8 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

...or just maybe Thailand is the overhyped shiny turd that it is.

I never expected much, so I wasn't disappointed.

Just now, Hawaiian said:

I never expected much, so I wasn't disappointed.

 

I never came here thinking I would stay, it was only supposed to be temporary, I sucked it up for my family's sake. Now after the pandemic we find ourselves stuck here, it's like a cruel joke, but it's not....this place is about as close to Hell as I have ever been.

13 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

...or just maybe Thailand is the overhyped shiny turd that it is.

You messed up when you thought thailand was good for anything other than the girls

1 minute ago, mdr224 said:

You messed up when you thought thailand was good for anything other than the girls

 

Actually, it turned out to be exactly what I expected, a 3rd World <deleted>hole.

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Actually, it turned out to be exactly what I expected, a 3rd World <deleted>hole.

Yeah but youre going to miss it when you leave. Japanese girls are weird and racist, and western girls are feminized. Take advantage of what thailand offers while you can

8 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Yeah but youre going to miss it when you leave. Japanese girls are weird and racist, and western girls are feminized. Take advantage of what thailand offers while you can

 

I'm married with a daughter, and we didn't meet in Thailand, nor have I ever spent a day here in any bar chasing any girls. It may appeal to barstool expats, old men chasing women half their age, or those interested in pedophilia, but that's about it.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

What has a dearth of Japanese long-term visa options got to do with their burgeoning tourism?

Japan is purely a tourist destination and LOS is mix of tourists and long term visa holders  who are probably counted when they come and go.  My point is I believe the numbers posted by the Japanese governmet. 

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

They were in shambles because they were reduced to rubble by wars.  Both those countries have been highly educated and had rich complex cultures for thousands of years.

Thailand does not a have long history with a complex cutlure composed of educated people?

6 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Thailand does not a have long history with a complex cutlure composed of educated people?

 

Japan has an average IQ of 106, the highest in the World, Thailand is barely treading water at 88. I think education is seriously lacking here in Thailand, but that's by design, last thing the Elite want is an "educated people".

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

There are cheats lair's and scammers (sic) in pretty much every country. They also tend to prey on a certain demographic or locale. From what I hear, barstools are a really risky place to be.

as I pointed out,  Japan isn't known for scammers, cheats and lairs like here.  

enough said on that subject. 

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

I just happen to live in Hawaii.  Lived here all my life.  I've been all over the Pacific, but never to Australia and have no desire to go there.

No-one asked, or invited you, to come, so please, do us a favour, stay away.

7 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Japan has an average IQ of 106, the highest in the World, Thailand is barely treading water at 88. I think education is seriously lacking here in Thailand, but that's by design, last thing the Elite want is an "educated people".

 

Which is exactly why Thailand wants and needs high tourism numbers. It absorbs a less skilled, less educated workforce.

27 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Japan has an average IQ of 106, the highest in the World, Thailand is barely treading water at 88. I think education is seriously lacking here in Thailand, but that's by design, last thing the Elite want is an "educated people".

Where did you get the IQ stats from? I have known some dumb Japanese people.  I have some distant Japanese relatives because Japan occuppied Korea (when it was the Joesen Dynasty) from 1910 until the end of WWII and some in my family line were "invited" to work in Japan. 

2 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

so you would prefer a warm snow season... mmm

Can in Dubai - https://www.skidxb.com/en-ae/ski-dubai

 

It is Dubai though...

9 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Where did you get the IQ stats from? I have known some dumb Japanese people.  I have some distant Japanese relatives because Japan occuppied Korea (when it was the Joesen Dynasty) from 1910 until the end of WWII and some in my family line were "invited" to work in Japan. 

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

 

2 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

 

The numbers were probably higher in the past.  Like the generation that actually built the country. 

It is not a bad place, but I have to wear my headphones Japanese for me are some of the loudest big mouths in the world I can feel it in my lungs when they talk.

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

It is not a bad place, but I have to wear my headphones Japanese for me are some of the loudest big mouths in the world I can feel it in my lungs when they talk.

 

As opposed to the screaming high tones of Thai's? 

In the last 3 weeks I've spent 5 days in Bangkok and 9 days in Central Japan (Tokyo, Nagano & Kanazawa).  Massively different places, and loved all of them for different reasons.  Hiking in the snow-covered Japanese Alps, snow monkeys, shrines, museums, with excellent food & bars.  Bangers was Wats, sport and excellent food & bars.

 

Plenty of overlap.  I knew Japan was going to be cold, so I prepared.  I knew BKK was going to be hot, so I prepared.  Food and bars were different, but loved both places.  Met great local people in both places.  No safety issues in either place, but I'm way more careful in Bangers, in bars and on roads.  Girly bars in both places, both are expensive and rarely worth it.  "Massages" available in both places, much cheaper in BKK (so I've been told 🤭).  Japan much cleaner (air & trash).  I live in an expensive place, so both places are relatively cheap to me, Japan edges it on value for money though.

 

Basically, choose what you want and go find it.  Understand the ups and downs.  Not going to go to Thailand for cool-weather hiking, not going to go to Japan for Thai food.  Not going to either place for a bar girl.  Not going to try to retire to Japan, but I love visiting.  Might retire to Thailand but I know there are downsides.

4 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

It is not a bad place, but I have to wear my headphones Japanese for me are some of the loudest big mouths in the world I can feel it in my lungs when they talk.

Not my experience, but then again I've not met every single Japanese person there.

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

As opposed to the screaming high tones of Thai's?

I've met some Thai women with quite deep voices...

Just now, Watawattana said:

I've met some Thai women with quite deep voices...

 

Those are called ladyboys.

20 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

I currently live in the 4th placed country, and have done for many years.  The high IQ is deserved, boy there are some amazingly clever people here.

 

I've never found a country-by-country index for common sense, critical, practical or adaptive thinking though.  Suspect the top 10 countries y IQ would be very, very different.

4 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

Those are called ladyboys.

I guessed but never bothered to check.

7 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

In the last 3 weeks I've spent 5 days in Bangkok and 9 days in Central Japan (Tokyo, Nagano & Kanazawa).  Massively different places, and loved all of them for different reasons.  Hiking in the snow-covered Japanese Alps, snow monkeys, shrines, museums, with excellent food & bars.  Bangers was Wats, sport and excellent food & bars.

 

Plenty of overlap.  I knew Japan was going to be cold, so I prepared.  I knew BKK was going to be hot, so I prepared.  Food and bars were different, but loved both places.  Met great local people in both places.  No safety issues in either place, but I'm way more careful in Bangers, in bars and on roads.  Girly bars in both places, both are expensive and rarely worth it.  "Massages" available in both places, much cheaper in BKK (so I've been told 🤭).  Japan much cleaner (air & trash).  I live in an expensive place, so both places are relatively cheap to me, Japan edges it on value for money though.

 

Basically, choose what you want and go find it.  Understand the ups and downs.  Not going to go to Thailand for cool-weather hiking, not going to go to Japan for Thai food.  Not going to either place for a bar girl.  Not going to try to retire to Japan, but I love visiting.  Might retire to Thailand but I know there are downsides.

If you did retire in Japan what kind of long term visa would you pursue? I have researched it and the only options for long term stay in Japan seems to be: 1) Marriage(no way) 2) Employment (too old and Japanese companies do not like to hire Gaijin anyway 3) Education (Doubt I can I actually get accepted by a Japanese university 4) Japan has somekind of  long term visa that the government does not publicize?? My guess is wealthy people would know this but I am not wealthy. 

43 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

Can in Dubai - https://www.skidxb.com/en-ae/ski-dubai

 

It is Dubai though...

stop... most want the resort, and not an overcrowded artificial ski jump, and it's still cold on the snow, and that's the reason for my comment... stop being foolish... everyone else knows what I meant, you pedantic bogan

17 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Those are called ladyboys.

oh dear... you missed his humour

51 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

oh dear... you missed his humour

 

56 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

stop... most want the resort, and not an overcrowded artificial ski jump, and it's still cold on the snow, and that's the reason for my comment... stop being foolish... everyone else knows what I meant, you pedantic bogan

oh dear... you missed my humour

Japan is better than Thailand in almost every conceivable way and the people are well mannered, orderly and law abiding.

21 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Japan’s rise as a favoured tourist destination over Thailand is attributed to a weaker currency and its preparedness to welcome independent travellers

 

Great news!

IMO Japan - no ghastly sex tourism, no cannabis shops, no robbing ladyboys, no bars full with whinging old fart ex-pats, hardly any scamming of tourists and a genuine welcome! Long may the country stay at the top!

No further comment from me.