New Regulation Bans E-cigarettes, Hookahs for Students

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The cabinet has approved a new rule barring students from using e-cigarettes, hookahs, and psychotropic substances. Initiated by the Ministry of Education, the regulation outlines specific consequences for students caught using these items.

 

Firstly, students will receive a warning. A second offense will lead to probation, deductions in behavioral scores, and participation in corrective activities.

 

 

Education Minister Permpoon Chidchob has highlighted the challenge in seizing such items, noting the Ministry's lack of authority in doing so. He calls on police and relevant authorities to confiscate these substances, many of which are reportedly smuggled into the country.

 

-- 2025-01-07

 

 

[Patong2021]

It would be far more effective if  an effort was invested in explaining why they should not use the product. It worked in respect to cigarettes, so why not stick to something that works with most people?

[ikke1959]

So what are they going to do? Many are vaping on the street, even policemen, government officials, guards, and many others.. How can you forbid something that is out of control already. looks the same as the law to wear a helmet. A foreigner is finef, the Thai can do

[Tropicalevo]

Great publicity. Well done PR team.

The punishments are laughable and there is zero policing so nothing will change.

[MikeandDow]

They expect the RTP to seizing such items,  good luck with that !!!! All this goverment is just full of hot air nothing will change

[rumeaug]

so what about non-students the same age brackets?

[hotchilli]

47 minutes ago, rumeaug said:

so what about non-students the same age brackets?

Nothing to worry about.

[black tabby12345]

Ban by the New Regulation.

One thing that never turns out as it is stated.

Prostitution in Thailand is illegal.

But in every major cities Quite Openly...

It tells us all.

[black tabby12345]

Do the cops start to stop  every  E-smoking young man/woman in their late-teen to early 20s for the ID inspection?

 

Do they ever check riders' age when a seemingly a junior-hi boys/girls are on motorcycles?

 

With or Without Ban, business as usual here, Mai Pen Rai...

[black tabby12345]

53 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Nothing to worry about.

 

Simply Unenforceable.

Just like under 15 motorcycle riders.

[stubuzz]

I thought they were already illegal for everybody?

[dinsdale]

1^st what aged students are we talking about? Surely not university and college aged students. As for school aged students they're more than likely not vaping at school and the BIB won't do anything so this whole thing IMHO is a complete nonsense. 

[Donga]

17 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

It would be far more effective if  an effort was invested in explaining why they should not use the product. It worked in respect to cigarettes, so why not stick to something that works with most people?

They haven't got enough convincing data yet. But they could raise scare campaigns I suppose.

There are studies that purport to show harm, but they are rather spurious in their findings, e.g. talk about ingredients that are no longer used in their manufacture. Then there's the red herring about Big Tobacco when most of them are made by Chinese or other Asian companies. There are respiratory concerns and people with asthma probably shouldn't partake, but then if they're smoking cigarettes, whose to say which is worse for them?

There are UK studies that show cigarettes smokers are better off switching to vapes.

From UK Cancer Society... There is no good evidence that vaping causes cancer. But e-cigarettes are not risk-free. They can cause side effects such as throat and mouth irritation, headache, cough and feeling sick. These side effects tend to reduce over time with continued use.

No doubt they shouldn't be marketed or available to children or teens and suggest in countries where alcohol is controlled fairly well in bottle shops, that the same to apply for vapes.

My path would be to have them available, regulated and taxed.

[Patong2021]

34 minutes ago, Donga said:

They haven't got enough convincing data yet. But they could raise scare campaigns I suppose.

There are studies that purport to show harm, but they are rather spurious in their findings, e.g. talk about ingredients that are no longer used in their manufacture. Then there's the red herring about Big Tobacco when most of them are made by Chinese or other Asian companies. There are respiratory concerns and people with asthma probably shouldn't partake, but then if they're smoking cigarettes, whose to say which is worse for them?

There are UK studies that show cigarettes smokers are better off switching to vapes.

From UK Cancer Society... There is no good evidence that vaping causes cancer. But e-cigarettes are not risk-free. They can cause side effects such as throat and mouth irritation, headache, cough and feeling sick. These side effects tend to reduce over time with continued use.

No doubt they shouldn't be marketed or available to children or teens and suggest in countries where alcohol is controlled fairly well in bottle shops, that the same to apply for vapes.

My path would be to have them available, regulated and taxed.

 Much if not all of the vape products available in Thailand are unsupervised and unregulated: No one knows for sure what is in the products often  produced by questionable facilities..  Propylene glycol and glycerol often feature. Formaldehyde, acetaldehyde and acrolein, known carcinogenics,  also feature.  We also know that vape products  rely on;

-Nicotine, a highly addictive chemical that can harm adolescent brain development.

- Can contain unsafe levels of  heavy metals such as nickel, tin, and lead.

- Silica and other particles that can be inhaled deep into the lungs.

- VOCs (Volatile organic compounds)

 

It truly puzzles me how some foreigners will extol the virtues and "safety" of vaping without any knowledge of  the ingredients contained in the product being ingested.  

https://hub.jhu.edu/2021/10/07/vaping-unknown-chemicals/

 

In respect to the purported less harmful effect of vaping compared to tobacco, those statements have since been walked back or retracted by health authorities. Sure, vaping appears to be less harmful than smoking. However,it still presents a health risk for  developing bodies.

[Donga]

24 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 Much if not all of the vape products available in Thailand are unsupervised and unregulated: No one knows for sure what is in the products often  produced by questionable facilities..  Propylene glycol and glycerol often feature. Formaldehyde, acetaldehyde and acrolein, known carcinogenics,  also feature.  We also know that vape products  rely on;

-Nicotine, a highly addictive chemical that can harm adolescent brain development.

- Can contain unsafe levels of  heavy metals such as nickel, tin, and lead.

- Silica and other particles that can be inhaled deep into the lungs.

- VOCs (Volatile organic compounds)

 

It truly puzzles me how some foreigners will extol the virtues and "safety" of vaping without any knowledge of  the ingredients contained in the product being ingested.  

https://hub.jhu.edu/2021/10/07/vaping-unknown-chemicals/

 

In respect to the purported less harmful effect of vaping compared to tobacco, those statements have since been walked back or retracted by health authorities. Sure, vaping appears to be less harmful than smoking. However,it still presents a health risk for  developing bodies.

Thanks Patong - As stated, the studies tend to exaggerate the harmful ingredients, and if you look around the websites of the manufacturers the most alarming substances are not used now.

Agree they should be tightly regulated and the FDA leads in this regard.. https://www.fda.gov/tobacco-products/products-ingredients-components/e-cigarettes-vapes-and-other-electronic-nicotine-delivery-systems-ends

This recent paper explains the benefits and risks of vaping... https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/feb/most-smokers-wrongly-believe-vaping-least-harmful-smoking and fair to say the media has fallen into line with the anti-vape sentiment.

No walking away from fact that nicotine is certainly addictive, and at a high dosage is harmful. As is alcohol. Every effort should be made to keep the under aged from access.

I stand by my view that vapes, being free of carcinogenic tobacco, are less harmful than cigarettes and have their place in a well regulated system.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, stubuzz said:

I thought they were already illegal for everybody?

Illegal-ish...

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Donga said:

They haven't got enough convincing data yet. But they could raise scare campaigns I suppose.

There are studies that purport to show harm, but they are rather spurious in their findings, e.g. talk about ingredients that are no longer used in their manufacture. Then there's the red herring about Big Tobacco when most of them are made by Chinese or other Asian companies. There are respiratory concerns and people with asthma probably shouldn't partake, but then if they're smoking cigarettes, whose to say which is worse for them?

There are UK studies that show cigarettes smokers are better off switching to vapes.

From UK Cancer Society... There is no good evidence that vaping causes cancer. But e-cigarettes are not risk-free. They can cause side effects such as throat and mouth irritation, headache, cough and feeling sick. These side effects tend to reduce over time with continued use.

No doubt they shouldn't be marketed or available to children or teens and suggest in countries where alcohol is controlled fairly well in bottle shops, that the same to apply for vapes.

My path would be to have them available, regulated and taxed.

Nicotine is not good for the body as it has inflammatory properties and the chemical cocktail to make the juice surely can't be good for the body BUT better than cigs. 

[redwood1]

2 hours ago, stubuzz said:

I thought they were already illegal for everybody?

 

This must be about the 5th or 6th or 7th time E-cigs have been banned in one form or another......Every year or 2 they get banned again...

 

As if the last 5 or 6 or 7  bannings did not happen or have any meaning.....

 

Bans on top of bans yet E-cigs are everywhere... 

[MikeandDow]

All these bans mean nothing !!! who is going to enforce this ?? the RTP ?? the RTP is a joke!!! the goverment is full of hot air

[kingstonkid]

9 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Great publicity. Well done PR team.

The punishments are laughable and there is zero policing so nothing will change.

 

First teacher to do something will be charged with a crime by the students,  

 

If students are caught vaping, then the school should have the legal right to remove the E-cig from the student.  If I follow the law then any student that is caught smoking Mary Jane or yaba can not have it confiscated from them