Greenland

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5 hours ago, Hummin said:

After all, Greenlenders came from Asia.

 

Are Greenlandic people Asian?

They are Inuit, or “Eskimos” to use an old term, and like their relatives in Canada, originally came to North America from Siberia over the Bering Straight (although much later historically than the ancestors of the First Nations, or “Indians”.) So they look like Asians because their ancestors were from Asia

 

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Is your point that they are really Chinese?

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Is your point that they are really Chinese?

Being involuntary colonized and treated unfairly for centuries could give them another view of the wold than you and me. 

 

After all their dna is asian, who knows what that means for their identity. I'm quite sure they do not want to be dictated by Trump what to do. 

 

Some history about Nordic colonialism 

 

https://nordics.info/show/artikel/the-colonialism-of-denmark-norway-and-its-legacies

 

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47 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Being involuntary colonized and treated unfairly for centuries could give them another view of the wold than you and me. 

 

After all their dna is asian, who knows what that means for their identity. I'm quite sure they do not want to be dictated by Trump what to do. 

 

Some history about Nordic colonialism 

 

https://nordics.info/show/artikel/the-colonialism-of-denmark-norway-and-its-legacies

 

Their DNA is Asian? Really? Is their language related to Chinese? Do they share a religion? Eat the same foods? What you'rr positing is just mystical argle bargle of a type that has historically been used as an excuse for bad behavior on the part of the more powerful.

[CANSIAM]

I think he wants the Panama Canal back, probably more useful for the US Navy than any Greenland dreams.......

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, CANSIAM said:

I think he wants the Panama Canal back, probably more useful for the US Navy than any Greenland dreams.......

He won't get it back. 

[Hummin]

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Their DNA is Asian? Really? Is their language related to Chinese? Do they share a religion? Eat the same foods? What you'rr positing is just mystical argle bargle of a type that has historically been used as an excuse for bad behavior on the part of the more powerful.

Ease of a bit, after all, Trump seems to have serious concerns about the future of Greenland. What the greenlenders idea of their future might be something different regarding how they have been controlled and colonized. Nothing else.

 

They are not happy with Danish control and I'm sure they are not happy with Trump either. 

[Lacessit]

Trump will be a busy man. While he is building the wall no-one seems to want to pay for, he will have to figure out a way to stop the Greenland ice cap from melting if he takes over.

 

A tough call, considering what a source of hot air he is.

 

Any takers for a Trump resort in Greenland? I know it's a big leap from gold sneakers and bibles.

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, Hummin said:

They are not happy with Danish control and I'm sure they are not happy with Trump either

Are they not happy with danish control? Hardly any control, they're self governing.

[Hummin]

22 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Are they not happy with danish control? Hardly any control, they're self governing.

Self control with modifications, and when Trump Jr now arrives Greenland without notification to Denmark, creates an foreign international crisis between Denmark and Usa. Even they claims it is a private matter, and Trump have not taken the seat yet.

 

Why? Timing ? What is Trump's beef with Denmark? Same the open speculations about Canada? 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/denmark-king-greenland-donald-trump-2010801

[SunnyinBangrak]

Don Jr is awesome. He's about to make Greenland Great again. What a guy. Nobody laughing now at the idea Trump is going to conquer Greenland with no shots fired.

[stevenl]

41 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Self control with modifications, and when Trump Jr now arrives Greenland without notification to Denmark, creates an foreign international crisis between Denmark and Usa. Even they claims it is a private matter, and Trump have not taken the seat yet.

 

Why? Timing ? What is Trump's beef with Denmark? Same the open speculations about Canada? 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/denmark-king-greenland-donald-trump-2010801

Avoiding the question.

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Avoiding the question.

Same as every state in Usa is self governing, non of the states is a sovereign country, same as Greenland. 

[John Drake]

Personally, I'd prefer some South Sea islands that might let me live cheaper than Thailand. Don't care for Greenland's cold. Come on, Donald, force the French out of Tahiti and take it over, instead.

[UWEB]

On 12/24/2024 at 6:04 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

I think he recognizes the westwards creep of communism/socialism from China and the dangers such anti western democratic way of life poses. Denmark like the rest of western Europe is under the grip of commie/woke/self loathing/population replacement whackjobs, not a big stretch to see them aligning totally with Beijing when the population has been sufficiently "enriched" and then having red army bases all over Greenland with nukes pointing at the US from its backyard.

 

Far better just to annex Grernland and save the worry. Make Greenland Great Again, end of the day it's up to Greenland based voters if they want to be free or under the woke yoke.

 

Hard to beat such a nonsense.

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2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Ease of a bit, after all, Trump seems to have serious concerns about the future of Greenland. What the greenlenders idea of their future might be something different regarding how they have been controlled and colonized. Nothing else.

 

They are not happy with Danish control and I'm sure they are not happy with Trump either. 

But somehow their shared DNA will promote a harmonious relationship with China?

[stevenl]

38 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Same as every state in Usa is self governing, non of the states is a sovereign country, same as Greenland. 

Avoiding the question. 

Are they not happy with danish control as you stated?

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Avoiding the question. 

Are they not happy with danish control as you stated?

It is a matter of 100ˋś of years of unfair treatment and control and a question about identity. The Greenledners want total independence from the Danish Government.

 

Lets see, who else want independence in Europe? I just didnt understand this was your important question. Of course they are not happy being controlled by the Danish. Almost 80% voted for total independence if I remember right

[candide]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Don Jr is awesome. He's about to make Greenland Great again. What a guy. Nobody laughing now at the idea Trump is going to conquer Greenland with no shots fired.

Only MAGAs not laughing....

[SunnyinBangrak]

10 minutes ago, candide said:

Only MAGAs not laughing....

I can only assume you are unaware of the fact Greenlands leader is pushing for independence after Trump kicked this hornets nest with his size 13 clod-hoppers. Could he topple 2 countries leaderships in a week? This is bull in a china stuff on steroids. I love Trump!

[candide]

It's you unaware that the process started long before that.

 

The draft was presented by a constitutional commission in April 2024 (it took a few years to draft it).

 

Greenland Unveils Draft Constitution for Future Independence

https://www.voanews.com/a/greenland-unveils-draft-constitution-for-future-independence-/7070997.html

 

BTW, did I misunderstood that Trump wanted to annex Greenland?

[stevenl]

10 hours ago, Hummin said:

It is a matter of 100ˋś of years of unfair treatment and control and a question about identity. The Greenledners want total independence from the Danish Government.

 

Lets see, who else want independence in Europe? I just didnt understand this was your important question. Of course they are not happy being controlled by the Danish. Almost 80% voted for total independence if I remember right

Again claims without proof.

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10 hours ago, Hummin said:

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Lets see, who else want independence in Europe? I just didnt understand this was your important question. 

Belarusans

[Jingthing]

Greenlanders may want to be their own sovereign nation, the same as many Puerto Ricans do, but Greenlanders wanting independence is NOT the same thing as wanting to be annexed by the U.S.

[stevenl]

10 hours ago, Hummin said:

It is a matter of 100ˋś of years of unfair treatment and control and a question about identity. The Greenledners want total independence from the Danish Government.

 

Lets see, who else want independence in Europe? I just didnt understand this was your important question. Of course they are not happy being controlled by the Danish. Almost 80% voted for total independence if I remember right

Right, hence annexation by the US.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Right, hence annexation by the US.

Explain

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Explain

Look at the title and the OP of the thread.

[BarBoy]

On 12/25/2024 at 10:05 AM, Callmeishmael said:

I'm not looking forward to another 4 years of this nonsense...

Oh I am..

 

Free speech is finally back!

 

Even Zuckerberg is getting in on the act...

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12 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Don Jr is awesome. He's about to make Greenland Great again. What a guy. Nobody laughing now at the idea Trump is going to conquer Greenland with no shots fired.

And what's even better, is that he's going to commit aggression against a NATO Ally. If the Danish government wants to forestall this from happening, they might want to follow the example of North Korea: become a dictatorship and acquire nuclear weapons. They had just better make sure that their dictator is male, so Trump can swoon into another man crush.

[Lacessit]

11 hours ago, John Drake said:

Personally, I'd prefer some South Sea islands that might let me live cheaper than Thailand. Don't care for Greenland's cold. Come on, Donald, force the French out of Tahiti and take it over, instead.

France is unique in being independent of the USA and Russia w.r.to military equipment. It builds its own submarines and fighter jets.

 

An unlikely scenario, but you should be careful what you wish for.

[bendejo]

14 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

I think he wants the Panama Canal back, probably more useful for the US Navy than any Greenland dreams.......

 

IMO he's doing this Greenland thing for Vlad.