Elon Musk and JD Vance Spark Controversy with Support for Germany’s Far-Right AfD

[Neeranam]

6 minutes ago, Centigrade32 said:

 

You are just baiting and not really making any sense. It's sad, because that IS an underlying cause of polarisation. Us and them, when really they are you.

I am not. 

I think the main reasons are social media where people only get access to news that aligns with their existing beliefs. Dems believe all the nonsense they hear on CNN and Reps believe all the nonsense they hear on Fox.  Also voters identify strongly with their party's policies when in fact they might have other thoughts on them, esp immigration, LGBT, guns, climate change.

[Centigrade32]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

I am not. 

I think the main reasons are social media where people only get access to news that aligns with their existing beliefs. Dems believe all the nonsense they hear on CNN and Reps believe all the nonsense they hear on Fox.  Also voters identify strongly with their party's policies when in fact they might have other thoughts on them, esp immigration, LGBT, guns, climate change.

 

You've changed your tune somewhat.

You were just insisting that polarisation came from "sore losers"...which is obviously nonsense.

Whereas now it's the fault of social media and CNN/FOX and your comments are more balanced.

It's all just different pigs at the same trough getting richer and richer whilst the rest just scrabble for the scraps....and pathetically idolising the people who are raping them.

 

 

 

[Neeranam]

 

I would support the German far right too - preservation of German culture, sausages and all that leather short dancing . Seriously, Protectionism is essential to protect the economy. They are letting too many immigrants in, especially Asians now.  

I hope they support the British far right too. Some people see Nationalism as Fascism which it is of course, not. 

As a Brit, I'm saddened by the loss of British cultural identity in the UK, especially due to the Muslim 'invasion', which has caused social fragmentation, with some communities remaining culturally isolated and resistant to integration. I recently stayed in IBIS Whitechappel and thought I was in Bangladesh, which is the least favourite place I've ever been.

 

As a Thai, I'm proud of what Paw Piboonsongkhram started, which was copied from the fashionable  Nationalism in Europe in the late 1920s/early30s. He was responsible for the invention of Phad Tai(noodles of the people) developed to stop Thais buying Chinese noodles. Thailand has kept its cultural identity due to 'far right' policies such as foreigners can't buy land. Lessons were learned with the Chinese 'invasion' 100 odd years ago and that will not be allowed to happen again.

 

The UK, US, and Germany could learn a lot from Thai immigration policy.

 

As for the US, it's old enough now to have a cultural identity, and therefore must be preserved. Stopping the illegal  immigration is a priority, where the last government totally failed and was a big reason they were not reelected.

 

[MRMOUSE]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

What about opposing Germany's economic collapse?

 

What happened to the pipeline than transported Russian gas?

[Neeranam]

20 minutes ago, Centigrade32 said:

 

You've changed your tune somewhat.

You were just insisting that polarisation came from "sore losers"...which is obviously nonsense.

Whereas now it's the fault of social media and CNN/FOX and your comments are more balanced.

It's all just different pigs at the same trough getting richer and richer whilst the rest just scrabble for the scraps....and pathetically idolising the people who are raping them.

 

 

 

TBH, I misread the thing I quoted. 

[mikebike]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Polarisation is caused by the media who demonise . anyone not on the establishment side.

In particular the US MSM, but the rest just copy n paste their stories.

And the poster above is a classic example of that polarisation in action!!

No. The polarisation is caused by extreme ideologies. The majority of folks are in the middle and just get on with living. The political extremes yell at each other on social media and that is what is reported.

[Neeranam]

11 minutes ago, mikebike said:

No. The polarisation is caused by extreme ideologies. The majority of folks are in the middle and just get on with living. The political extremes yell at each other on social media and that is what is reported.

Can you give an example of one extreme ideology? 

[chercheur888]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Sounds strange. He's not African American or is he? 

Born in South Africa, which makes him an African if he likes it or not

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, Centigrade32 said:

 

I don't take any notice of them. Do you?

 The OP stated 'a polarised world' to which I added my opinion as to part of the cause. One only has to look back to COVID as an example to see how the media divided people.

 

Either you took the vaccine or you were a Granny killing Nazi.

 

 

 

[Centigrade32]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 The OP stated 'a polarised world' to which I added my opinion as to part of the cause. One only has to look back to COVID as an example to see how the media divided people.

 

Either you took the vaccine or you were a Granny killing Nazi.

 

 

 

 

In your mind. I was more concerned about the rules being imposed on me. Social Media and "MSM'' had no effect on me whatsoever.

I didn't accept any vaccine.

[BarBoy]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Opposing fascism is not far left.

Isn't that the same excuse Putin made when he invaded Ukraine?

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, BarBoy said:

Isn't that the same excuse Putin made when he invaded Ukraine?

 

You believe Putin?

[mokwit]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You believe Putin?

More then the Western MSM. Recently a BBC correspondent asked him a question at a press briefing in Russia. The microphone handler looked quizzically at Putin and he said, "Give him the mic, it's been a long time since the BBC was present at a briefing, I'll answer his question", and he did. He explained Russia's position.

[riclag]

4 hours ago, mdr224 said:

Would be good if everyone were from USA. Too many dumb european opinions on american politics here, wasting space on what could be meaningful discussion

Thats affirmative !

 

They have no sense of democracy, freedom of speech! They let globalists bureaucrats dictate their existence.

 

These 3 have stopped the evil progressive world agenda !

[mokwit]

Is the AfD a "Far Right" party?

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

More then the Western MSM. Recently a BBC correspondent asked him a question at a press briefing in Russia. The microphone handler looked quizzically at Putin and he said, Give him the mic, it's been a long time since the BBC was present at a briefing, I'll answer his question, and he did.

Brilliantly referenced!

[deadbeat]

Can't wait to see Starmer getting cosy with Alice.

[BusyB]

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

AfD is most popular in the same areas of Germany that were most resistant to the Nazis.”

 

Simply another lie - whether out of ignorance or intent, who knows. Neither Musk nor Vance are exactly intellectual heavyweights.

 

The Nazi's were first ever elected as regional government back in the early 30s in Thuringia. Exactly where they are doing so well now in eastern Germany.

 

It is important to know that historically this is also a culturally different part of Germany, which was never even in history very close to 'western Germany', and exceptionally conservative. It was closer to eastern and Central Europe like the Balkans. But I can't be bothered to go any further into history for those who don't even understand the current basics.

 

The Thuringia AfD is led by someone who constantly spouts brownshirt and racist filth to stir up division and hatred, and is a deeply sinister character who tries to rewrite history (as the Trumpists do regarding the tour group to the Capitol on J6). Yeah, go on. Tell me about free speech. You lot have no concept.

 

If it quacks like a brownshirt and waddles like a brownshirt, it most probably is a brownshirt. Nowadays they don't wear brown shirts because they've gone out of fashion for one reason or another. So in the US they wear red caps. The black uniforms don't go down so well today either but the same types lurk behind Trump and Vance. It won't be long before the magaloons will be squealing 'It wasn't meant to be like this!'.

 

Listen to the vocabulary, the rhetoric and watch the strategy. At least the Germans managed to jail Hitler for his failed insurrection.

 

Fortunately the Germans are more intelligent than the Americans and also have a more genuinely democratic and less corruptible electoral system. The AfD doesn't have the slightest chance of providing the chancellor or President or any other national minister. They will never get a majority. Unlike in the US.

 

Musk hates the EU because it is the only entity currently big enough and willing to stand up to his irresponsible and immature behavior and business plan. The same applies to the others in the US like Trump and the other US oligarchs. Whom the publis flock to and worship there.

 

Most Germans don't. Deal with it.

[pacovl46]

Well, if that's your stance on the AFD then you clearly have no idea what the eff you're talking about! 

[Globalres]

5 hours ago, Centigrade32 said:

 

That backfired pretty quickly didn't it? Positive responses to my post and none to yours.

It's just you looking for an argument....in your head.

What I wrote makes perfect sense and has nothing to do with politics or taking sides. You, in your mind, decided to practice polarisation.

It takes place in our minds. 

Where did the "Vote Biden 2024" come from? Your mind. It didn't occur to me at all. You want to blame MSM for your thinking?

 

How does “brainwashing” work?

[mokwit]

27 minutes ago, BusyB said:

he Thuringia AfD is led by someone who constantly spouts brownshirt and racist filth

Is being anti mass unvetted immigration racist? Maybe Germany should have been more "racist" when Merkel opened the borders in which case Germans who are dead would still be alive and women would not be dealing with the aftermath of rape.

 

As for 'brownshirt...filth' can you give me some examples of things he has said that are unequivocally "brown shirt".

[Neeranam]

5 hours ago, deadbeat said:

Can't wait to see Starmer getting cosy with Alice.

Alice, who the **** is Alice?

[pub2022]

Everything that doesn't follow the main stream narrative is far-right.

[impulse]

23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Fascism is never the solution. Did you miss HISTORY class?

 

I do remember my history.  And labeling anyone who doesn't agree with you a "fascist" doesn't work any better than looking for commies under every rock did back in the McCarthy era.

 

Quick question...  What was Germany's GDP growth in 2024?  Can you see where there may be calls for a change?

 

[stevenl]

The VP elect and the person selected by the president elect to lead one of his top priorities should refrain from these type of comments.

[Yellowtail]

Anyone right of Stalin is a right wing extremist