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3 minutes ago, proton said:

These killers are no more suitable as pets than a lion or an alligator, no amount of training can make them harmless. Somebody will be posting, there are no bad dogs only bad owners nonsense, or how their pitty would not hurt a fly, does not stop them being at the top of the dangerous dogs list

Any dog can be dangerous if they aren't trained to be gentle. Pits, along with German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Huskies, Dobermans and Boxers, are all very strong and can cause more damage biting then their smaller counterparts. If you raise a pit from birth to respect people and never be aggressive, they won't know what aggression means. I've known  few pits that were very gentle towards people but would fight other dogs, which is normal. I wouldn't want any large dogs around small children without supervision because any dog can be protective of its food or toys, and if a small child reaches for it, they could provoke an attack. This would happen with any dogs. Again, it;s the possibility of more damage from a stronger dog that's the worry.

 

Some people raise their dogs to be aggressive for no other reasons but ego on their part, and that's wrong. Some are abusive to their dogs, and make them ticking time bombs. The only times I was ever bit was a poodle sized dog in the US and another small dog here. The first because I crossed a line to look at a motorcycle a man was selling, and the dog ripped by pants. The second, here, was a dog I went to pet that bit my hand. It was outside its yard walking around. I have pet countless dogs and this was the only time one bit me, and it was a small dog. This dog was loose, and if it's owner had taught that dog to be friendly, it wouldn't have bitten me.

 

There is a rottweiler that comes to my house that goes after cats, but backs down when I yell at it if it does, or if it goes after other dogs while I'm there. He's a very friendly dog to me and my daughter, and although it has an owner somewhere, runs free like most dogs here. There are bad owners, and many choose these breeds for that reason, and it makes all such breeds look bad. If a dog doesn't know aggression, and is taught to be gentle to humans, it won't use it...............https://www.thehumanesociety.org/debunking-pit-bull-myths/

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3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

True all dogs are dangerous but Pitbulls are the most dangerous and top the list of killers, which is why they are banned in several countries, and need to be in all of them

https://thesmartcanine.com/most-dangerous-dogs/

 

 in the 1990’s, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) decided to examine the data on these attacks.

They discovered that the Pit Bull was the most dangerous breed in the United States (between 1979 to 1996). In fact, Pit Bulls were involved in 60 fatal incidents

 

 

I know about the stats but this dog is bred to hurt people, to be aggressive, for a few reasons, mostly the ego of some owners who feel the need to have such a dog. You can breed any dog to hurt people. It's just that pits are very strong and hard to control when they are bred this way. In this instance, the police should put these dogs down before they kill someone, which could easily happen, especially being in a pack attitude, and I love dogs myself. It's become the most dangerous breed because of people. If there weren't any Pits or Rottweilers, some humans would breed German Shepherds and Dobermans to attack others, which some already do. Police and Military dogs aside, which are highly trained and won't attack just anyone.

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1 hour ago, Georgealbert said:

Officers were unable to intervene immediately as the dogs turned on them as well.

So they were unarmed?

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1 hour ago, flyingtlger said:

Sounds like the dogs were just doing their job.....

 

I watched this on the morning news.

 

Looks like the dog owner wasn't doing her job.

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I was attacked by a Pitbull once. I was walking with a cane that had a brass horses head handle. It took many hard whacks on the nose before he decided he had enough and backed off. He went after my ancles and since I was wearing boots I was OK. You wouldn't stand a chance against four.

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1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

"a hose" 🤔

 

This tells me all I need to know. Spraying water is the traditional Thai way to stop dogs fighting or at least distract them. It is in no way sufficient when a pack of 4 pitbulls is mauling a victim. This owner is completely unsuitable to own 1 pitbull never mind 4. What in her brainless mind convinced her it was a good idea to own such a pack of dogs.

 

Also not clear, but it sounds from the story that the house is not securely gated. If so, these dogs could come out and attack anyone, such as a small child, any time.

 

Finally all the police carry guns. I think this was a justifiable occasion to use them. A man's live was definitely at risk. He may well be permanently disabled from the injuries. They chose not to.

 

 

The video was on the morning news. These dogs were somehow outside of the owner's front gate and the attack was in what appears to be a spirit house shop adjoining the home. Maybe the owners business which is open to the street.

 

The owner wasn't using the hose to spray the dogs with water, she was weakly using the hose as a useless whip to try and beat the dogs or ward them off.

 

Later, after the victim is in the back of the pickup getting emergency treatment, the owner can be seen leading some of the dogs back to the house. They go through the gate that she closes behind them. One dog appears to stay outside, stalking anyone on foot and approaching scooters on the road.

 

1 hour ago, proton said:

These killers are no more suitable as pets than a lion or an alligator, no amount of training can make them harmless. Somebody will be posting, there are no bad dogs only bad owners nonsense, or how their pitty would not hurt a fly, does not stop them being at the top of the dangerous dogs list

 

This is definitely a case of a bad dog owner. If they ever turned on her, she would be dead in a heartbeat, but she probably thinks they're her friends.

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2 minutes ago, proton said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another usual dog excuse- it was the victims fault, dog was provoked etc, it's always the dogs fault PItbulls are bred for violence the same as XL Bullies, that's the main reason people want them.

 

Dogs are predators and therefore violent by nature, same as we are. It's just the bulldog varieties have a lot of muscle and big jaws so they are harder to fend off than most other breeds of dogs. 

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2 minutes ago, JoePai said:

Including the owners 

 Sure why not. (oops, Sorley, I was aiming at the dogs)

Obviously she's a P.O.S

 

 

 

 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

So ban them all, eradicate these breeds.

 

I love cats, sophisticated people love cats. I can have conversations with cats, dogs only want to bring backs sticks.

Cats don't usually reciprocate the amount of affection a dog does. yes, at times they are affectionate and want to cuddle and be pet, but a lot of the time they are aloof and want to be left alone. rarely does a dog exhibit this behavior. This is why they are often compared to women. They want to have attention, but when you give them too much, they walk away so to speak. A dog is known as the most loyal of animals, and this has proven to be true. As far as dogs only wanting to bring back sticks, that's what to expect if that's all they're trained to do. As anyone can see, dogs have saved thousands of lives by their training and intelligence. A dog will try and alert their owner if there's a fire in the house, and help them get out. A cat will run for the hills never looking back. As far as banning any breeds, again it's the owners responsibility to treat them well and instill kindness in them. You abuse any creature it will turn on you.

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27 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

The video was on the morning news. These dogs were somehow outside of the owner's front gate and the attack was in what appears to be a spirit house shop adjoining the home. Maybe the owners business which is open to the street.

 

The owner wasn't using the hose to spray the dogs with water, she was weakly using the hose as a useless whip to try and beat the dogs or ward them off.

 

Later, after the victim is in the back of the pickup getting emergency treatment, the owner can be seen leading some of the dogs back to the house. They go through the gate that she closes behind them. One dog appears to stay outside, stalking anyone on foot and approaching scooters on the road.

 

 

This is definitely a case of a bad dog owner. If they ever turned on her, she would be dead in a heartbeat, but she probably thinks they're her friends.

Right, and the way she was using that hose shows how she treats them. No training, and expect them to obey when you beat them. Much the way some children are raised. You do what I say or you get hurt, instead of explaining why bad behavior isn't tolerated, they say the child is bad and needs to be abused into submission by hitting, and many, especially here from what I've seen, use sticks and other weapons to "train" their children. Instead of teaching the dogs to be gentle, they aren't patient or care enough to train them, and when the dog does something wrong, out comes the weapon to "train" them to listen. This teaches both animals and children that hitting is the way to teach, instead of reasoning. You can make a poodle a vicious animals and I've seen this many times in small dogs who are absolutely mean, and the opposite in 100 pound dogs who are as gentle as a lamb.

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2 hours ago, Briggsy said:

"a hose" 🤔

 

This tells me all I need to know. Spraying water is the traditional Thai way to stop dogs fighting or at least distract them. It is in no way sufficient when a pack of 4 pitbulls is mauling a victim.

Go watch the video. The woman owner didn't spray the dogs with water. She hit them with it.

 

2 hours ago, Briggsy said:

Finally all the police carry guns. I think this was a justifiable occasion to use them.

No it wasn't if the victim was in a position whereby he could have been shot and killed..

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1 hour ago, The Old Bull said:

Dogs are honest, cats are sly sneaky things.

Dogs are Republicans, while cats have all the sophistication of Democrats, you can't understand them, that's why you think they are "sneaky".

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2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Any dog can be dangerous if they aren't trained to be gentle.

 

Pitt Bull type dogs are bred to fight, are more aggressive and do more damage than other dogs.  There is a reason they attack people more than any other breed.

 

They should be banned, as the owner really doesn't make that much difference.

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1 hour ago, Ben Zioner said:

So ban them all, eradicate these breeds.

Why don't we kill all humans at the same time.

 

Humans (Homo sapiens) are one of the world's most dangerous land mammals. A 2019 report by WHO recorded 475,000 deaths by homicide globally in member states. Central America and the Caribbean reported the highest murder rates, with over half of deaths caused by a firearm. Violence-related injuries, which can encompass traffic collisions and suicide, kill 1.25 million annually, according to

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