Calls for a New Election Surge Amidst Labour's Challenges

[Chomper Higgot]

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Have the story from a different news source then :

 

https://harrowonline.org/2024/11/24/petition-calling-for-another-general-election-nears-1-million-signatures/

Nearly one million people who don’t understand Parliament doesn’t call elections.

 

That’s the PM’s job.

[Chomper Higgot]

33 minutes ago, mokwit said:

The call for a new election is because there has never been such a mismatch between pre election promises and what happened after a Government took power since Germany post 1933 elections*.

 

*probably also some African kleptocrats with pre election promises to distribute the country's natural resources wealth - ooh, forgot Blair.

congratulations you get the thread’s Godwing gong.

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The same pensioners who are benefiting from the triple lock.

 

 

And you still maintain they are looking after old people?

"Newly published government analysis has found that the measure could force 100,000 pensioners in England and Wales into relative fuel poverty this year. The analysis was published earlier this week just as temperatures plunged and parts of the UK experienced their first snowfall of the year."

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The previous agreement just prior to the referendum, that there would just be ONE referendum and no more , One referendum and the result stands, would overrule any Labour attempt to over turn the referendum 

Unless of course it was ‘unfinished business’.

[mokwit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

congratulations you get the thread’s Godwing gong.

 

Oh, and you have never mentioned Nazis on this board?

 

I felt it was appropriate as AH is apparently on record as saying after the election "If they knew what we really had planned they would never have voted for us".  Kinda rings true as comparable, no?

 

I can't think of any from Africa off the top of my head and Blair lied by omission WRT to his mass immigration/multiculturalism plan.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nearly one million people who don’t understand Parliament doesn’t call elections.

 

That’s the PM’s job.

 

   The people are calling for the subject to be discussed in Parliament , that is what the vote is for , for the subject to be discussed . 

  Starmer could call for another election or he could be removed from his position by his comrades in power by a vote of no confidence 

[mokwit]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The people are calling for the subject to be discussed in Parliament , that is what the vote is for , for the subject to be discussed . 

  Starmer could call for another election or he could be removed from his position by his comrades in power by a vote of no confidence 

I think a gunpowder plot as a means of removal is almost justified.

Edited 2 hours ago by mokwit

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Unless of course it was ‘unfinished business’.

 

   The business was finished when the referendum  voting polls were closed .

[RayC]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

They are clearly moving towards "rejoining the common market"

 

We can but hope that is the case.

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

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That rather says it all about the 'Vote Leave' Campaign😂

 

Here's the headings from that Vote Leave link.

 

We will be able to save £350 million a week: (We haven't)

 

We'll be in charge of our own borders: (In theory perhaps)

 

We can control immigration: (I'll just leave that there)

 

We'll be free to trade with the whole world: (That rather depends on the rest of the world. The signs, to date, aren't great)

 

We can make our own laws: (Not if we want to trade with the rest of the world we can't)

 

Throw in a few blatant lies e.g. Turkey will join the EU; the European Court determines our tax laws, and I'd say that there were plenty of broken promises and more.

 

 

[JonnyF]

What does 'Labour" actually mean?

 

Did the fools know what they were voting for?

 

Funny how the Remoaners have changed their tune. Suddenly a second vote is off the table. 

 

Leftist hypocrisy once again.

[RayC]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The business was finished when the referendum  voting polls were closed .

 

Rather like the General Election which returned a Labour government earlier this year then.

[mokwit]

Just now, RayC said:

We can control immigration: (I'll just leave that there)

The issue with the EU on immigration is you could have Mad Merkel giving EU citizenship to all and sundry and after that they would legally be able to head to the more attractive UK where every group has its own "Little home country" due to Blair.

 

IMO if it were not for Merkels actions the vote would have been the other way, IMO she swung it for the Brexit vote.

[The Cyclist]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

What does 'Labour" actually mean?

 

Bought and paid for by Lord Alli, I think

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

We can but hope that is the case.

 

That rather says it all about the 'Vote Leave' Campaign😂

 

Here's the headings from that Vote Leave link.

 

We will be able to save £350 million a week: (We haven't)

 

We'll be in charge of our own borders: (In theory perhaps)

 

We can control immigration: (I'll just leave that there)

 

We'll be free to trade with the whole world: (That rather depends on the rest of the world. The signs, to date, aren't great)

 

We can make our own laws: (Not if we want to trade with the rest of the world we can't)

 

Throw in a few blatant lies e.g. Turkey will join the EU; the European Court determines our tax laws, and I'd say that there were plenty of broken promises and more.

 

 

 

   You could start a thread about it , or just refresh one on the hundreds of threads already about it ?

[RayC]

Just now, JonnyF said:

What does 'Labour" actually mean?

 

Did the fools know what they were voting for?

 

Funny how the Remoaners have changed their tune. Suddenly a second vote is off the table. 

 

Leftist hypocrisy once again.

 

Hypocrisy doesn't appear to be the sole preserve of the Left given the call to rerun the General Election from those on the Right simply because they don't like the result.

[James105]

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The same pensioners who are benefiting from the triple lock.

 

 

 

Not until next April though eh?  According to Labours own study there will be at least 4000 pensioners who will not survive this winter due to the removal by Labour of the Winter fuel allowance to benefit from this policy that the Tories introduced.  

Edited 1 hour ago by James105

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Rather like the General Election which returned a Labour government earlier this year then.

 

   The UK has regular general elections through, every few years , the UK just has one Referendum .

[RayC]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

The issue with the EU on immigration is you could have Mad Merkel giving EU citizenship to all and sundry and after that they would legally be able to head to the more attractive UK where every group has its own "Little home country" due to Blair.

 

IMO if it were not for Merkels actions the vote would have been the other way, IMO she swung it for the Brexit vote.

 

I'm not sure that the result would have been any different but Merkel's actions wrt illegal migration - well intentional as they might have been - have had catastrophic consequences for all of Europe.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Hypocrisy doesn't appear to be the sole preserve of the Left given the call to rerun the General Election from those on the Right simply because they don't like the result.

 

  What makes you say that its the Right wing who want Starmer replaced ? Labour supporters could also be displeased with his performance as PM .

   People do not want a new election because of the result , its just people are displeased with Starmers policies

[mokwit]

Just now, RayC said:

 

I'm not sure that the result would have been any different but Merkel's actions wrt illegal migration - well intentional as they might have been - have had catastrophic consequences for all of Europe.

She was told that and retorted that those who objected had "coldness in their hearts". there are people who are dead who would otherwise be alive and women dealing with the aftermath of rape who otherwise wouldn't have been due to her actions.

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Oh, and you have never mentioned Nazis on this board?

 

I felt it was appropriate as AH is apparently on record as saying after the election "If they knew what we really had planned they would never have voted for us".  Kinda rings true as comparable, no?

 

I can't think of any from Africa off the top of my head and Blair lied by omission WRT to his mass immigration/multiculturalism plan.

Godwin with Bar.

[Summerinsiam]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a testament to the power of the rightwing press.

 

 

Correct. The fact that it is taken from the Daily Mail tells you all you need to know. There is no news here. Labour will govern for the next five years as mandated by the constitution, and for a second term if they can somehow turn around the fortunes of the country, and repair the damage caused by years of Tory gross incompetence and misrule. Nobody, including them, ever said it would be easy.

[Nick Carter icp]

11 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

We can but hope that is the case.

That rather says it all about the 'Vote Leave' Campaign😂

 

 

   What does that say about "Leavers"

You posted a link which my computer advised me NOT to open and so I didn't open the link .

   What does that say about me ?

I don't open suspected dodgy links ?

[BritManToo]

15 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

Bought and paid for by Lord Alli, I think

Lord Waheed is actually a great guy, I used to work for him and his boyfriend, Charlie Parsons. They used to throw the wildest and most amazing Xmas parties.

Edited 1 hour ago by BritManToo

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

What does 'Labour" actually mean?

 

Did the fools know what they were voting for?

 

Funny how the Remoaners have changed their tune. Suddenly a second vote is off the table. 

 

Leftist hypocrisy once again.

A second vote isn’t on the table. 
 

Even if the low information rightwingers are baying for it.
 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The UK has regular general elections through, every few years , the UK just has one Referendum .

There’s been more than one referendum, they can be called at any time and are not legally binding.

[mokwit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s been more than one referendum, they can be called at any time and are not legally binding.

The manifesto for this one specifically delineated that the result would be binding.

[Chomper Higgot]

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The business was finished when the referendum  voting polls were closed .

Yep, no second election.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, mokwit said:

The manifesto for this one specifically delineated that the result would be binding.

That’s not the definition of legally binding.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yep, no second election.

 

   There will be another general election , the only thing to decide on is when it will be .

   Just need to choose the date