Woman Dies After Being Set on Fire in New York Subway

[metisdead]

A post trolling about a fictitious medical condition has been removed.

[SunnyinBangrak]

18 minutes ago, riclag said:

Once upon a time the Gov of NY unleashed the national guard to protect the subway travelers from the criminal, drug and mental health afflicted !

 

 

I was in NY under mayor Giuliani's reign. What a fantastic place. Crime was very rare, you could happily walk around after dark. Subways were safe, criminals were punished instead of good samaritans. Violent criminals didnt get a pass because of the amount of melanin in their skin. 

Of course, thanks to this Giuliani is a pariah now. 

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I was in NY under mayor Giuliani's reign. What a fantastic place. Crime was very rare, you could happily walk around after dark. Subways were safe, criminals were punished instead of good samaritans. Violent criminals didnt get a pass because of the amount of melanin in their skin. 

Of course, thanks to this Giuliani is a pariah now. 

Once considered America’s mayor until he sided with 45/47.

Maybe theres a chance for a comeback!

[frank83628]

11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Yup, the Daniel Penny effect has been given as a reason why bystanders were unwilling to aid the woman.  But long before Daniel Penny's case attracted so much attention, New Yorkers had been hesitant to render any help to victims of subway crime.  Basically, they fear the consquences of getting involved in a criminal matter.

 

Critics say bystanders stood by while illegal migrant allegedly burned woman to death on NYC subway: ‘Daniel Penny effect’

 

“Nobody came to her aid,” said Guardian Angels founder and community activist Curtis Sliwa. “There’s no doubt that people don’t want to get involved. It’s the Daniel Penny factor. It’s frozen people. They’re saying to themselves: ‘I don’t want to get jammed up like Penny.

“People should have been running over to the woman on fire. They did nothing. They said nothing,” Sliwa said, calling the reluctance of bystanders to intervene “the Daniel Penny effect.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/critics-bystanders-stood-while-illegal-231041397.html

 

To be far, that's in part to the US suing culture, which has been going on for decades. 

[Hamus Yaigh]

16 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Another senseless act of violence that could have been prevented with secure borders.

More senseless rhetoric. Its not as if every illegal crossing the borders is setting people on fire.

[josephbloggs]

14 hours ago, mdr224 said:

No leftists going to be posting in this thread

Yeah, left leaning people who believe in equality and equal justice and opportunities are not going to condemn somebody setting an innocent person on fire. What is wrong with you????

Why bring politics in to this? A horrible crime and a horrible horrible death. Take your petty attempt at political point scoring and shove it where it belongs. Sick.

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

Maybe the extreme Leftists will somehow blame the victim?

 

Or blame rational, empathetic people for coming down hard on the perp and wanting justice?

 

"Inclusion and tolerance"

 

Hopefully the poor woman's soul got the hell outta her body before long...

[georgegeorgia]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Yeah, left leaning people who believe in equality and equal justice and opportunities are not going to condemn somebody setting an innocent person on fire. What is wrong with you????

Why bring politics in to this? A horrible crime and a horrible horrible death. Take your petty attempt at political point scoring and shove it where it belongs. Sick.

Oh please !

The offender had a mental illness ,he deserves a very long time in a treatment facility rather than a jail.

 

[EVENKEEL]

7 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

More senseless rhetoric. Its not as if every illegal crossing the borders is setting people on fire.

Tell that bit of wisdom to the lady on fire

[mdr224]

7 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Yeah, left leaning people who believe in equality and equal justice and opportunities are not going to condemn somebody setting an innocent person on fire. What is wrong with you????

Why bring politics in to this? A horrible crime and a horrible horrible death. Take your petty attempt at political point scoring and shove it where it belongs. Sick.

Leftists are responsible for this womans death. Biden and the people who keep voting democrat

[Celsius]

January 20th can't come fast enough 

[JonnyF]

8 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

More senseless rhetoric. Its not as if every illegal crossing the borders is setting people on fire.

 

Would that be the point at which you would agree borders should be secured? 😆

 

Or would it need to be more serious?

[Yagoda]

9 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

More senseless rhetoric. Its not as if every illegal crossing the borders is setting people on fire.

Well this poor woman would be alive today if we had a secure border. You from the USA by any chance?

[expat_4_life]

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh please !

The offender had a mental illness ,he deserves a very long time in a treatment facility rather than a jail.

 

Oh please ! (this was all avoidable)
The accused offender was previously deported in 2018 ... should never have been allowed to re-enter, don't they have treatment in his country?

The correct number of women set on fire on the subway is zero.

Actions have consequences, he's a murderer.

[riclag]

5 hours ago, Celsius said:

January 20th can't come fast enough 

Its gonna take more then God, Jesus, Trump & Musk to clean up whats been goin on in that hell hole.

 

https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/02/13/sanctuary-city-explainer-nyc/

[sqwakvfr]

 After seeing what Penny went through my thoughts on getting involved have changed.  The thought of me just jumping in and assisting has been tempered.  My gut reaction is if I was on that train I would have tried to assist the lady on fire. As I recall most subway trains have fire extinguishers?  Did anyone at least look for the extinguisher?  The more I think about this incident the more it disturbs me.  

 

In terms of not getting involved I guess one might think about these scenarios. On a subway one can exit at the next station or run to another carriage.  On a moving bus the only option would be break the window and jump? On a moving train the only option is the next carriage.  Or wait for the nesxt station. The most vulnerable place would be an airplane at 30,000 feet.  In this instance I would get involved. I guess one must decide before such an incident occurrs.

 

Lastly the suspect's immigration is secondary.  Yes if the suspect was not in the country then he would not have been on the subway.  But there many in America who are legal who are  just as capable of doing the same.