transam Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Increasing spending the schools and health services they rely on, raising the minimum wage… that kind of arrack? CH is an insider now, you should face the facts, if your lot told the electorate what they were going to do FIRST, they would not have been voted in, a bunch of crooks. But as expected, CH will defend Labour, what ever they do........... I wait for a good larf on your next Labour cover-up...............😂
brewsterbudgen Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 20 minutes ago, RayC said: Talking of broken promises, maybe we could re-run the Brexit referendum in that case. The petition to revoke Article 50 and rejoin the EU got over 6 million signatures. 2
transam Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Nooo the people have spoken, the result must be lived with. Unless of course it’s unfinished business’ or a Labour victory at a General Election, then it l’s gloves off. They 'spoke' alright, not knowing what the dodgy Labour Party were really going to do, the Labour keeping it quiet, shafting them, just blinding the gullible with BS........😬 1 1
Nick Carter icp Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: The petition to revoke Article 50 and rejoin the EU got over 6 million signatures. Less than 10 % of the population 1
transam Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, champers said: Daily Fail, right-wing Tory comic. And.............? 🤔
mokwit Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: The petition to revoke Article 50 and rejoin the EU got over 6 million signatures. The call for a new election is because there has never been such a mismatch between pre election promises and what happened after a Government took power since Germany post 1933 elections*. *probably also some African kleptocrats with pre election promises to distribute the country's natural resources wealth - ooh, forgot Blair. Edited 2 hours ago by mokwit 2
Nick Carter icp Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, champers said: Daily Fail, right-wing Tory comic. Have the story from a different news source then : https://harrowonline.org/2024/11/24/petition-calling-for-another-general-election-nears-1-million-signatures/
brewsterbudgen Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Less than 10 % of the population Indeed. Just like this silly petition, which will rightly be ignored. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said: Indeed. Just like this silly petition, which will rightly be ignored. They would need over 50 % of the vote to win a referendum , could win the next election with 30 % of the vote
James105 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 25 minutes ago, RayC said: Talking of broken promises, maybe we could re-run the Brexit referendum in that case. If that was in the Labour manifesto and people voted for it then yes, there could and should be another referendum, as that is how the last one was granted. Was it in their manifesto? 1
James105 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Chivas said: Comedy gold beyond belief 14 years of catastrophic looting of the treasury by the Tories that has tripled the national debt yet when the adults are put in charge and have to make very tough decisions to start putting it right the little Tory roasters start squealing Why dont you absolute cretins start with Harding who managed to spaff £37 Billion on track and trace yet Germany with a similar population spent just £1 Billion Get that oaf Johnson for starters in the witness box with electric probes on his nuts every time the lie detecter pings off £400bn was lost on covid lockdowns. Labour wanted harder and longer lockdowns so the bill would very likely have been much, much higher. Yes the Tories were awful hence they are no longer in government, but as awful as they were they are nowhere near as bad as these incompetent clowns in government now.
Keep Right Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Is always sad to see the left wing globalist socialists take over a government. This happened under old sleepy Biden also. But like the U.S., the good people of Britain should rise up and throw these socialists out on their ear. Make Britain Great Again. 1 1
champers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, transam said: And.............? 🤔 Read the OP.
mokwit Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, James105 said: £400bn was lost on covid lockdowns. Labour wanted harder and longer lockdowns so the bill would very likely have been much, much higher. Yes the Tories were awful hence they are no longer in government, but as awful as they were they are nowhere near as bad as these incompetent clowns in government now. Basically we swapped a bunch of Public Schoolboys who thought government was a wizard wheeze for the Polytechnic Students Union who don't understand SU ideology is not the real world. 1
champers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Keep Right said: Is always sad to see the left wing globalist socialists take over a government. This happened under old sleepy Biden also. But like the U.S., the good people of Britain should rise up and throw these socialists out on their ear. Make Britain Great Again. Corbyn was seen off because of his far-left policies. Whatever Starmer's policies are they are not that.
mokwit Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, champers said: Corbyn was seen off because of his far-left policies. Whatever Starmer's policies are they are not that. Yeah, it's kinda like the difference between Trotskyism and Stalinism, or Starmerism as it will come to be called. 1 1
brewsterbudgen Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, mokwit said: Yeah, it's kinda like the difference between Trotskyism and Stalinism, or Starmerism as it will come to be called. People seem to forget we recently had a buffoon like Boris Johnson and then a 'lettuce' running the country! The people will get a chance to vote out Labour in 2028/9. I'm willing to bet, they'll get another term. 1
champers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, mokwit said: Basically we swapped a bunch of Public Schoolboys who thought government was a wizard wheeze for the Polytechnic Students Union who don't understand SU ideology is not the real world. Starmer and Reeves both got Oxford degrees. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, James105 said: If that was in the Labour manifesto and people voted for it then yes, there could and should be another referendum, as that is how the last one was granted. Was it in their manifesto? The previous agreement just prior to the referendum, that there would just be ONE referendum and no more , One referendum and the result stands, would overrule any Labour attempt to over turn the referendum 1
RayC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: No, that would be way off topic and besides , the Government didn't break any promises . The promise was that there would be just one referendum , would you want Labour to also break that promise and have another referendum ? I'm being mischievous in pointing out the irony that some of those dissatisfied with this year's GE result are employing the same justification i.e. broken promises for a re-run as some of those who were dissatisfied with the outcome of the Brexit referendum. Where, when and by whom was a promise made before the Brexit referendum that there would be no second referendum? May ruled out a second referendum after the result not before. Maybe Cameron's government didn't break any promises wrt Brexit but the Leave Campaign certainly did http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/why_vote_leave.html
mokwit Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: The previous agreement just prior to the referendum, that there would just be ONE referendum and no more , One referendum and the result stands, would overrule any Labour attempt to over turn the referendum They are clearly moving towards "rejoining the common market"
James105 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, mokwit said: Yeah, it's kinda like the difference between Trotskyism and Stalinism, or Starmerism as it will come to be called. I think Corbynism was socialism with good intentions, but this... This is something very different. I don't think Corbyn would have partnered with BlackRock in the same week that IHT for farmers was introduced (when BlackRock have been buying up farmland) or escalating the Ukraine conflict when BlackRock already have the contracts for rebuilding Ukraine and supplying weapons. There is some seriously dirty money involved in Starmerism. Surprised the leftists are still so enthused about it considering how anti big business they claim to be. Anyway, that reminds me, maybe its time to purchase some BlackRock shares as there is another 4.5 years of this to go. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, RayC said: I'm being mischievous in pointing out the irony that some of those dissatisfied with this year's GE result are employing the same justification i.e. broken promises for a re-run as some of those who were dissatisfied with the outcome of the Brexit referendum. Where, when and by whom was a promise made before the Brexit referendum that there would be no second referendum? May ruled out a second referendum after the result not before. Maybe Cameron's government didn't break any promises wrt Brexit but the Leave Campaign certainly did http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/why_vote_leave.html www.voteleavetakecontrol.org doesn’t support a secure connection Attackers can see and change information you send or receive from the site. It's safest to visit this site later if you're using a public network. There is less risk from a trusted network, like your home or work Wi-Fi. You might also contact the site owner and suggest they upgrade to HTTPS. Learn more about this warning
The Cyclist Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Less than 10 % of the population By the time this closes on 20 May https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143 We might have a true number of the UK population 😀😀 1.8 million already Edited 2 hours ago by The Cyclist
Chomper Higgot Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Labour taking more care of old people Household energy bills will jump by £21 from January in a fresh blow for millions of pensioners who face the loss of winter fuel payments https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/22/energy-price-cap-rises-as-starmer-pulls-winter-fuel-payment/ https://archive.ph/YGYaG The same pensioners who are benefiting from the triple lock.
Nick Carter icp Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, mokwit said: They are clearly moving towards "rejoining the common market" Starmer has stated that he doesn't want to rejoin the single market
Chomper Higgot Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 38 minutes ago, transam said: CH is an insider now, you should face the facts, if your lot told the electorate what they were going to do FIRST, they would not have been voted in, a bunch of crooks. But as expected, CH will defend Labour, what ever they do........... I wait for a good larf on your next Labour cover-up...............😂 Crooks? Making stuff up again Transam. 1
The Cyclist Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Nick Carter icp said: Starmer has stated that he doesn't want to rejoin the single market And he is not lying. He wants back into the EU
mokwit Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Nick Carter icp said: Starmer has stated that he doesn't want to rejoin the single market He also stated he would take care of OAP's and support Britians farmers.
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