Luigi Mangione frenzy : It’s time for a conversation on left-wing violence!

[jippytum]

People are pissed at many big corporate companies unfairly cheating their customers with small print clauses to deter or avoid payment to genuine claims for compensation when longstanding customers are most in need. 

[Cryingdick]

5 minutes ago, jippytum said:

People are pissed at many big corporate companies unfairly cheating their customers with small print clauses to deter or avoid payment to genuine claims for compensation when longstanding customers are most in need. 

 

Okay, well, i am pissed off at the government for stealing my money and extorting me. You see how that becomes a slippery slope?

[jerrymahoney]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

At this point i wouldn't be surprised if Biden pardons him.

Mangione has not been charged with a federal crime.

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Mangione has not been charged with a federal crime.

Hes eligible for 20 years for making the can (assuming there were internals to classify it) and 30 for using it in a crime. That means he is eligible for SuperMax, where he can sit incognito, solitary, quiet and forgotten like his hero Teddy until his brain turns to mush.

 

If he is in a NYS prison he can continue his cause celebres with his Socialist supporters.

[jerrymahoney]

He has not been charged with a federal crime and -- if Biden wants to pardon him -- he would have to be so charged before Biden leaves office Jan 20, 2025

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

At this point i wouldn't be surprised if Biden pardons him.

I cannot see Biden pardoning many people, you would have to be charged with a crime first, you cannot pardon someone ahead of a charge. It would also mean that a pardon means that person acted wrong. And if he pardoned all the people that went after Trump prior to any charge it would mean that they were guilty of it.

 

I would also say that any pardon could be challenged in the future, on the fact Biden is currently not of sound mind

[riclag]

8 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I cannot see Biden pardoning many people, you would have to be charged with a crime first, you cannot pardon someone ahead of a charge. It would also mean that a pardon means that person acted wrong. And if he pardoned all the people that went after Trump prior to any charge it would mean that they were guilty of it.

 

I would also say that any pardon could be challenged in the future, on the fact Biden is currently not of sound mind

Good point , Biden decisions  deserve a second look because of his mental health issues (doddering old man state).imop

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

There is a constitutional right to US Presidential pardons and -- once effected -- there is no mechanism for a challenge.

[gargamon]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Okay, well, i am pissed off at the government for stealing my money and extorting me. You see how that becomes a slippery slope?

Wait. It's about to get a lot worse. 

[impulse]

31 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

There is a constitutional right to US Presidential pardons and -- once effected -- there is no mechanism for a challenge.

 

There's always a mechanism for a challenge. 

 

I'd see that as a likely outcome if Biden starts keeps pardoning people for crimes that haven't even been tried yet.