Pink ID Card has your Tax ID number

[CharlieH]

 

Let me start this off with the usual caveat that situations and regions etc may vary as is the norm with Thailand. Rarely is there a "one size fit all"

 

So, sorting out Tax ID today for the upcoming probable tax implications and in direct response to the request from Kasikorn Bank to provide Tax ID. I visited a Thai accountant today, and within s very short space of time my official tax id was sorted. It is exact;ly the same number on my Pink ID card or in my Yellow tabien bahn.

 

Nice to know of yet another use for these often decried items.

 

 

[Mutt Daeng]

I also went and got a TIN today and guess what? It's not the same number on my Pink ID card/YTB.

Edited 20 hours ago by Mutt Daeng

[KannikaP]

3 minutes ago, Mutt Daeng said:

I also went and got a TIN today and guess what? It's not the same number on my Pink ID card/YTB.

Maybe because you did not tell the Taxman that you already had a Pink Card.

[Mutt Daeng]

Just now, KannikaP said:

Maybe because you did not tell the Taxman that you already had a Pink Card.

No. I presented my Pink ID card and YTB when I applied for the TIN.

[KannikaP]

1 minute ago, Mutt Daeng said:

No. I presented my Pink ID card and YTB when I applied for the TIN.

I got my TIN before I applied for Pink Card. Numbers are the same.

[Mutt Daeng]

2 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I got my TIN before I applied for Pink Card. Numbers are the same.

That may be so, but my numbers are different.

[CharlieH]

8 minutes ago, Mutt Daeng said:

I also went and got a TIN today and guess what? It's not the same number on my Pink ID card/YTB.

 

Good job I stated the caveat on the OP then wasnt it.😀

[Crossy]

I got my TIN millennia ago, followed by my Social Security number, then my pink ID.

 

All had different numbers of course, the systems just aren't fully integrated yet.

 

When I went to Social Security to set up my continuing to pay into the system when I stopped work, the nice ladies there adjusted my SS account to use my pink ID number.

 

The TIN can stay separate until someone asks me to change it.

 

The numbers "should" all be the same, just like it is for Thais, but foreigner IDs are such a relatively new thing that mix-n-match is the rule of the day.

[Mutt Daeng]

3 minutes ago, Crossy said:

I got my TIN millennia ago, followed by my Social Security number, then my pink ID.

 

All had different numbers of course, the systems just aren't fully integrated yet.

 

When I went to Social Security to set up my continuing to pay into the system when I stopped work, the nice ladies there adjusted my SS account to use my pink ID number.

 

The TIN can stay separate until someone asks me to change it.

Thanks Crossy. Good to know It's not just me!

[samtam]

25 minutes ago, Mutt Daeng said:

I also went and got a TIN today and guess what? It's not the same number on my Pink ID card/YTB.

 

6 minutes ago, Mutt Daeng said:

Thanks Crossy. Good to know It's not just me!

 

I will be obtaining my TIN to comply with the TRD's interpretation on the requirement to file, (which they have confirmed, in my district), and they have advised that my pink ID 13 digit number will NOT be my TIN. I have to apply for a TIN by completing a Lor.Por.10.1 Again, this is from my district tax office, so circumstances may, and obviously do vary.

My district tax office is Sathorn, in Bangkok. Based on others' experience in different offices, I thought my pink ID would be my TIN, but Sathorn RD say it will start with "1".

A tangled web being woven very quickly. 

[jayboy]

14 minutes ago, Crossy said:

I got my TIN millennia ago, followed by my Social Security number, then my pink ID.

 

All had different numbers of course, the systems just aren't fully integrated yet.

 

When I went to Social Security to set up my continuing to pay into the system when I stopped work, the nice ladies there adjusted my SS account to use my pink ID number.

 

The TIN can stay separate until someone asks me to change it.

 

The numbers "should" all be the same, just like it is for Thais, but foreigner IDs are such a relatively new thing that mix-n-match is the rule of the day.

 

I believe the system at the Ministry of Interior changed quite a few years ago so that, at least in my case, after a long gap after I finished employment my current TIN was issued with the number the same as on my Pink ID. In short my old TIN was no longer operative.I would be interested to know when the Ministry of Interior rejigged the system.

[Mutt Daeng]

6 minutes ago, samtam said:

 

 

I will be obtaining my TIN to comply with the TRD's interpretation on the requirement to file, (which they have confirmed, in my district), and they have advised that my pink ID 13 digit number will NOT be my TIN. I have to apply for a TIN by completing a Lor.Por.10.1 Again, this is from my district tax office, so circumstances may, and obviously do vary.

My district tax office is Sathorn, in Bangkok. Based on others' experience in different offices, I thought my pink ID would be my TIN, but Sathorn RD say it will start with "1".

A tangled web being woven very quickly. 

I submitted the Lor.Por.10.1 when I applied today. My TIN begins with a 0 (zero) and my Pink ID begins with a 6.

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

 

Let me start this off with the usual caveat that situations and regions etc may vary as is the norm with Thailand. Rarely is there a "one size fit all"

 

So, sorting out Tax ID today for the upcoming probable tax implications and in direct response to the request from Kasikorn Bank to provide Tax ID. I visited a Thai accountant today, and within s very short space of time my official tax id was sorted. It is exact;ly the same number on my Pink ID card or in my Yellow tabien bahn.

 

Nice to know of yet another use for these often decried items.

 

 

I tried that number (my pink ID) as a tax number with BKB and not acceptable down in Trang... what area are you in

Edited 19 hours ago by Mavideol

[samtam]

11 minutes ago, Mutt Daeng said:

I submitted the Lor.Por.10.1 when I applied today. My TIN begins with a 0 (zero) and my Pink ID begins with a 6.

 

Maybe the first digit identifies the district tax office; I presume yours is not Sathorn district. My pink card begins with a 6, but I am informed the TIN will begin with a "1". I was also informed that a TIN is issued straight away, (by and at the office I am applying). 

[Mutt Daeng]

2 minutes ago, samtam said:

 

Maybe the first digit identifies the district tax office; I presume yours is not Sathorn district. My pink card begins with a 6, but I am informed the TIN will begin with a "1". I was also informed that a TIN is issued straight away, (by and at the office I am applying). 

My TIN was issued straight away. Took about 20 minutes in all.

[samtam]

1 hour ago, Mutt Daeng said:

My TIN was issued straight away. Took about 20 minutes in all.

 

Good to hear. I'm getting a similar response through my inquiries at my RD.

[Thingamabob]

13 hours ago, CharlieH said:

 

Let me start this off with the usual caveat that situations and regions etc may vary as is the norm with Thailand. Rarely is there a "one size fit all"

 

So, sorting out Tax ID today for the upcoming probable tax implications and in direct response to the request from Kasikorn Bank to provide Tax ID. I visited a Thai accountant today, and within s very short space of time my official tax id was sorted. It is exact;ly the same number on my Pink ID card or in my Yellow tabien bahn.

 

Nice to know of yet another use for these often decried items.

 

 

...well known already. Your point is. ?

[arick]

I don't know what you guys are talking about but if for an ID number starts with 6 Tax ID number start with 099

Edited 7 hours ago by arick

[huyuli]

Does anyone have a TIN that is a ten digit number starting with 1? Trying to confirm that mine is, thanks.

[vukovar77]

I have a TIN and a Pink ID. Numbers are not the same.

[flexomike]

Went to a Rayong tax office with my pink ID card and they filled out some paperwork for me that I had to sign and informed me that my pink card would be my tax number. I guess we will find out at tax time

 

[Lamphen]

TIT 🙂 I have also different numbers on my pink ID and TIN card.

[Crossy]

2 hours ago, huyuli said:

Does anyone have a TIN that is a ten digit number starting with 1? Trying to confirm that mine is, thanks.

 

Mine is 13 digits in the same format as the Thai ID number, starts with a 0 (zero).

[maxcorrigan]

If understand correctly this TIN number can be obtained from your bank, is that correct? and does anyone know where the local tax office in Satahip/Pattaya thanks for any help provided!

[KhunBENQ]

Just went over my documents.

Since 2013 I have a "yellow book" and "pink card".

ID starting with "6" as usual for foreigners without permanent residency.

 

In 2015 and 2016 I applied for refund of tax on interest.

Both approved and paid via check.

The corresponding letters both refer to my ID (6*).

The only other number on the letters is the check number.

 

Same for my wife, Thai national ID.

[KhunBENQ]

This is the approval for tax refund for 2015 (approved 22 Feb 2016)

Had to pixelate heavily

(click to see full size)

Edited 2 hours ago by KhunBENQ

[Hotrats]

I have a TIN and a Pink ID. Numbers are not the same.

[CallumWK]

18 hours ago, Crossy said:

The TIN can stay separate until someone asks me to change it.

 

The numbers "should" all be the same, just like it is for Thais, but foreigner IDs are such a relatively new thing that mix-n-match is the rule of the day.

 

I got my TIN after I had my pink card for several years already, and they carry different numbers.

I just forwarded my TIN to my EU bank because they asked for it.

So maybe a good time to ask revenue office if they can change it to the same as pink card, because then the bank will have a useless TIN  🙂 

[spidermike007]

So does this mean we can simply provide our bank with this tax ID number and that we are not required to fill out the necessary tax forms? 

[OJAS]

19 hours ago, Mutt Daeng said:

I also went and got a TIN today and guess what? It's not the same number on my Pink ID card/YTB.

 

5 hours ago, vukovar77 said:

I have a TIN and a Pink ID. Numbers are not the same.

 

3 hours ago, Lamphen said:

TIT 🙂 I have also different numbers on my pink ID and TIN card.

 

1 hour ago, Hotrats said:

I have a TIN and a Pink ID. Numbers are not the same.

 

And presumably your COVID vaccination certificates contain a 13-digit ID number which is different from those on your pink ID and TIN cards!😆