Russia’s economy is doomed

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

But make no mistake: my generation has been so strong it broke the backbone of the Soviet Union and sent it straight to the dustbin of history.

And the current NATO generations will break the backbone of Putin's Russia and send it to where his criminal regime belongs: yes, you guess it right, the dustbin of history.

my generation has been so strong it broke the backbone of the Soviet Union

 

Really? Do tell us which conflict NATO was directly involved in against Russia- no need to answer, as we know it was NONE, that's right NONE.

 

Anyway, that was done by a previous generation that didn't believe in more than 2 genders, didn't believe that driving their car was going to end the world, and were not a bunch of mummy's boys that preferred sticking drugs up their noses and sitting in mummy's basement looking at porn to joining the military.

 

Present generation are more likely to be dressing like a girl than warriors. IMO.

 

The west has got soft and weak. Without technology and nuclear weapons it would be a push over.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

my generation has been so strong it broke the backbone of the Soviet Union

 

Really? Do tell us which conflict NATO was directly involved in against Russia- no need to answer, as we know it was NONE, that's right NONE.

 

Anyway, that was done by a previous generation that didn't believe in more than 2 genders, didn't believe that driving their car was going to end the world, and were not a bunch of mummy's boys that preferred sticking drugs up their noses and sitting in mummy's basement looking at porn to joining the military.

 

Present generation are more likely to be dressing like a girl than warriors. IMO.

 

The west has got soft and weak. Without technology and nuclear weapons it would be a push over.

To the poster that gave my post a laugh, yes the west's youths are a laugh now. Sad mummy's boys that they are. Military has to reject many that do apply for being too fat.

 

https://phys.org/news/2010-10-military-applicants-denied-due-obesity.html

At a time when American military forces are stretched thin overseas, a growing number of potential recruits are too fat to enlist, according to an analysis by Cornell economists.

In the past half-century, the number of women of military age who exceed the U.S. Army's enlistment standards for weight-for-height and body fat percentage has more than tripled. For military-age men, the figure has more than doubled.

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The Russians are not fighting NATO.

X the billions of $ worth of weapons provided by NATO nations.

 

Russia has zero chance of beating NATO.

At least you got that right ( probably ), though if NATO per se gets involved it's nuclear winter, so best they don't even try.

Russia has shown the world their military is weak.

[Mike_Hunt]

7 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

And yet, NATO is all in a panic about the possibility of Russia invading a NATO country 

Both of us know Russia is a paper tiger.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

my generation has been so strong it broke the backbone of the Soviet Union

 

Really? Do tell us which conflict NATO was directly involved in against Russia- no need to answer, as we know it was NONE, that's right NONE.

 

Anyway, that was done by a previous generation that didn't believe in more than 2 genders, didn't believe that driving their car was going to end the world, and were not a bunch of mummy's boys that preferred sticking drugs up their noses and sitting in mummy's basement looking at porn to joining the military.

 

Present generation are more likely to be dressing like a girl than warriors. IMO.

 

The west has got soft and weak. Without technology and nuclear weapons it would be a push over.

You've got repeating all the anti West Kremlin talking points down to a fine art. Vladimir thanks you.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Russia has shown the world their military is weak.

So what? They are still winning in the East.

[thaibeachlovers]

12 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Both of us know Russia is a paper tiger.

Some of us know that Putin will not invade any NATO country, so that's irrelevant.

[stevenl]

This thread is about the Russian economy. Can we get back on topic please.

[Gweiloman]

11 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

 

Indeed. You may have finally understood at least one thing: In NATO we are peace loving people. That's why the pretense that Russia invaded Ukraine to defend itself from NATO is laughable.

 

But there is something you Russian trolls will never understand: most of us, in NATO, have fulfilling lives. We are free to pursue our interests. We are free to travel, we are free to trade, we are not treated as outcasts outside of our country, and as slaves and cannon fodder in our own one.

Unlike the majority of the Russian population, condemned to live miserable lives in quasi-medieval conditions, we don't see death on the battlefield as an appealing alternative to life.

 

But make no mistake: my generation has been so strong it broke the backbone of the Soviet Union and sent it straight to the dustbin of history.

And the current NATO generations will break the backbone of Putin's Russia and send it to where his criminal regime belongs: yes, you guess it right, the dustbin of history.

 

In NATO we are peace loving people.

 

 Thanks for the laugh.

 

Russian trolls

Who and what is a Russian troll? It seems like anyone who doesn’t agree with the western narrative is a Russian troll. In that case, the majority of the world’s population are Russian trolls. 
 

As for the rest of your post, it seems like you’ve really drank the kool-aid. I’ve been to Russia numerous times and I don’t see the conditions you described. Much like some who criticises China but have never been, you should go (to Russia) and take a look for yourself and not blindly believe what you read in the media.

 

 

 

[Gweiloman]

59 minutes ago, stevenl said:

This thread is about the Russian economy. Can we get back on topic please.

Russia’s economy is chugging along as usual. According to the World Bank, a western backed institution I might add, Russia’s economy is expected to outperform the G7’s.

 

The addition of Indonesia, 4th most populous country in the world, as a full member into BRICS will further strengthen the trade relations among all the BRICS countries and reduce USD trades. Ukraine, by stopping gas flows from Russia (under instructions from a major western nation no doubt), Europe will continue to pay high prices for its energy, leading to continued high inflation and further deterioration of living standards. China and India will benefit greatly, further accelerating the decline of the west.

 

That’s why even the most avid of Russian haters have nothing to post on this thread…

[transam]

13 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

You reply to practically every post I make so I assume you are a follower/subscriber. You shouldn’t take any notice of where I am at any point in time but you did ask if I was planning on settling down there so anyone that still has a functioning brain and memory would be able to recall such information.

 

Ignorance + dementia. You’re onto a real winner here…

Really, now I would have thought a bloke from the West supporting a murdering tyrant is the one with mental issues, eh chap............🤪

[Gweiloman]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

Really, now I would have thought a bloke from the West supporting a murdering tyrant is the one with mental issues, eh chap............🤪

Have you seen your own avatar? Enough said…

[transam]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Have you seen your own avatar? Enough said…

James Taylor, what's wrong with the singer........

 

https://cavehollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/33R-JamesTaylor-TheFarm-Dec13_1969_2x3_300dpi-1.jpg

You have forgotten that much Western stuff......Comrade........

 

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSStS_6Oe8gZNhu-R0PPA8jyMOv-DKskmeguZ-sBZMJ6m2tOorO93Gebjg&s

[3NUMBAS]

Today’s Russia is a far cry from the stable and prosperous nation that he once promised to create. Instead, it is an isolated country embroiled in war and plagued by systemic decay.

[3NUMBAS]

Putin will take em back to the stone age and recovery won’t be possible as it’s a Paria like the rest of the Paris’s 

[3NUMBAS]

Demographers warn that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has accelerated its long-term population decline.

[3NUMBAS]

Economists highlight how the country’s dependence on oil — a classic “resource curse” — and its wartime economy have locked it into a trajectory of prolonged stagnation.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/9/2025 at 2:54 AM, AndreasHG said:

Indeed. You may have finally understood at least one thing: In NATO we are peace loving people. That's why the pretense that Russia invaded Ukraine to defend itself from NATO is laughable.

 

In NATO we are peace loving people.

 

I missed that first time, but thanks for the .

[TedG]

Russia's Central Bank raised its policy rate by 200 basis points to 21% in October 2024, as the soaring demand led by wage increases pushed inflation above the target. The annual inflation was at 9.5% as of late December last year, and the bank aims to reach 4% inflation by the end of 2026.

 

 

The citizens of Russia can look forward to 4% inflation by the end of 2026.   

The CPI in Jan 2022 was 209.2

The CPI in Nov 2024 was 269.3

 

The total inflation from Jan 2022 to Nov 2024 is 

 

269.3 - 209.2 =60.1        60.1/209.2 =0.287 or 28.7% inflation from Jan 2022 to Nov 2024.  Ouch.

 

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/consumer-price-index-cpi

[TedG]

On 1/8/2025 at 8:49 PM, Gweiloman said:

In NATO we are peace loving people.

 

 Thanks for the laugh.

 

Russian trolls

Who and what is a Russian troll? It seems like anyone who doesn’t agree with the western narrative is a Russian troll. In that case, the majority of the world’s population are Russian trolls. 
 

As for the rest of your post, it seems like you’ve really drank the kool-aid. I’ve been to Russia numerous times and I don’t see the conditions you described. Much like some who criticises China but have never been, you should go (to Russia) and take a look for yourself and not blindly believe what you read in the media.

 

 

 

Why would anyone want to visit Russia. 

 

Also, what is wrong with the Western narrative?

[Gweiloman]

13 hours ago, TedG said:

Why would anyone want to visit Russia. 

 

Also, what is wrong with the Western narrative?

I’ve never visited Chad nor would I want to. As a result, I know practically nothing about it and therefore don’t comment about it. On the other hand, some people comment about things they know nothing about. Unless one has been to Russia, one cannot comment about life and living conditions there. Places I have visited in Russia is anything but quasi medieval as one poster claims. Russia also has lots of wonderful historical sites and great architecture. St. Basil’s, Church of the Saviour on Blood, Peterhof, Hermitage Museum, Ekaterinburg Palace etc. I once attended a private concert in the Hall of Mirrors; an unforgettable experience.

 

As for what’s wrong with the western narrative, most of it are lies. Fine, if you like to be misinformed.

[Olmate]

Move to Pratumnak for the Russian experience you so desire, pearl before swine springs readily to mind! 

[TedG]

11 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

 

As for what’s wrong with the western narrative, most of it are lies. Fine, if you like to be misinformed.

such as?

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

As for what’s wrong with the western narrative, most of it are lies. Fine, if you like to be misinformed.

Agree.

[kwonitoy]

15 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I’ve never visited Chad nor would I want to. As a result, I know practically nothing about it and therefore don’t comment about it. On the other hand, some people comment about things they know nothing about. Unless one has been to Russia, one cannot comment about life and living conditions there. Places I have visited in Russia is anything but quasi medieval as one poster claims. Russia also has lots of wonderful historical sites and great architecture. St. Basil’s, Church of the Saviour on Blood, Peterhof, Hermitage Museum, Ekaterinburg Palace etc. I once attended a private concert in the Hall of Mirrors; an unforgettable experience.

 

As for what’s wrong with the western narrative, most of it are lies. Fine, if you like to be misinformed.

 

I've not been to russia,

But I've worked in the 80's in the Soviet Union in the far east when they were starting to modernize their oil industry. What I worked on eventually became Yukos.

My brother also worked in a different part of the oil patch and his experience was the same as mine.

It was an absolute shiiite hole.

Good places in russia, sure. But it's a very big country

 Most of it is an absolute bombed out looking hell hole

My experience is not shaped by your evil MSM but by what I saw and experienced and the people I worked with over the course of 2 years. 

The russians I worked with said it was a shiit hole and there experiences were horrifing. 

 

Big difference in being a tourist and living and working in a country

 

Much like Thailand or anywhere else.

[Gweiloman]

10 hours ago, TedG said:

such as?

For eg, that Russia is planning to invade Europe soon and at the same time, saying that the Russian army is almost wiped out, that the economy is doomed, that it has run out of arms and ammo etc. If the latter is true, the former cannot possibly happen.

[TedG]

6 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

For eg, that Russia is planning to invade Europe soon and at the same time, saying that the Russian army is almost wiped out, that the economy is doomed, that it has run out of arms and ammo etc. If the latter is true, the former cannot possibly happen.

If Russia had taken Ukraine, Putin would have set his sights on the Baltic states.   

[Gweiloman]

7 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

I've not been to russia,

But I've worked in the 80's in the Soviet Union in the far east when they were starting to modernize their oil industry. What I worked on eventually became Yukos.

My brother also worked in a different part of the oil patch and his experience was the same as mine.

It was an absolute shiiite hole.

Good places in russia, sure. But it's a very big country

 Most of it is an absolute bombed out looking hell hole

My experience is not shaped by your evil MSM but by what I saw and experienced and the people I worked with over the course of 2 years. 

The russians I worked with said it was a shiit hole and there experiences were horrifing. 

 

Big difference in being a tourist and living and working in a country

 

Much like Thailand or anywhere else.

In the 80’s, China was still one of the poorest countries in the world. I just came back from a 2 week holiday there. Sure, there are still rural areas like everywhere else in the world. But I doubt there is a more modern country elsewhere.

 

As for being a <deleted> hole, a lot depends on one’s wealth. Thailand is a <deleted> hole for some expats living in a room above Soi Bukhao but a paradise for another living in a pool villa. I would imagine that oil fields are generally <deleted> holes although I can’t say for sure as I’ve never been to one.

[Gweiloman]

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

If Russia had taken Ukraine, Putin would have set his sights on the Baltic states.   

Did Putin say so or is that another classic example of western narrative misinformation?

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

For eg, that Russia is planning to invade Europe soon and at the same time, saying that the Russian army is almost wiped out, that the economy is doomed, that it has run out of arms and ammo etc. If the latter is true, the former cannot possibly happen.

In western propaganda anything is possible, but one wonders about those that believe it.

 

If the Russians don't have any ammunition they can surely defeat NATO with those Chinese shovels.