1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Let me refresh your memory of how it was sold...

and don't give me the crappy excuse of 'evolving scientific insights' when they coerced and forced this experimental gen-therapy on everybody.

 

This what Albert Bourla actually said: "No variant identified so far that escapes our vaccine protection".  "Protection" does not mean immunity.  It means protection from serious injury and death.

As for comments from the rest, in my opinion, most didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

Rachel Maddow      Crackpot

Bill Gates                  Unreliable

Joe Biden                   Puppet

Anthony Fauci          Liar

Rochelle Walensky   Fauci Apostle

On 12/29/2024 at 9:26 AM, dinsdale said:

Sadly many on here will not agree. I remember some espousing that injecting the experimental DNA therapy was the only way to go and natural immunity was seen as dis or misinformation. My thinking is that without lockdowns the virus would have evolved faster into what it is now i.e. Omicron a cold or flu like virus that for the vast majority is non-severe. 

Well yea , I did start of as the WUHAN FLU didn't it. .🙏

2 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Well yea , I did start of as the WUHAN FLU didn't it. .🙏

And the Chinese gave it to rest of the world.  Maybe it's payback time.

19 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

All my Jabs in Thailand were free, even, as an Expat, and I did not get COVID, neither did my Thai partner who also was well jabbed.  I have nothing to complain about and assume that the Jabs may have had some hand in us not getting COVID.

Try being positive for once!

I also got all four vaccine shots here in Thailand for free. During the pandemic, my Thai wife tested positive for about a week but had no symptoms. I wore a mask at home and never had any symptoms nor tested positive.

 

If something like this happens again, I will go and get the vaccine shots. 

9 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I also got all four vaccine shots here in Thailand for free. During the pandemic, my Thai wife tested positive for about a week but had no symptoms. I wore a mask at home and never had any symptoms nor tested positive.

 

If something like this happens again, I will go and get the vaccine shots. 

Like getting free insurance.  Why not?

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

One of your more stupid posts. When I was in the military many years ago, I served in some dodgy places and have received jabs for almost every disease under the sun.  I had three Covid jabs and so far haven't been infected. I put this down to taking the advice of medically qualified experts rather than the nomarks on Asean Now Forums. Conspiracy theorists abound on here.

Thank you. Many/most AN members like to ask,/discuss about medical issues instead of asking Google. The world doesn't need doctors anymore apparently. With Google everybody claims to be an expert. Terrible.

21 hours ago, Ohyesuare said:

COVID is over, find something else to obsess about.

 

"Ignore the mistakes of the past and learn nothing from them. 

Just keep repeating them."

 

Couple of bottles of Chang everyday, did the trick for me no vaccines, 

35 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

And the Chinese gave it to rest of the world.  Maybe it's payback time.

You really do need to get up to speed, not that it matters much at this point.  

 

The virus was first concocted in a US Army biological warfare lab at Ft. Dedrick, MD,  The press got wind of what was going on there, and Obama made them knock it off.  At least that was the official story. But they didn't.  Fauci had the project transferred to Wuhan, funded by the NIH.  That was in the late 90s.  Somewhere online, you might still be able to find the payment authorizations from the DOD as early as the late 90s.   Every dollar that's spent is recorded.  And so there's a paper trail.

 

It was all an Army project contracted to the drug companies.  They marketed the stuff, but that's the extent of their involvement, other than to make money, and to act as a decoy. 

 

Fast forward to 2019.  Either by accident or on purpose, the virus was released in China. By early 2020, it was spreading around the world. Remember all the fake videos of people dropping dead on the streets in China? It was all an act. A charade. 

 

In all likelihood, it was part of some sort of New World Order depopulation project.  The virus was mostly harmless.  The jabs would do all the killing. And yes, there are people out there who think the world would be better off with 80% of the people dead. They were planning this for years.  Or some variation.  

 

But they lost control of the narrative.  People woke up.  Mainstream media no longer had a monopoly on the narrative and they failed.  

 

RFK Jr. knows the whole story.  And he's about to be a member of the new administration. 

 

 

21 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

All my Jabs in Thailand were free, even, as an Expat, and I did not get COVID, neither did my Thai partner who also was well jabbed.  I have nothing to complain about and assume that the Jabs may have had some hand in us not getting COVID.

Try being positive for once!

 

21 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

All my Jabs in Thailand were free, even, as an Expat, and I did not get COVID, neither did my Thai partner who also was well jabbed.  I have nothing to complain about and assume that the Jabs may have had some hand in us not getting COVID.

Try being positive for once!

I was the same unfortunately my wife who is considerably younger than me was not able to have the same vaccine until they were commercially available and contracted Covid as did our young daughter who was hospitalized.

Whatever the skeptics believe considering we all lived in the same house and my wife and I sleep together I remained Covid free.

I have been "awake" for years ever since the truth came out about the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the assassination of JFK and Martin Luther King and 9/11 just to mention a few. I will never again trust anything the US government tells me, and I will question every narrative they come out with. When you notice they are "pushing" a narrative and the mass media is parroting that narrative, you can bet your bottom dollar it's a lie.

Did anyone not notice that the number of flu and other viral infections suddenly disappeared when Covid came along. Normally, 100's of thousands of people die each year from the common flu, so it stands to reason that anyone with flu was being labeled as a Covid patient. There never was a so-called Covid pandemic, and nobody was given a vaccine. They were given an experimental gene therapy that destroyed the immune system, and the pharmaceutical companies knew all along that it didn't prevent one from getting the virus, nor did it keep the virus from spreading to others, and it certainly didn't cure anyone. Everyone who died of any co-morbidity issues was labeled a Covid death, and the hospitals were compensated big money for any death that was reported as Covid. It was all a scam!

47 minutes ago, jas007 said:

RFK Jr. knows the whole story.  And he's about to be a member of the new administration. 

Unfortunately!

 

PS;  Who on this earth knows "The whole story"?

He just waffles out of his rear end and is listened to, and given a job, by an even bigger "knows everything" "I am the greatest" moron!

7 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Unfortunately!

 

PS;  Who on this earth knows "The whole story"?

He just waffles out of his rear end and is listened to, and given a job, by an even bigger "knows everything" "I am the greatest" moron!

Let's just say he's not clueless. 

 

I could probably dig through my old emails and find an email to an old friend from a few years ago.  I knew then and I know what this COVID nonsense is all about. .  He didn't listen and thinks I'm "crazy." And now he's dying from an aggressive cancer. His step mother is already dead, as is his sister.  They were all stupid enough to listen to the "authorities."

 

You can think what you want and continue to be another brainwashed person.  Good luck. 

22 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

COVID is over and was close to a fake nothing-burger, but the jabs that people were fooled/coerced/mandated to take in order to 'protect' their health from it are the Gift that Keeps on Giving. 

The whole con is far from over, and I for one am not inclined to 'forgive and forget' because without accountability for this Crime of the Century (including life-long jail and death sentences), these demons will do it again.

And you're alive, maybe, just MAYBE, because you're young and fit, and thanks to precautions other people took, lockdowns, curfews, masks, distancing. I guess you're not in a potentially vulnerable group either? No underlying? Where did you spend COVID? On a beach in Bali? Or in a Mumbai slum? It's ok for the privileged minority to castigate and excoriate the health authorities who were tasked with trying to manage the spread of COVID, and it's consequences, over 7 million directly attributable deaths. That was their job. And if they'd done nothing? You didn't have to watch your father slowly drown as his lungs filled with a fluid, did you?

Seems a lot of people have forgotten the over-a-million that died from Covid in the USA.   And still killing about a thousand people a week in the USA.   MAGA (just without a lot of people who would otherwise be alive and contributing to society.).....  Sigh

 

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

You really do need to get up to speed, not that it matters much at this point.  

 

The virus was first concocted in a US Army biological warfare lab at Ft. Dedrick, MD,  The press got wind of what was going on there, and Obama made them knock it off.  At least that was the official story. But they didn't.  Fauci had the project transferred to Wuhan, funded by the NIH.  That was in the late 90s.  Somewhere online, you might still be able to find the payment authorizations from the DOD as early as the late 90s.   Every dollar that's spent is recorded.  And so there's a paper trail.

 

It was all an Army project contracted to the drug companies.  They marketed the stuff, but that's the extent of their involvement, other than to make money, and to act as a decoy. 

 

Fast forward to 2019.  Either by accident or on purpose, the virus was released in China. By early 2020, it was spreading around the world. Remember all the fake videos of people dropping dead on the streets in China? It was all an act. A charade. 

 

In all likelihood, it was part of some sort of New World Order depopulation project.  The virus was mostly harmless.  The jabs would do all the killing. And yes, there are people out there who think the world would be better off with 80% of the people dead. They were planning this for years.  Or some variation.  

 

But they lost control of the narrative.  People woke up.  Mainstream media no longer had a monopoly on the narrative and they failed.  

 

RFK Jr. knows the whole story.  And he's about to be a member of the new administration. 

 

 

Your post is interesting. The Great Reset. This of course is a conspiracy theory. OR IS IT? One really does have to wonder.

25 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

One really does have to wonder.

Why?

RP and RS ....... if you see my name as "recently browsing" ...well,  I am moving

my head from side to side.  

 

involuntary reaction .

 

 

 

 

no vaccines..  no masks ..    and I don't go to dinners and eat out of the same community bowl that everyone else dips their spoon in 

 

 and  NO COVID !!!

3 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

This what Albert Bourla actually said: "No variant identified so far that escapes our vaccine protection".  "Protection" does not mean immunity.  It means protection from serious injury and death.

As for comments from the rest, in my opinion, most didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

Rachel Maddow      Crackpot

Bill Gates                  Unreliable

Joe Biden                   Puppet

Anthony Fauci          Liar

Rochelle Walensky   Fauci Apostle

 

This is a fitting opportunity to share my favourite Bourla quote:

 

“mRNA was a technology, but we had less experience, only two years working on this, and actually, mRNA was a technology that never delivered a single product until that day, not vaccine, not any other medicine. So it was very counterintuitive, and I was surprised when they suggested to me that this is the way to go, and I questioned it. And I asked them to justify how can you say something like that, but they came, and they were very, very convinced that this is the right way to go."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/washington-post-live/2022/03/10/transcript-wp-subscriber-exclusive-albert-bourla-author-moonshot-inside-pfizers-nine-month-race-make-impossible-possible/

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Your post is interesting. The Great Reset. This of course is a conspiracy theory. OR IS IT? One really does have to wonder.

I'm sure people will call it a "conspiracy theory."  That's OK. That's their mindset and they will cnmtinue to defend the mainstream narrative until they die.  That's how they survive. They obey authority and do what they're told. That's most people.  Propaganda works.  Usually.  That's why the Deep State is so upset about Elon Musk.  He believes in free speech. He spent 44 billion dollars to buy Twitter and restore free speech.  Too late for many people, but there's hope. 

 

Anyway, I've seen enough.  I can think for myself and I have excellent sources of information. I know what I know. At this point, I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

 

 

 

On 12/29/2024 at 5:44 PM, Ohyesuare said:

COVID is over, find something else to obsess about.

I wouldn’t be so sure after I read this re the mRNA vaccines. 
https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/investigating-post-covid-mortality-in-brazillong-term-mortality-risk-nearly-doubles-for-vaccinated-persons-002c9f42

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

This is a fitting opportunity to share my favourite Bourla quote:

 

“mRNA was a technology, but we had less experience, only two years working on this, and actually, mRNA was a technology that never delivered a single product until that day, not vaccine, not any other medicine. So it was very counterintuitive, and I was surprised when they suggested to me that this is the way to go, and I questioned it. And I asked them to justify how can you say something like that, but they came, and they were very, very convinced that this is the right way to go."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/washington-post-live/2022/03/10/transcript-wp-subscriber-exclusive-albert-bourla-author-moonshot-inside-pfizers-nine-month-race-make-impossible-possible/

Actually, they were working on the mRNA technology for a lot longer than two years.  Ten years at least. I think the true figure is more like 20 years.  Back in toe 60s, I took some curses in Microbiology, Medical microbiology, and Medical microbiology lab work.  And they most certainly knew all about it back then. The science has come a long way since then, but the work has been ongoing for years. 

 

COVID came along and they finally had their shot to use it, whether it was safe or not.  

Just now, jas007 said:

Actually, they were working on the mRNA technology for a lot longer than two years.  Ten years at least. I think the true figure is more like 20 years.  Back in toe 60s, I took some curses in Microbiology, Medical microbiology, and Medical microbiology lab work.  And they most certainly knew all about it back then. The science has come a long way since then, but the work has been ongoing for years. 

 

COVID came along and they finally had their shot to use it, whether it was safe or not.  

 

Yes, we all know the sales pitch, but I found it notable that Bourla claimed not to.

7 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Yes, we all know the sales pitch, but I found it notable that Bourla claimed not to.

I wonder why he said that?  Unless he was truly clueless?  That's a possibility, I guess.  

1 minute ago, jas007 said:

I wonder why he said that?  Unless he was truly clueless?  That's a possibility, I guess.  

 

It seemed to be one of those rare moments when truth slips out…

 

As is often the case, Albert is a public-facing figure tasked with doing the dirty work against his will. Another quote from this interview:

 

"So they convinced me. I followed my instinct that they know what they are saying. They are very good, and we made this very difficult decision at that time."

 

I doubt he was in a position to say "no way, guys" and cancel the coordinated rollout. This interview is very interesting as he is essentially saying "I didn't want to do it, but I was forced to, whether I liked it or not"

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

over 7 million directly attributable deaths

LOL.  Yeah…sure

 

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

You didn't have to watch your father slowly drown as his lungs filled with a fluid, did you?

Histrionic appeal to emotion.  🙄

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Your post is interesting. The Great Reset. This of course is a conspiracy theory. OR IS IT? One really does have to wonder.

 

Conspiracy? Yes. Theory? No. Klaus Schwab lays it all out in his book The Great Reset.

 

Covid was a "Tremedous opportunity", he claimed at the time, to basically implement a New World Order which had been planned for decades.

 

Here is one of the many times he informed the plebs of what was decided for them:

 

“The word Reset I think is appropriate”
“We can’t go back to the old normal”
“We will face ‘Black Swan’ events & different kinds of viruses”
“All energy into decarbonisation of the planet”

 

And let's not forget mini-Schwab, his daughter Nicole explaining Climate Lockdowns are coming, whether we like it or not:

 

https://rumble.com/v32qao8-daughter-of-klaus-schwab-admits-covid-tyranny-was-a-precursor-to-coming-cli.html

On 12/29/2024 at 6:18 PM, jas007 said:

Maybe Trump will get the people he wants and we'll all see some justice. 

God, let hope so and the first to go to jail would be Fauci.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

“mRNA was a technology, but we had less experience, only two years working on this, and actually, mRNA was a technology that never delivered a single product until that day, not vaccine, not any other medicine.

 

Nice quote mine.

 

Pfizer only had two years experience researching mRna.

Pfizer never had an mRna product.

 

Flu vaccines were tested in mice in the 90's, rabies vaccines for humans in 2013.

 

But the technology was not sufficiently developed.

 

The first vaccine to be approved in the United States was rVSV-ZEBOV in December 2019.

 

The first mRNA vaccines using these fatty envelopes were developed against the deadly Ebola virus, but since that virus is only found in a limited number of African countries, it had no commercial development in the U.S.