I adopted 2 thai dogs and now I regret this decision.

[Gecko123]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I've adopted well over 20 dogs over the past 20 years. I have 12 right now. I don't regret adopting any of them. 

Forgive me, but I have to ask.

 

Are you saying you've taken in 20 stray dogs in the past 20 years?  That's a remarkable number of stray dogs. I live out in the countryside too, and even if I took in every single stray or even possibly stray dog I came across, I don't think I've encountered 20 in the past 20 years. Do you slam on the brakes when you pass stray dogs padding alongside the road?

 

Stray dogs are usually extremely leery of strangers, and it usually takes an extended period of time to get them to accept food much less allow themselves to be touched. What is the acculturation process like?

 

You said you had 12 dogs right now. Most of the time when a stray dog wanders into a moo ban the resident dogs don't exactly roll out the welcome mat, do they? More like, try to rip them a new you-know-what and chase it out of town, wouldn't you say?

 

I'm wondering if you haven't developed a reputation as the local patron saint of stray dogs and people aren't dumping all their unwanted dogs on your doorstep.

 

The problem I have in my area is stray cats which quickly accept food and are happy to start hanging around. On nocturnal bike rides out in the countryside I see them all over the place, and they can live without much human contact pretty easily. But they're feral to the bone, and almost always refuse to be kept indoors, and will tear your window screens to shreds if you try to domesticate them, and left outside all the time, they usually end up disappearing as mysteriously as they first appeared. Blood tests usually come back positive for either kitty leukemia, kitty aids, distemper, rabies or some other disease you never knew existed.

 

I applaud your canine outreach but the level of vet service in my area isn't that good, and I've been happy with my decision to not go down the animal welfare rabbit hole in Thailand.

[WDSmart]

1 hour ago, Gecko123 said:

Forgive me, but I have to ask.

 

Are you saying you've taken in 20 stray dogs in the past 20 years?  That's a remarkable number of stray dogs. I live out in the countryside too, and even if I took in every single stray or even possibly stray dog I came across, I don't think I've encountered 20 in the past 20 years. Do you slam on the brakes when you pass stray dogs padding alongside the road?

 

Stray dogs are usually extremely leery of strangers, and it usually takes an extended period of time to get them to accept food much less allow themselves to be touched. What is the acculturation process like?

 

You said you had 12 dogs right now. Most of the time when a stray dog wanders into a moo ban the resident dogs don't exactly roll out the welcome mat, do they? More like, try to rip them a new you-know-what and chase it out of town, wouldn't you say?

 

I'm wondering if you haven't developed a reputation as the local patron saint of stray dogs and people aren't dumping all their unwanted dogs on your doorstep.

 

The problem I have in my area is stray cats which quickly accept food and are happy to start hanging around. On nocturnal bike rides out in the countryside I see them all over the place, and they can live without much human contact pretty easily. But they're feral to the bone, and almost always refuse to be kept indoors, and will tear your window screens to shreds if you try to domesticate them, and left outside all the time, they usually end up disappearing as mysteriously as they first appeared. Blood tests usually come back positive for either kitty leukemia, kitty aids, distemper, rabies or some other disease you never knew existed.

 

I applaud your canine outreach but the level of vet service in my area isn't that good, and I've been happy with my decision to not go down the animal welfare rabbit hole in Thailand.

I live up on a mountain with no neighbors less than a couple hundred meters near me on either side, and those are Thais living in bamboo huts. All of my stray dogs were picked up on the road leading up the mountain from a small village at the base. I suspect Thais living off the mountain bring their unwanted dogs up here and dump them out. Some of them are with a litter of puppies or even puppies left on their own. And, yes, I do put on the brakes and try to pick up any stray dog I see. That only works some of the time. Most are afraid and run away, off into the jungle. I do carry some dry dog food in my truck, so leave them food. Sometimes, after I've done this with the same dog (who usually stays in the same place, probably waiting for his owner to come back for him) a couple of times, they will trust me enough to let me load them in my truck and take them back to my property. There, I unload them and introduce them to my other dogs, who sniff them up and down, but after that, usually leave them alone and eventually even make friends with them.

So, that's how I have come to have so many dogs. 

[Ben Zioner]

On 12/2/2024 at 6:51 PM, advancebooking said:

Yesterday I was really pissed as they chewed up and pulled out 5 trees that I had planted.

I think they wanted to show you that you planted those trees too close to each other. Clever dogs, keep them.

[ujayujay]

It seems that you want to have dogs, but you have no idea how to train them. Your dogs are bored, so they tear everything apart because you don't look after them enough... just feeding them twice a day isn't enough. I adopted a dingo puppy from a dog shelter 3 years ago and he has learned to behave outside the gate in the village. First try the 5 basic commands: sit, come, no, seek, fetch.....and do it over and over again! My Dingo Lady can go in and out when he wants, but that takes a strong hand and patience! I know what I'm talking about.

[ujayujay]

On 12/2/2024 at 7:12 PM, blaze master said:

 

I think it was an extremely foolish idea in the first place. So that's the reason.

 

You made a decision you were woefully unprepared for. Also I hate thai soi dogs yes. They are dirty disgusting disease spreading problems. 

Think, Soi Dogs also dont like you

[ujayujay]

On 12/2/2024 at 7:20 PM, richard_smith237 said:

Are you going to pay for compensation if it bites a kid ???

 

I know that's somewhat of a divisive question, however, you have taken the dogs under your control and that is something I think any owner should be concerned with.

 

 

Always the same stupid arguments when it comes to dogs. I only offer compensation if my dog bites someone outside of my property and that depends on the situation. There are enough stupid people who threaten with a stick as a precaution and wave it in front of their nose, then my dog bites and there is no compensation... My property is fenced in and has warning signs. No one has any business inside the property and it is their own fault if my dog does its job.

[richard_smith237]

32 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

On 12/2/2024 at 7:20 PM, richard_smith237 said:

Are you going to pay for compensation if it bites a kid ???

 

I know that's somewhat of a divisive question, however, you have taken the dogs under your control and that is something I think any owner should be concerned with.

 

 

Always the same stupid arguments when it comes to dogs. I only offer compensation if my dog bites someone outside of my property and that depends on the situation. There are enough stupid people who threaten with a stick as a precaution and wave it in front of their nose, then my dog bites and there is no compensation... My property is fenced in and has warning signs. No one has any business inside the property and it is their own fault if my dog does its job.

 

So, you train your dog to attack people...     nice...   I hope there are no kids in the neighbourhood who attempt to retrieve an errant ball...   your trained 'mauler' will deal with them.... 

 

 

[JTXR]

Yes, it was a mistake.  Like all dogs, soi dogs here are imprinted and habituated in the first few months of life.  Psychologically they can be a total mess, and they can't be trained out of it.  

You might think of doing what Thais do:  take them to a temple and leave them.  Donate something to the temple for their upkeep.  The humane thing would be euthanasia, but you won't find a Thai vet who will do that.

[cardinalblue]

On 12/2/2024 at 7:46 PM, blaze master said:

 

Dead wrong. I'm late 40s been married 17 years. No need to mention then you go on to memention. You can't make this stuff up. Gold jerry gold.

 

You're just angry someone is telling you like it is. Not my fault you keep making bad choices. 

 

 

Just because you are married doesn’t mean you have love in your Life…17 years? Should I be impressed? Late 40s and soon hitting 60 if you are lucky…with age comes plenty of health problems chronic and acute…your good years are in your rear view mirror…what’s next? The senior golf tour?

 

Since no mention of kids….

 

your best bet is get a dog…

[oldestswinger]

On 12/2/2024 at 3:26 PM, msbkk said:

It is quite common for younger dogs to chew on all kind of things. It is the responsibility of the owner to carefully teach the dogs how to behave. My previous wife bought a young dog and we had the same problem for quite a while. You have to give the dogs some chewing toys and wooden bones to chew on. This is important. I did exactly that and the chewing on other items stopped

after a while. 

Exactly. A bit like babies with their teething problems. They get over it quite quickly.

[Bundooman]

On 12/2/2024 at 7:34 PM, advancebooking said:

Your comment indicates to me about your personality traits. No need for me to mention this apart from the fact I can only assume you are an old grumpy man with no friends and no love in your life. How accurate does that sound?

 

 

Your pathetic approach in regard to these mongrels is clearly misguided. Of course they are likely to bite someone and you didn't even establish that they were house/garden or domestically trained. Why wouldn't you do that?

However, you too sound like a grumpy old man with no friends or love in your life as you don't mention asking anyone else for advice - only on this forum.

What does that say about your personality traits? How accurate is that?

I thought his post was a sensible response to your question.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[blaze master]

2 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

Just because you are married doesn’t mean you have love in your Life…17 years? Should I be impressed? Late 40s and soon hitting 60 if you are lucky…with age comes plenty of health problems chronic and acute…your good years are in your rear view mirror…what’s next? The senior golf tour?

 

Since no mention of kids….

 

your best bet is get a dog…

 

So now you also want to assume incorrectly I don't have love.

 

You're quite good at this. Keep it up you're doing a great job.

[blaze master]

3 hours ago, ujayujay said:

Always the same stupid arguments when it comes to dogs. I only offer compensation if my dog bites someone outside of my property and that depends on the situation. There are enough stupid people who threaten with a stick as a precaution and wave it in front of their nose, then my dog bites and there is no compensation... My property is fenced in and has warning signs. No one has any business inside the property and it is their own fault if my dog does its job.

 

And you say I'm a bad person. You sound like a horrible dog owner. 

 

 

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, Bundooman said:

Your pathetic approach in regard to these mongrels is clearly misguided. Of course they are likely to bite someone and you didn't even establish that they were house/garden or domestically trained. Why wouldn't you do that?

However, you too sound like a grumpy old man with no friends or love in your life as you don't mention asking anyone else for advice - only on this forum.

What does that say about your personality traits? How accurate is that?

I thought his post was a sensible response to your question.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

He played a stupid game and won the prize. 

[Ben Zioner]

4 hours ago, JTXR said:

 Like all dogs, soi dogs here are imprinted and habituated in the first few months of life.  Psychologically they can be a total mess, and they can't be trained out of it.

So best fit for Thai villagers...

[thailand49]

I had such a dog once I did everything but whenever I discipline him he stared at me defiant I finally entice him into the car one day drove him up to Map Lake into the wooded area open the hatch let him out. Got back in drove away giving him the middle finger looking in the rare view mirror the look on its face I busted out laughing who's your daddy now?🤣

[NativeBob]

9 hours ago, JTXR said:

 The humane thing would be euthanasia, but you won't find a Thai vet who will do that.

My cat was suffering from severe kidney malfunction. He stopped eating and drinking. I had to use syringe to forcefully feed him. He was dying. Yet big pretender. 

His blood's readings were very bad. Terminal. 

Yet vet shops [many-many] told me "Buddha" when I requested merciful euthanasia.

We watched him slowly dying

[steven100]

did you expect them to both come in to your place and just behave and sit as you would like  ?

 

 

taking in Soi dogs is a stupid idea.  send them to the temple or a dog shelter,  anywhere away from soi's. 

they are pests ...

[Sandboxer]

Shock collars work wonders, although I'm sure the sensitive soyboy brigade here will chime in with their PETA mouth farts.

[Andre0720]

On 12/2/2024 at 7:07 PM, blaze master said:

I'm reminded of a thai saying. Som nam na.

And now remind yourself to look into the meaning of "Som nam na".

"It serves you right", is the English translation, and it means someone who has behaved badly deserves a negative outcome or punishment.

Does not apply in this instance, as this guy did a kind act.....

[advancebooking]

On 12/4/2024 at 8:09 AM, WDSmart said:

I've adopted well over 20 dogs over the past 20 years. I have 12 right now. I don't regret adopting any of them. 

in your experience, do you think the young dog chewing things will grow out of it when de-sexed/sterilized

[advancebooking]

On 12/4/2024 at 8:13 AM, fredge45 said:

Took your tea cup!  Maybe you should be a bit proactive and keep such items out of reach as well as availability?

 

Vaccinations for both dogs as well as neutering is the best route to take to care for these who have adopted you.  Best dogs I have ever had came along and adopted me.  I'm always amazed how many fools post with hate statements,  It's you folk... not the dogs.

so do you think the young dog will grow out of the chewing habit after sterilization

[advancebooking]

On 12/4/2024 at 8:37 AM, Rampant Rabbit said:

I sometimes get "locals" leave a  dog outside my gate, I ignore it if that fails I dump it at the temple. Pity they cant keep their rubbish for a bin instead of dumping it like their local dogs, stuff strewn everywhere.

you sound like a real charming guy. Many friends?

[advancebooking]

19 hours ago, ujayujay said:

It seems that you want to have dogs, but you have no idea how to train them. Your dogs are bored, so they tear everything apart because you don't look after them enough... just feeding them twice a day isn't enough. I adopted a dingo puppy from a dog shelter 3 years ago and he has learned to behave outside the gate in the village. First try the 5 basic commands: sit, come, no, seek, fetch.....and do it over and over again! My Dingo Lady can go in and out when he wants, but that takes a strong hand and patience! I know what I'm talking about.

so if I continue trying to train them and get them sterilized do you think the chewer dog will stop doing it?

[advancebooking]

17 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

Just because you are married doesn’t mean you have love in your Life…17 years? Should I be impressed? Late 40s and soon hitting 60 if you are lucky…with age comes plenty of health problems chronic and acute…your good years are in your rear view mirror…what’s next? The senior golf tour?

 

Since no mention of kids….

 

your best bet is get a dog…

excellent comment for that guy to read. hes a real piece of work that one. 

[richard_smith237]

19 hours ago, ujayujay said:

My Dingo Lady can go in and out when he wants

19 hours ago, ujayujay said:

then my dog bites and there is no compensation

19 hours ago, ujayujay said:

I know what I'm talking about.

 

Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.

 

You let your dog 'come and goes' as it pleases and don't care if it chases down a kid on a bicycle...  and how would you know it doesn't ? you are not there... you've already admitted you are not there all the time (if your dog comes and goes)... 

 

It also seems you have admitted your dog has already bitten people too - and of course, like so many of a similar mindset, you will not admit responsibility... 

[Letseng]

On 12/2/2024 at 7:12 PM, blaze master said:

 

I think it was an extremely foolish idea in the first place. So that's the reason.

 

You made a decision you were woefully unprepared for. Also I hate thai soi dogs yes. They are dirty disgusting disease spreading problems. 

Get them neutered, cleaned up & most will make pets like any pedigreed dog.

[blaze master]

2 minutes ago, Letseng said:

Get them neutered, cleaned up & most will make pets like any pedigreed dog.

 

Who will take all the pets. The people that threw them out in the first place ?

 

 

[steven100]

9 hours ago, NativeBob said:

My cat was suffering from severe kidney malfunction. He stopped eating and drinking. I had to use syringe to forcefully feed him. He was dying. Yet big pretender. 

His blood's readings were very bad. Terminal. 

Yet vet shops [many-many] told me "Buddha" when I requested merciful euthanasia.

We watched him slowly dying

you could have just bought something from the pharmacy that would put him down peacefully. 

There's several pills that would have worked. 

[Letseng]

5 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Who will take all the pets. The people that threw them out in the first place ?

 

 

Once they are neutered they don't reproduce. 😉