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Posted
37 minutes ago, xylophone said:

It matters not that these "scientists" have been discredited because the posters on ignore are the "poorly educated" (Trump quote) gullible and naive. As proof, they believe in.........

 

-The deep State

-A cabal of Democrats operating from a pizza parlour conducted satanic rituals and drank the blood of babies

-Big Pharma

-Covid was a hoax

-Bill Gates is in collusion with others to control the world

-The Sandy Hook massacre did not occur

-The Covid vaccine can magnetise a person's body

 

And much more nonsense out there which these fools choose to believe in. Sad, so vey sad and unbelievable to sane, normal and rational folk.

 

"Sane, normal and rational folk". You mean Good Germans?

 

In any case, please keep posting, we need a laugh in these heavy times.

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48 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not discredited by me Sir.

 

Nor me, nor any of the "poorly educated fools" who are still miraculously alive and well despite their heresy.

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Posted
10 hours ago, Airalee said:

Dude….even you are posting BS statistics.

 

here….I’ll let you do the homework instead of spoon feeding it to you.

 

Run your Africa death toll numbers (that you posted previously) and get back to us here on the thread.

 

if you aren’t able to do that, and point out where it’s a load of bull…then you can expect some severely mocking posts too.  No personal attacks….just brutal mockery.

 

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Your response confirms what I wrote. "Statistics are being challenged as being manipulated or exaggerated."  And you responded, "even you are posting BS statistics."

jas007 posted wrote, "The excess deaths keep piling up around the world, except in places like Africa, where everything is pretty much business as usual."

I replied, "Africa, 12 1/2 million cases and 258,00 deaths," followed  by a link.

He and another poster questioned the reliability of my link.  So I posted another link with basically the same figures. 

I don't recall you posting a rebuttal to my so called "BS statistics."

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1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Your response confirms what I wrote. "Statistics are being challenged as being manipulated or exaggerated."  And you responded, "even you are posting BS statistics."

jas007 posted wrote, "The excess deaths keep piling up around the world, except in places like Africa, where everything is pretty much business as usual."

I replied, "Africa, 12 1/2 million cases and 258,00 deaths," followed  by a link.

He and another poster questioned the reliability of my link.  So I posted another link with basically the same figures. 

I don't recall you posting a rebuttal to my so called "BS statistics."

258,000 deaths in a population of 1.373 Billion people.

 

Fewer than 1 in 5,000 people died there.

 

I shouldn’t need to say anything else.

 

Business as usual.  Many more people die from diarrhea.

 

Far fewer deaths proportionally compared to western nations and far fewer (as a percentage) of people vaccinated.

 

So as Jas007 alluded to….they did much better than the developed countries.

 

Fancy that.

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41 minutes ago, Airalee said:

258,000 deaths in a population of 1.373 Billion people.

 

Fewer than 1 in 5,000 people died there.

 

I shouldn’t need to say anything else.

 

Business as usual.  Many more people die from diarrhea.

 

Far fewer deaths proportionally compared to western nations and far fewer (as a percentage) of people vaccinated.

 

So as Jas007 alluded to….they did much better than the developed countries.

 

Fancy that.

"I shouldn't need to say anything else."  But you did.  You proved my point. However, I won't say anything else, except for this, GOOD BYE.

Posted
44 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

"I shouldn't need to say anything else."  But you did.  You proved my point. However, I won't say anything else, except for this, GOOD BYE.

LOL.  Boomer meltdown.

 

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Nor me, nor any of the "poorly educated fools" who are still miraculously alive and well despite their heresy.

It’s too bad for the boomer vax fanatics that a judge ordered the FDA to speed up the release of the Pfizer vaccine trial data which is giving us a lot of this juicy data to work with.

 

I’m surprised that the pro-vax people didn’t even know about this wonderful news as it’s almost 3 years old now.   I guess they didn’t see it on the boob tube.  That’s what you get for relying on CNN and MSNBC

 

I guess one needs to be a “poorly educated fool” to dig this stuff up.

 

Why a Judge Ordered FDA to Release Covid-19 Vaccine Data Pronto

 

“In response to a Freedom of Information Act request, the Food and Drug Administration asked a federal judge for permission to make the public wait until the year 2096 to disclose all of the data it relied upon to license Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine. 


That is not a typo. The FDA wanted court approval to have up to 75 years to publicly disclose this information.”

 

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/why-a-judge-ordered-fda-to-release-covid-19-vaccine-data-pronto

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Airalee said:

It’s too bad for the boomer vax fanatics that a judge ordered the FDA to speed up the release of the Pfizer vaccine trial data which is giving us a lot of this juicy data to work with.

 

I’m surprised that the pro-vax people didn’t even know about this wonderful news as it’s almost 3 years old now.   I guess they didn’t see it on the boob tube.  That’s what you get for relying on CNN and MSNBC

 

I guess one needs to be a “poorly educated fool” to dig this stuff up.

 

Why a Judge Ordered FDA to Release Covid-19 Vaccine Data Pronto

 

“In response to a Freedom of Information Act request, the Food and Drug Administration asked a federal judge for permission to make the public wait until the year 2096 to disclose all of the data it relied upon to license Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine. 


That is not a typo. The FDA wanted court approval to have up to 75 years to publicly disclose this information.”

 

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/why-a-judge-ordered-fda-to-release-covid-19-vaccine-data-pronto

 

 

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Here's the judge, Mark T. Pittman, at the initial hearing, to agree a realistic release schedule, speaking to the plaintiff's lawyer, Aaron Siri, concerning the nature of the hearing:

 

"But the real thing I want to consider, let's figure out the best, quickest way to get these documents. And rather than arguing that the Government is trying to hide something or there's some big conspiracy here, that the green alien people want to inject us with something, is not going to be helpful, okay? Let's figure out how do we resolve this, and save the other argument for outside of the courtroom."

 

There's 56 pages of this, so cut to the chase... They did agree, Pfizer, the plaintiffs and the court, on an updated schedule. But I can't find any reference to any reaction to the ongoing release anywhere. The plaintiffs seems to have gone quiet. Who knows?

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52 minutes ago, bradiston said:

 

Here's the judge, Mark T. Pittman, at the initial hearing, to agree a realistic release schedule, speaking to the plaintiff's lawyer, Aaron Siri, concerning the nature of the hearing:

 

"But the real thing I want to consider, let's figure out the best, quickest way to get these documents. And rather than arguing that the Government is trying to hide something or there's some big conspiracy here, that the green alien people want to inject us with something, is not going to be helpful, okay? Let's figure out how do we resolve this, and save the other argument for outside of the courtroom."

 

There's 56 pages of this, so cut to the chase... They did agree, Pfizer, the plaintiffs and the court, on an updated schedule. But I can't find any reference to any reaction to the ongoing release anywhere. The plaintiffs seems to have gone quiet. Who knows?

 

@bradiston > You wrote "But I can't find any reference to any reaction to the ongoing release anywhere. The plaintiffs seems to have gone quiet. Who knows?"

 

The 300.000 Pfizer documents that were released over a 1.5 year period (instead of keeping them buried for 75 years as the FDA wanted) are being investigated by a crowdsourced investigation team led by dr Naomi Wolf.  Obviously you won't find anything about it on the complicit mainstream-media.

But dr Wolf has been continually posting on alternative media about the crimes that are evidenced from Pfizers own documents. 

Actually the very first post on this new sub-forum was about that specific issue. 

See link to post below >

 

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15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

@bradiston > You wrote "But I can't find any reference to any reaction to the ongoing release anywhere. The plaintiffs seems to have gone quiet. Who knows?"

 

The 300.000 Pfizer documents that were released over a 1.5 year period (instead of keeping them buried for 75 years as the FDA wanted) are being investigated by a crowdsourced investigation team led by dr Naomi Wolf.  Obviously you won't find anything about it on the complicit mainstream-media.

But dr Wolf has been continually posting on alternative media about the crimes that are evidenced from Pfizers own documents. 

Actually the very first post on this new sub-forum was about that specific issue. 

See link to post below >

 

Another discredited conspiracy theorist. Why are you guys endlessly citing these old hags as reliable sources of information? No, they're not found on MSM, including Reuters, Bloomberg, The FT, the NYT, the Washington Post etc etc, for good reason. They're rubbish, that's why! You have to look in the sewers and trash cans of discarded has beens to find anything to nibble on. Hope you don't catch any nasty diseases there.

 

And what of the original plaintiffs, the PHMPT?

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On 1/3/2025 at 7:35 AM, bradiston said:

Cherry pick? I've commented several times in this thread. I actually said my comment could be construed as woke, not yours. Belittle you? You mean comment on your derogatory attack on another commentator? Where did I do the same as you?

 

You refer to your own comments repeatly but not the original comments made by others making false claims in similar circular posts.  

 

 You have a great day now

Posted
19 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Please indicate which airlines requested vaccine proof.

What a fool you are, really.

One quick example at random - https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/mhapp/hq/en/important-notice/india.html

 

Maybe you need something explained to you about air travel and airlines. When an airline accepts you for transportation they accept responsibility(!) that YOU are LEGAL to be transported.

Therefore, if the destinatioin of your trip refuses you legal entry - for ANY reason - you are required to be transported back where you came from, by the airline that brought you in.

Airlines don't like carrying passengers free of charge. And on a fully booked flight a fare paying passenger will be off-loaded to carry back the deportee. This is why airlines demand things like vaccination proofs, visas and valid passports you idiot.

 

Now - your turn - tell us about the 'hundreds of thousands' of unvaccinated individuals you 'met' during global lockdowns.

We're waiting with baited breath.

 

Wait ----are you in Africa??

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Posted
14 hours ago, connda said:

Yes, I happen to agree with this, and thanks for highlighting it. The article is dated Jan 3rd, but I found this out MONTHS ago. Its old news. To me anyhow.

 

Anti vaxxers argue mRNA vaccines to be unsafe because they always confuse the cellular functions of 'messenger' RNA (mRNA) with that of RNA. But their misunderstanding/misrepresentation opens their arguments up to ridicule and debunking. The functions are different and if they paused for a while to really research it they'd realise there is a better case to make than their simple hysterics.

 

RNA is used as part of the manufacturing process of Covid vaccine. The RNA is used to create an mRNA antibody template - which does NOT alter your DNA (contrary to their hysterical claims).

But here's the rub - the RNA used in manufacture is supposed to be eliminated from the final product at the end of the process. And as I found out some months ago - and as is explained in the linked article - traces of RNA have been found remaining in vaccine samples. That is very bad, and a risk to the public. I'm glad now that my son didn't receive a Covid vax, and I hope he never gets an mRNA vaccine until the contamination issues are eliminated 100%. The technology itself is a huge leap forward and will ultimately result in one shot cures for major cancers in future.

 

See, while I don't believe in every damn conspiracy theory, I keep an open mind on everything.

 

I've only posted about 4 times on this 15 page thread, and in none of them have I insisted that anyone should be forced to take a vaccine. What I rebel against is the anti-vaxxers 'global conspiracy' trope, and their enthusiam to jump on the wagon with the rest of those nutters - the DUCCT.

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

Yes, I happen to agree with this, and thanks for highlighting it. The article is dated Jan 3rd, but I found this out MONTHS ago. Its old news. To me anyhow.

 

Anti vaxxers argue mRNA vaccines to be unsafe because they always confuse the cellular functions of 'messenger' RNA (mRNA) with that of RNA. But their misunderstanding/misrepresentation opens their arguments up to ridicule and debunking. The functions are different and if they paused for a while to really research it they'd realise there is a better case to make than their simple hysterics.

 

RNA is used as part of the manufacturing process of Covid vaccine. The RNA is used to create an mRNA antibody template - which does NOT alter your DNA (contrary to their hysterical claims).

But here's the rub - the RNA used in manufacture is supposed to be eliminated from the final product at the end of the process. And as I found out some months ago - and as is explained in the linked article - traces of RNA have been found remaining in vaccine samples. That is very bad, and a risk to the public. I'm glad now that my son didn't receive a Covid vax, and I hope he never gets an mRNA vaccine until the contamination issues are eliminated 100%. The technology itself is a huge leap forward and will ultimately result in one shot cures for major cancers in future.

 

See, while I don't believe in every damn conspiracy theory, I keep an open mind on everything.

 

I've only posted about 4 times on this 15 page thread, and in none of them have I insisted that anyone should be forced to take a vaccine. What I rebel against is the anti-vaxxers 'global conspiracy' trope, and their enthusiam to jump on the wagon with the rest of those nutters - the DUCCT.

 

What is "DUCCT"???? And no smart answers that it is a type of tape please😉 Lol.

Posted
15 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Maryanne Demassi is yet another member of the loony anti-vaxer clique:

 

"Now, let’s look at what Maryanne Demasi has to say. I will first, however, note that she recently featured in this very blog because Peter Gøtzsche had teamed up with her, despite her long history of antivaccine propaganda, to write a review article that exaggerated the risks from COVID-19 vaccines."

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And reference to how she lost her job as a presenter in Australia years before the pandemic:

Several years ago, my successful career at the ABC came to a grinding halt after defenders of “scientific consensus” criticised several documentaries I produced, which questioned various medical orthodoxies such as cholesterol-lowering drugs, nutritional guidelines, and the over-prescription of medicines."

One of her reports fear mongered about wifi and cell phone radiation..."

 

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/04/24/antivaxxers-attack-scientific-consensus-as-a-manufactured-construct/

 

 

"Peter Gøtzsche, formerly leader of the Nordic Cochrane Center, has teamed with Maryanne Demasi to write a systematic review of the “harms” of COVID-19 vaccination. Besides accepting the highly dubious methodology behind one study, their preprint is yet another example of how EBM [evidence based medicine] can be corrupted to promote antivax ideas."

 

"I also mention that Maryanne Demasi is not a physician, although she apparently does have a PhD in rheumatology and did work for a decade at the Royal Adelaide Hospital in Australia as a research scientist. After that, she was a TV presenter for a number of years, during which she became known as a statin denier, who falsely claimed that cholesterol and saturated fats do not contribute to heart disease and that therefore statins are ineffective in lowering the risk of cardiovascular disease—and dangerous, to boot. More recently Demasi has aligned herself firmly with the antivaccine movement. She now contributes regularly to the Brownstone Institute and is frequently cited by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s minions at Children’s Health Defense. Her Substack is full of antivax content, including the usual antivax tropes about COVID-19 and masks, and she is a big fan of Dr. Asseem Malhotra."

 

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/04/10/peter-gotzsche-is-now-officially-antivaccine/

 

From the CV you copy-pasted here with the intend to smear her, it sure looks that Maryanne Demasi has the scientific background and credentials to be taken seriously when voicing her arguments. 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

From the CV you copy-pasted here with the intend to smear her, it sure looks that Maryanne Demasi has the scientific background and credentials to be taken seriously when voicing her arguments. 

Please try harder........🙄

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Posted
37 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

The last three sentences are indecipherable. It is also unclear who "we" is in "We're waiting with baited breath", and why certain words are posted in all caps in the text (is that the written equivalent of shouting?).

I’m not so sure if it’s shouting or hyperventilating.

 

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Dan O said:

You refer to your own comments repeatly but not the original comments made by others making false claims in similar circular posts.  

 

 You have a great day now

Yes,  I refer to my comments as you insist on misrepresenting them. As usual, you deflect and deny. You're definitely going round in circles.

Posted
4 hours ago, Flyguy330 said:

What a fool you are, really.

One quick example at random - https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/mhapp/hq/en/important-notice/india.html

 

Maybe you need something explained to you about air travel and airlines. When an airline accepts you for transportation they accept responsibility(!) that YOU are LEGAL to be transported.

Therefore, if the destinatioin of your trip refuses you legal entry - for ANY reason - you are required to be transported back where you came from, by the airline that brought you in.

Airlines don't like carrying passengers free of charge. And on a fully booked flight a fare paying passenger will be off-loaded to carry back the deportee. This is why airlines demand things like vaccination proofs, visas and valid passports you idiot.

 

Now - your turn - tell us about the 'hundreds of thousands' of unvaccinated individuals you 'met' during global lockdowns.

We're waiting with baited breath.

 

Wait ----are you in Africa??

I can add Philippines Airlines and Cebu Pacific.

Posted
15 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Yes,  I refer to my comments as you insist on misrepresenting them. As usual, you deflect and deny. You're definitely going round in circles.

who's deflecting now? I have raised the same issue, you only refer to your comment when you jumped into the conversation but not the original people in the discussion, like I stated multiple times.

 

You tried to claim in a backhanded way the phrase thick is somehow super derogatory, like calling someone a retard. Facts are facts some people are thick headed and refuse to admit when they are wrong they just argue in circles, just like you are doing. I havent misrepresented anything.  Go have some dinner and a nap and youll feel better. Im done discussing your non issue on this conversation. have a good day

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On 1/3/2025 at 11:42 AM, bradiston said:

It works both ways you know.

What does?

On 1/3/2025 at 1:36 PM, scottiejohn said:

Which of your two totally contradictory statements in your post (highlighted) is correct?

First you say "never wore a mask" then you say "panic attack while wearing a mask one day.

I only wore a mask very briefly a few times, then I had a panic attack while being stuck in an opticians for ages.

On 1/3/2025 at 1:33 PM, Flyguy330 said:

I'm fascinated to know how you 'travelled' when mandatory lockdowns were in place everywhere, first at local level, latterly at regional level, and foreign air travel always required vaccine proof.

Hundreds of thousands eh? You sure do get around.

 

Your condescending attitude barely deserves a reply but here goes. I went to the anti lockdown protests in London throughout 2021. There were definitely hundreds of thousands of people protesting. None of us wore masks and anti lockdown people made a point of hugging each other because we all felt starved of human contact.

Not sure who said it but I never mentioned being friends with them all. I made friends with a few people during that time though.

If you were in sat in your room, watching TV, then you won't have been aware of any of that, which is probably why you're mocking it. 

In the spring of 2021, there was an enormous march through London. The TV reported it as a few hundred weirdos. When in fact it was 10s of 1000's of very pissed off working people, who just wanted to get on with their lives. 

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13 minutes ago, SenorTashi said:

it was 10s of 1000's of very pissed off working people, who just wanted to get on with their lives. 

I grabbed some pics for you doubters. I never said I met them all but we were doing this every weekend for months,

while you lot were cowering at home with your masks on. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Dan O said:

who's deflecting now? I have raised the same issue, you only refer to your comment when you jumped into the conversation but not the original people in the discussion, like I stated multiple times.

 

You tried to claim in a backhanded way the phrase thick is somehow super derogatory, like calling someone a retard. Facts are facts some people are thick headed and refuse to admit when they are wrong they just argue in circles, just like you are doing. I havent misrepresented anything.  Go have some dinner and a nap and youll feel better. Im done discussing your non issue on this conversation. have a good day

You see, "Go have some dinner and a nap and you'll feel better". What do you call that? It's presumptuous, patronising, and offensive. You keep signing off then coming back with the same arguments.

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On 12/31/2024 at 3:43 PM, Airalee said:

Yes.  It is gaslighting.  Stating “maybe you didn’t trust it” is a perfect example.

 

Gaslighting is a colloquialism, defined as manipulating someone into questioning their own perception of reality.

Easy for him to reply, which he did.

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