Are we really better than the Russians, Indians, Arabs and Chinese in the eyes of Thais?

[Hummin]

Just now, sungod said:

 

The only thing I can figure is that we are far superior to you.

Okay, 

I do not care what you think, 

[MalcolmB]

Just now, sungod said:

 

Says one of our descendants, everyone knows Aussies are frustrated wanna be  Brits 🙂

And whose head do they have on their money? King Charles.

A Union Jack on their flag. 
They speak English, or try to. 

[Lacessit]

17 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

That was your robust, large bodied, big strong beefy, aggressive high testosterone women that won most of your medals.

Your men are fairly pathetic really. 

 

I guess our men retained the Ashes by accident, then.

 

You have had a lot longer than us to learn how to ride horses and bicycles, how is it Australian men won gold in those?

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

And whose head do they have on their money? King Charles.

A Union Jack on their flag. 
They speak English, or try to. 

You have about 30 different accents in the British Isles, ranging from Cockney to Glaswegian.

 

At least we can understand each other.

[sungod]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I guess our men retained the Ashes by accident, then.

 

You have had a lot longer than us to learn how to ride horses and bicycles, how is it Australian men won gold in those?

 Probably due to the fact you practice by riding each other, guess its lonely in the outback.

 

Baaaaaaa !!!!

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Oh dear. I guess that's why we towel you up in quite a few sports.

 

Great Britain population - 68 million

 

Australia population - 27 million

 

Paris Olympics 2024 : Australia 18 gold medals. Great Britain 14 gold medals.

 

Would you like to quit while you are behind, or do you want to keep digging yourself deeper?

MalcolmB is Australian!

[Lacessit]

Just now, BritManToo said:

MalcolmB is Australian!

Probably another British quisling, like Tony Abbott.

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, sungod said:

 Probably due to the fact you practice by riding each other, guess its lonely in the outback.

 

Baaaaaaa !!!!

British humor is supposed to be subtle, you are letting your side down.

[BarBoy]

Are we really better than the Russians, Indians, Arabs and Chinese

 

Yes,

 

without a shadow of a doubt!

[sungod]

Just now, Lacessit said:

British humor is supposed to be subtle, you are letting your side down.

Mate, its just banter and you took the bait......

 

Some of my best friends are Aussies, when we go for a drink this thread would look like nursery school.

 

Love the Anzacs XXX

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Oh dear. I guess that's why we towel you up in quite a few sports.

 

Great Britain population - 68 million

 

Australia population - 27 million

 

Paris Olympics 2024 : Australia 18 gold medals. Great Britain 14 gold medals.

 

Would you like to quit while you are behind, or do you want to keep digging yourself deeper?

 

    The U.K won 65 medals at the Paris Olympics 2024 , compared to Australia winning 53 medals 

[richard_smith237]

13 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I don’t know about that. The Japanese don’t seem to be causing as much trouble as we do for example. 
You don’t really see the Japanese walking around the tourist traps hand in hand with a little brown tattooed hooker as if it is true love dressed like a dirtbag starting fights with bouncers.

Or Russians, or Chinese for that matter. 

 

I kind of agree... But, then, I also have plenty of Japanese friends and they certainly 'appear' to carry on with a better degree of respect and behavior, particularly when it comes to thuggishness when drunk. 

 

They are also far more discrete and don't parade their floozy around as 'some' westerners do... I don't know any Westerners that behave like this either, but see plenty of it in the malls, so I get your point.

 

Also note, the Japanese still get themselves into plenty of trouble overseas and in Thailand too, we just hear less about it because it doesn't make the news / media sources we are more commonly exposed to... i.e. if our information source is limited this forum which is particularly English (language) centric, then we are not made aware of their antics.

 

 

13 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

There is cultural differences.

The question is do Thais see us as superior to the others the way we see ourselves. 

 

I agree that there are cultural differences and your Japanese example is good one, though its not so black and white due to other factors - Also note: The Japanese have one of the largest organised crime networks in the world.

 

Thus: To answer your question: Do Thai's see us 'Westerners' as a 'superior' to other foreigners in Thailand in the same way you described others on this forum seem to express. 

 

The answer is multifaceted as we can't shoe horn a generalisation out of whole nation particularly as 'foreigner' density and nationality population varies from area to area. 

 

Thus:

1) I think most Thai's are completely indifferent to our presence - they are getting on with their own lives and don't care one way or another. 

This is the feeling I get in Bangkok and other locations outside touristy areas, the interactions I have on a daily basis are generally pleasant without any negativity at all, in very much the same way Thai's interact with each other. 

Therefore, In area's outside of major tourist hotspots I think Westerns are viewed upon with attitudes ranging from general indifference to well liked but judged based on individual merit (i.e. appearance, attitude, behavior etc).

 

2) In areas of high tourist footfall Westerners seem to be viewed upon with attitudes from being disliked but tolerated (familiarity breeds contempt) to general indifference and this stems from the the type of foreigner these area's attract (a minority who make the news), much of the 'judgement' may stem from the fact that these higher tourist footfall area's are highly money focused and the type of Thai's these area's seem to attract are somewhat more mercenary in their attitudes. 

 

 

I think its impossible to generalise we'd have to consider on a city by city basis - as an example Russians in Phuket may have drawn more negative attention from the locals primarily due to their numbers than anything else - whereas in Khon Kaen, there are hardly any Russians so the locals will not have an opinion. 

 

Where 'Western Foreginers' fall on that 'totem pole of attitudes' varies across the nation I think - but I still think with any interaction for the most part we are not viewed with any prejudice until we draw it upon ourselves, though there are also numerous exclusions generalisation as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

22 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

The only thing I can figure is that we are far superior to you.

To be at the top of their profession, surgeons need to have the acronyms FRCS, FRACS. after their names. FRCS stands for Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons, FRACS stands for Fellow of the Royal Australian College of Surgeons.

 

FRCS is the first qualification a surgeon gets, followed by FRACS. That's because the second qualification is tougher to obtain, and puts the surgeon in elite company.

 

Still digging? Your arms must be getting tired. Your brain quit some time ago.

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, sungod said:

Mate, its just banter and you took the bait......

 

Some of my best friends are Aussies, when we go for a drink this thread would look like nursery school.

 

Love the Anzacs XXX

I realize it's just banter, and I take the bait quite gleefully because I have facts on my side.

[KannikaP]

23 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You have about 30 different accents in the British Isles, ranging from Cockney to Glaswegian.

 

At least we can understand each other.

But no-one else can!   555

Do you not have regional accents in Oz, like every other country, take USA for example.

[Sheryl]

Completely off topic post removef

[Celsius]

I am better than everyone on this forum 

[Lacessit]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    The U.K won 65 medals at the Paris Olympics 2024 , compared to Australia winning 53 medals 

Brits are much better at coming second or third.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Celsius said:

I am better than everyone on this forum 

And the winner for today's biggest assumption goes to......

[KhunBENQ]

The topic is about foreigners in the eyes of Thai.

And like it or not but the "working girls" very often exclude Indian man for their behavior/treatment of women.

Not so much about other nationals.

They distinguish them for their spending habits.

Germans considered "stingy"

US, Norwegian much better.

Koreans top of the list.

 

[sungod]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I realize it's just banter, and I take the bait quite gleefully because I have facts on my side.

 

I only have one fact on my side to be honest, one that is impossible to argue with.

 

We are far superior to you, you are our diluted descendants.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, KhunBENQ said:

The topic is about foreigners in the eyes of Thai.

And like it or not but the "working girls" very often exclude Indian man for their behavior/treatment of women.

Not so much about other nationals.

They distinguish them for their spending habits.

Germans considered "stingy"

US, Norwegian much better.

Koreans top of the list.

 

It depends on what criteria are used.

 

Koreans IMO are well-mannered people, and have a good reputation with Thais.

 

OTOH, on a golf course they make snails look like racehorses.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, sungod said:

 

I only have one fact on my side to be honest, one that is impossible to argue with.

 

We are far superior to you, you are our diluted descendants.

My ancestry is Scandinavian, French and a dash of Scots.

 

IIRC both the Vikings and the French gave you a good hiding back in the day. Aussies continue their traditions.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, sungod said:

 

I only have one fact on my side to be honest, one that is impossible to argue with.

 

We are far superior to you, you are our diluted descendants.

An adult usually doesn't resort to generalizations about any one race or nationality, because common sense shows this is an impossible thing to do without knowing all about everyone involved. The US wins more medals but that doesn't mean all US people are better in any way than anyone else. The same goes for all countries. The US is a melting pot of all countries so being prejudiced against it means you're prejudiced against your own people, because of the former. No race or nationality is superior to any other.

 

People are better in sports than others, but that's also an individual thing, The US has better regular football players than all other countries, but that's because other countries aren't as involved in the sport. Baseball is a US pastime, but some Japanese players have proven to be top of the line as far as talent for the game. If you're talking about people in general, no one is any better than anyone else, besides in individual ways.  Some just act better than others, which doesn't mean they are better people, but they might act better socially. Prejudice sure rears it's ugly head here, and that shows inferiority as a person.

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Brits are much better at coming second or third.

 

   Only three of Australia's gold medals were in sports other than watersports , Skateboarding and BMX riding .

   Like, Saya Sakakibara won gold medal for Australia in the BMX racing event 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

I am.

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

I don’t know about that. The Japanese don’t seem to be causing as much trouble as we do for example. 
You don’t really see the Japanese walking around the tourist traps hand in hand with a little brown tattooed hooker as if it is true love dressed like a dirtbag starting fights with bouncers.

Or Russians, or Chinese for that matter. 

 

There is cultural differences.

The question is do Thais see us as superior to the others the way we see ourselves. 

big japanese call center operation was discovered by police yesterday , millions of Baht involved, that would explain the japs keeping a low profile, well some of them anyway.

[sungod]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

An adult usually doesn't resort to generalizations about any one race or nationality, because common sense shows this is an impossible thing to do without knowing all about everyone involved. The US wins more medals but that doesn't mean all US people are better in any way than anyone else. The same goes for all countries. The US is a melting pot of all countries so being prejudiced against it means you're prejudiced against your own people, because of the former. No race or nationality is superior to any other.

 

People are better in sports than others, but that's also an individual thing, The US has better regular football players than all other countries, but that's because other countries aren't as involved in the sport. Baseball is a US pastime, but some Japanese players have proven to be top of the line as far as talent for the game. If you're talking about people in general, no one is any better than anyone else, besides in individual ways.  Some just act better than others, which doesn't mean they are better people, but they might act better socially. Prejudice sure rears it's ugly head here, and that shows inferiority as a person.

 

Bang on Fred, I'm not an adult.

[scottiejohn]

20 minutes ago, Celsius said:

I am better than everyone on this forum 

At what?

[sungod]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Only three of Australia's gold medals were in sports other than watersports , Skateboarding and BMX riding .

   Like, Saya Sakakibara won gold medal for Australia in the BMX racing event 

 

 

Lets not forget 'Raygun' pride of Australia!