for the stupidly of trying to start WW III, which is exactly what the current administration seems to be trying to do   People think that such a thing can't happen, but it absolutely can.   Hopefully, the world will make it through the next two months and Trump will tell Zelensky to make a deal or lose all funding.  What's left of Ukraine can.still be saved. perhaps.  

😂..........So nothing to do a Hitler style tank convoy, heading to Kiev so they could strut around in their jack boots, then, that failed........😂

 

Seems you forgot the carnage of WWII, where aggressors HAD to be trounced, and were.

 

Japan, 2 big cities flattened, Germany, many cities destroyed, but YOU look at those cities now.

 

Invasions by tyrant 'dictators' should never succeed, never.....😐

[blaze master]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Invasions by tyrant 'dictators' should never succeed, never.....😐

 

Makes sense now why the Americans rejected a candidate backed by a war criminal and neocons. Who did some invading of their own. 

[TedG]

Ruble vs dollar.   Look at the trend. 

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Come on, tell us, who would be next, you're in the Know...

 Which country  will he conduct his next  "special military operation" against?

 

He calls the weapons imported into Ukraine from outside and used against his dictatorial country an "escalation"!

 

What do you call it when he is importing and using weapons from  Iran, North Korea China etc and troops from Nort Korea? Is that a de-escalation? (555)

 

 

 

 

[frank83628]

16 hours ago, candide said:

Now we know where this MAGA talking point comes from! 

Yes, the Russian envoy.... where else would Russian information come from, the white house?

[frank83628]

16 hours ago, transam said:

Sadly the truth has no effect on you, your hero invaded a sovereign nation for nothing, if they had succeeded, who would be next.

Come on, tell us, who would be next, you're in the Know........

There is thick, and then there is you