Foreign Tourist Swallows Traffic Ticket in Odd Pattaya Incident

[iLuvThai]

It costs me $35 Canadian for an international drivers license. I'm curious how much in the fine for driving without a license? And if you get stopped, fined for no license or helmet, do you just get the ticket, and sent in your way, with no license and helmet or are you know looking for a taxi?

[stubby52]

i hope he has to cool his heels over night and pays 10x the fine when he fronts the court,he is an idiot no matter what colour he is.

[roo860]

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

Quality tourist. 

 

Probably here on a long term visa learning Muay Thai. 

 

Why do we never hear these nutty tourists in Dubai or Malaysia ?

Probably because it's not exactly headline  news 

[Trip Hop]

16 hours ago, AlwaysThere said:

 

No you don't. I see only tourists pulled over. Though agree that skin colour likely did not play a part. Just an obvious tourist with no helmet and no shirt. 

Nope, when in town I often frequent one of the bars right by that checkpoint late afternoon as it’s good entertainment value watching the BIB go about their business.

 

Was there only a few days ago and seen them stop a female local who was conservatively dressed and even wearing a helmet. Admittedly I’d say 90% of stops are farangs but I regularly see them stopping their own.

[biggles45]

4 hours ago, Tailwagsdog said:

NO VISA REQUIRED

If, as the news above your post says, he is from Britain, he would not have required a visa under the earlier policy as he gets 30 days visa free. So he could still have holidayed here without a visa the same as a million others. 

[Trip Hop]

56 minutes ago, iLuvThai said:

It costs me $35 Canadian for an international drivers license. I'm curious how much in the fine for driving without a license? And if you get stopped, fined for no license or helmet, do you just get the ticket, and sent in your way, with no license and helmet or are you know looking for a taxi?

If you’re a Thai, you get a ticket and I think 30 days to pay. If you’re a farang they impound the bike at roadside until you can show that the ticket has been paid and you’re allowed on your way. 
 

Generally in Pattaya they’ll fine you 500B for each offence although the official rate is lower. It’s not worth arguing though unless you want to waste a few hours of your time in the station. 

[Jonathan Swift]

On 12/22/2024 at 9:28 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Are the police the same as UK police and not trained in restraint?

 

Try that in Sydney Australia  and unfortunately and I do say unfortunately they would of used their chokehold procedures ( which should be banned) to put him on the ground 

What were they going to do if he walked away like he was doing ?

 

Lack of training ?

“would of”?

[Gecko123]

2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Firs off she said "person of color" at the very start (คนผิวสี). not talking about the text or anything.

 

We stopped saying "colored person" decades ago (wikipedia say it may be considered a slur)  but now "person of color" is acceptable according to our masters so which is it? Is she using the American racial slur from the 60s "colored person" or the modern American term "person of color" to describe a non-white person? 

just admit it she's copying political correct nonsense from America. Probably watches American news and picked up the term. So what? 

For the last time, she did not say "person of color" in the intro. She referred to the guy as a "person with colored skin" which you erroneously, and in your eagerness to jump on the anti-woke bandwagon, misinterpreted as "person of color." At least two other posters have tried to explain this to you as well. If you're going to just pursue a hard headed ideological agenda I can't stop you, but when you pose a question about the Thai language as you did, at least have the decency and intellectual honesty to appreciate it when people try to improve your understanding of the language.

[Captain Flack]

A racist troll post has been removed

[Taboo2]

4 hours ago, IrishInThailand said:

Is he a moron from africaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i wonder

UK ...Ok, leave Africans alone...

[Sig]

6 hours ago, phetphet said:

I have heard Thais use the term "Chocolate man" in English. I don't think it was meant to be racist in any way. Rather a lack of vocabulary in what is not their mother tongue... But I might be wrong.

They definitely have a variety of vocabulary to refer to people "of color", "with colored skin", or "black" people. But yeah, I agree with you in doubting that they meant "chocolate man" in any sort of racist way. It actually sounds complimentary, to me.

[Burma Bill]

On 12/22/2024 at 8:47 AM, webfact said:

When issued a traffic citation for these infractions, the visitor bizarrely ingested the ticket,

 

This must have given the police something to chew on!

[hotandsticky]

12 minutes ago, Sig said:

They definitely have a variety of vocabulary to refer to people "of color", "with colored skin", or "black" people. But yeah, I agree with you in doubting that they meant "chocolate man" in any sort of racist way. It actually sounds complimentary, to me.

 

 

Passive racism..........................but if the recipient of the comment is offended then it is offensive - and racist.

[Sig]

20 hours ago, G_Money said:

Time to open your eyes.

 

I see Thais pulled over just as often.  Yes I do.

I have no idea what the statistics might show... but another dimension that I haven't seen mentioned (although it may have been), is one that a Thai friend brought up to me one time ago. He said that he felt bad because the police almost only pull over people in cheap cars or trucks (yeah, different context than motorcycles, but hear me out). He felt bad because those are the people who can least afford the ticket. He told me to pay attention in the future when seeing cars pulled over and see if you ever see an expensive car pulled over. He said it's rare. My experience since then shows the same. His idea (probably right) was that it was because people in nice cars might have connections, so the police are fearful of getting some kind of trouble from them. I had an experience that corroborated that when I was with a higher level government worker who just blew past police telling her to pull over. They didn't even chase her down. I was amazed! She even blew through toll booths that were physically being monitored by police, who also waved her to stop. No consequences. She said, just let them try and they'll regret it!😲
Another aspect that my friend mentioned re farang - the police believe that farang, or any other tourist, is rich enough to pay the fine without even being bothered, so they see it as a good opportunity to get their station's coffers filled (and maybe/probably even some personal benefit). They figure it shouldn't even upset the farang/tourist since it's such a small amount of money to them. And they were breaking the law anyway... so, no big deal. Just doing business.

[Sig]

6 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Passive racism..........................but if the recipient of the comment is offended then it is offensive - and racist.

That's about as shallow of an understanding as I can imagine one to maintain, not to mention impossible to defend with any intellectual honesty. I suppose that would mean that I believe your understanding is about as ignorant as can be.

[Mr Meeseeks]

Hope the dum pit pee got what he deserved. 

[NoDisplayName]

6 hours ago, wavodavo said:

I was stopped at a police roadblock years ago and as the Sergeant was writing the ticket 3 cars wizzed by clearly speeding and I said to him why dont you stop those cars and book them and he replied I can only book one at a time.So same would apply in Thailand.

 

Shirley, you realize the point of my comment.

 

It was not that the stunning and brave defenders of the realm let other lawbreakers slide while dealing with one threat to national security.

 

You can figger it out, Shirley!

[NoDisplayName]

39 minutes ago, Sig said:

They definitely have a variety of vocabulary to refer to people "of color", "with colored skin", or "black" people. But yeah, I agree with you in doubting that they meant "chocolate man" in any sort of racist way. It actually sounds complimentary, to me.

 

"Chocolate Man in Thailand" is a popular Youtuber retired in Pattaya.

[black tabby12345]

Eating a traffic ticket.

Most useless effort to dodge the penalty.

Cops simply re-issue it LOL.

[Gecko123]

1 hour ago, Sig said:

They definitely have a variety of vocabulary to refer to people "of color", "with colored skin", or "black" people. But yeah, I agree with you in doubting that they meant "chocolate man" in any sort of racist way. It actually sounds complimentary, to me.

 

Have only heard 'chocolate man' used in the most affectionate and endearing way by a Thai woman to describe her African-American husband. Never, ever have I heard it used as a put down.

[NanLaew]

9 hours ago, suspectdevice said:

Proselytising or just telling the truth? Like he says, tell the truth and you will be branded a racist. 

 

Foreigners can proselytise back home, where someone may actually give a toss. Look out the window. We're in Thailand, for goodness sakes. Who cares about the truth?

 

Sheesh...

[pomchop]

22 hours ago, AlwaysThere said:

 

No you don't. I see only tourists pulled over. Though agree that skin colour likely did not play a part. Just an obvious tourist with no helmet and no shirt. 

I live next door and walk by there a lot...I have seen lots and lots of thais pulled over as well as tourists.

[cardinalblue]

On 12/22/2024 at 9:20 AM, Andre0720 said:

This guy is so stupid, it actually looks funny.

And then we the obvious is stated, a given individual, of a given skin color, and of a given race, the word racist just pops up. We are trying, trying...

 

How many times have I said to individuals of such characteristics back home, newly immigrants, that their behavior will affect the perception that the host country has towards all the others visitors of the same background.

They simply do not care, or are unaware that their behavior is unacceptable, or simply because they cannot change anything, it is deep rooted in their culture....

For you to even bring up his skin color shows why certain labels apply to you 

 

you would have said the exact same thing about the white guy wearing only a shirt and carrying a knife had he been any other color but white….

[findlay13]

On 12/22/2024 at 12:28 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Are the police the same as UK police and not trained in restraint?

 

Try that in Sydney Australia  and unfortunately and I do say unfortunately they would of used their chokehold procedures ( which should be banned) to put him on the ground 

What were they going to do if he walked away like he was doing ?

 

Lack of training ?

Training ? Thai Police?

Oxymorons

[DonniePeverley]

15 hours ago, roo860 said:

Probably because it's not exactly headline  news 

 

 

I doubt a tourist would try this in Dubai. 

 

Thailand has lost the message on going strong after criminals. It's too caught up in 'being nice' and hospitable to tourists. These criminals ruin it though for other tourists and locals. 

[jacko45k]

22 hours ago, G_Money said:

“once”

 

I’ve observed them ticketing Thais on numerous occasions.

 

I didn't say they never ticketed Thais.... but in that location the tourists seem to get hit more. Let's face it, if it is not hard to find a tourist without a helmet, and /or without an IDP on them. 

[roo860]

6 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

I doubt a tourist would try this in Dubai. 

 

Thailand has lost the message on going strong after criminals. It's too caught up in 'being nice' and hospitable to tourists. These criminals ruin it though for other tourists and locals. 

Wouldn't exactly call him a 'criminal ', eating it is better than throwing it in the road to add to the rubbish that's already there.

[NanLaew]

On 12/22/2024 at 10:11 AM, Andre0720 said:

I see you're still not over yourself.

 

Your goal is only meant to criticize, and bring nothing to any forum.

 

And you can see how easy it is. Nobody knows what it means, but you still click and send

 

Do you always respond so badly to criticism? Or is it only the anonymous forum thing?

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I didn't say they never ticketed Thais.... but in that location the tourists seem to get hit more. Let's face it, if it is not hard to find a tourist without a helmet, and /or without an IDP on them. 

 

[Andre0720]

11 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

For you to even bring up his skin color shows why certain labels apply to you 

 

you would have said the exact same thing about the white guy wearing only a shirt and carrying a knife had he been any other color but white….

Not so.

First no label here. If it were the case, I would not have welcomed some immigrants of this skin color in my house, from different African countries.

As I wrote, we are trying, I am trying. But only to realize how they disregard rules, and our culture.

So when I saw the video of this guy, I could relate to the bemusement of the officers.

 

And referring to your comment about "the exact same thing about the white guy", I can just comment that I also welcomed many 'white guys' as you call them, but to never see such bad behavior from any of them. But it must be stated that dealing with first generation newcomers is where the problem is at its peak...

 

But so often, when facts are offered on this site, many members here just try to criticize. If you have facts, like having welcomed a great number of Africans in your house, only to find them of a higher culture than yours, please explain and describe for the benefit of the users here...