Social Media Posted January 10 Posted January 10 A significant majority of Britons favor a fresh national inquiry into the grooming gangs scandal, according to a recent YouGov survey. The poll reveals that more than three-quarters of the public support calls for a thorough investigation, escalating pressure on political leaders to address the issue comprehensively. The survey, commissioned by the Women’s Policy Centre, found that 76 percent of respondents advocate for a new inquiry into the systemic sexual abuse of children by grooming gangs. This sentiment transcends political affiliations, with nearly two-thirds of Labour voters, 84 percent of Conservative supporters, and a striking 91 percent of Reform party backers expressing support. In contrast, only 13 percent of adults agree with the Government’s stance that no further investigation is necessary. Among Labour voters, just one in five shares this view, signaling a disconnect between party leadership and its base. The poll’s findings emerge amidst a heated political debate on being explicit regards the ethnicity of the majority of these gangs and why they were hidden and concealed as a result. Labour MPs recently opposed a Conservative proposal in the House of Commons aimed at initiating a national inquiry. This opposition comes despite mounting calls for action, including vocal advocacy from Andy Burnham, the Labour Mayor of Greater Manchester. Burnham has urged the Government to consider a “limited national inquiry” to address the issue. However, his appeals have been met with resistance from senior Labour figures, including Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy. “I wouldn’t of course ever rule out any further inquiries at all,” she told Sky News, but maintained her opposition to Burnham’s suggestion. Meanwhile, Labour veteran Baroness Harriet Harman has proposed a targeted approach, suggesting a “mini-inquiry” to examine how council workers and police can better handle race and ethnicity-related challenges. She highlighted the challenges faced by individuals such as Ann Cryer, a former Labour MP, who faced accusations of racism when addressing sensitive issues like forced marriage and grooming gangs. “The question is how people actually deal with this,” Baroness Harman said, emphasizing the need for nuanced solutions. The issue has also gained attention outside traditional political circles. Tech billionaire Elon Musk, a prominent figure on social media platform X, has repeatedly spotlighted the scandal, intensifying public discourse. Paola Diana, chair of the Women’s Policy Centre, emphasized the urgency of the matter. She stated, “The poll proves the demands for a fresh inquiry are a national issue of huge concern.” The widespread public support underscores the need for a comprehensive response, one that addresses past failures while ensuring systemic changes to prevent future abuses. As the debate continues, the Government faces growing pressure to heed the overwhelming public demand for accountability and reform. The question remains whether political leaders can align their actions with the public’s expectations to address this deeply troubling issue. Based on a report by Daily Telegraph 2024-01-11 Related Topics: Politicians Must Address the Ethnicity of Grooming Gangs, Says Whistleblower’s Aide Grooming Networks Persist in Oxford, Warns Former Investigator Convicted Rochdale Grooming Gang Leader Still in the Town & not Deported Starmer Condemns 'Lies and Misinformation' Over Child Sexual Abuse UK Ex-MP Claims Grooming Gang Ethnicity Was Suppressed to Protect Votes Elon Musk Advocates for Tommy Robinson’s Release Amid Criticism of UK Leadership Kemi Badenoch Urges National Inquiry into UK Grooming Scandal 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Social Media said: The poll’s findings emerge amidst a heated political debate. Labour MPs recently opposed a Conservative proposal in the House of Commons aimed at initiating a national inquiry. And very rightly so. The Tory ‘proposal’ was an attempt to block the Children's Welfare and Schools Bill. The Bill has now passed its second reading which implements many of the protections and policies recommended by the first inquiry that the Tories ignored and failed to act upon. The call for a second inquiry can now be presented in Parliament without risking blocking the protections for children in the Children’s Welfare and schools Bill. 2 3 2 1 1 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And very rightly so. The Tory ‘proposal’ was an attempt to block the Children's Welfare and Schools Bill. The Bill has now passed its second reading which implements many of the protections and policies recommended by the first inquiry that the Tories ignored and failed to act upon. The call for a second inquiry can now be presented in Parliament without risking blocking the protections for children in the Children’s Welfare and schools Bill. Yawn, already addressed with you and false. Stop the spreading of misinformation. There is no risk and never has been to the Children’s Welfare and schools Bill. 4 1 6 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Social Media said: A significant majority of Britons favor a fresh national inquiry into the grooming gangs scandal, Does that mean a significant majority of Britons are now far right? Wasn't that the accusation levied against those that were wanting this? 6 1 3 6
Popular Post simon43 Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 No second inquiry will ever happen because the accused/convicted are Muslim. That is a 'get out of jail/don't go to jail/nothing to see here' card in the UK.... All we can hope for is vigilante justice. 2 2 6 2 1 4 9
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 48 minutes ago, simon43 said: No second inquiry will ever happen because the accused/convicted are Muslim. That is a 'get out of jail/don't go to jail/nothing to see here' card in the UK.... All we can hope for is vigilante justice. A disgusting comment calling for vigilante justice. The means to achieve a second inquiry is to present a bill calling for a second inquiry in Parliament. Any MP can raise a Private Members Bill, any party can raise a party sponsored Bill. To date non have done so. 7 2 3 2
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 Difficult to allow a national inquiry into something you're trying to make quietly disappear... 😬 Pretty shameful, tbh. 1 1 9
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: And very rightly so. Don't you ever get tired of your warped political leanings meaning you want people to suffer pretty much all the time? 1 1 1 9
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: A disgusting comment calling for vigilante justice He didn't call for it he said he hoped it happened. Big difference. I hope it doesn't happen. It will provide Starmer another opportunity to deflect from the real issues and also to create more political prisoners. I do fear Starmer is creating an environment where it is almost inevitable. When the system is so obviously stacked against you people get very angry. Especially when it involves the systemic covering up the rape of children. 4 1 2 3
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: A disgusting comment calling for vigilante justice. The means to achieve a second inquiry is to present a bill calling for a second inquiry in Parliament. Any MP can raise a Private Members Bill, any party can raise a party sponsored Bill. To date non have done so. If you were a parent of one of these terribly abused girls or one of the girls themselves who had zero justice because it was deliberately covered up by politicians, the police or social services then all it does is open the door for them to get vigilante justice. The rest of your post is pure deflection to the topic and the reality of getting the required votes. 4 1 8
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 Here we go: Limited inquiries, mini inquiries, nuanced solutions ... What we need is a bold, effective campaign by independent journalism to ask pertinent, specific and yes, potentially politically dangerous questions ( for both parties) to blow the covers off the establishments actions. Similar perhaps to the MPs expense scandal some 15 years ago. We cannot rely upon our publicly funded broadcasters, so it needs to be the independent press. Otherwise we will find - to paraphrase Rod Liddle - a publicly funded government inquiry, led by an establishment "ass" which will eventually, effectively,do it's job and whitewash the reasons for the outrage, and cement the cover up. 1 2
Popular Post Social Media Posted January 11 Author Popular Post Posted January 11 Off topic post removed about immigrants in Thailand @Neeranam . Please refer to the OP for the topic and no further attempts to derail it. 2 1 3
Popular Post The Cyclist Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, Neeranam said: What I find rather ironic is that the some British guys here who are anti-immigration What I find ironic, and rather amazing, that people can conflate grooming gangs with being anti-immigration. I also find it ironic, and rather amazing, that people can conflate immigration with illegal immigration. I also find it ironic, and rather amazing, that people, which includes the utter bellthronk that is the current UK PM, can accuse, the victims, of all people, as being Right Wing. 3 1 1 3 6
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 1 hour ago, BangkokReady said: Don't you ever get tired of your warped political leanings meaning you want people to suffer pretty much all the time? Do you ever get tired of quoting out of context? My full post that you cropped torpedoes your ridiculous and baseless assertion. Which almost certainly why you cropped my post to remove context. 2 2 1 2
Chomper Higgot Posted January 11 Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: What I find ironic, and rather amazing, that people can conflate grooming gangs with being anti-immigration. I also find it ironic, and rather amazing, that people can conflate immigration with illegal immigration. I also find it ironic, and rather amazing, that people, which includes the utter bellthronk that is the current UK PM, can accuse, the victims, of all people, as being Right Wing. I think marrying a basic understanding of Venn diagrams to members posting history might help you overcome your irony. 3 3 1
Popular Post The Cyclist Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I think marrying a basic understanding of Venn diagrams to members posting history might help you overcome your irony. Do you really ? Do you think I care one iota what you think. Venn diagram or no Venn diagram ? 1 1 4 3 3
MalcolmB Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I think a big part of this is the way we raise girls these days in the UK. Feminists have taken over the narrative and are living in dreamworld. Our young girls are sitting ducks for these perverts. 2 1 2
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: A disgusting comment calling for vigilante justice. The means to achieve a second inquiry is to present a bill calling for a second inquiry in Parliament. Any MP can raise a Private Members Bill, any party can raise a party sponsored Bill. To date non have done so. The use of a three line whip by the government, to ensure a call for an inquiry was defeated, rather gives a hint at the inevitable result of any attempt to pass a Private Members Bill or opposition sponsored Bill. As for"vigilante justice", the political and establishment determination to do nothing except maintain a very obvious coverup creates a (dangerous) vacuum which will be filled by the very same extremist bogeymen they keep raising, vigilantes and meddling creatures like Musk. Still, Chomper, as so often lately, a sterling effort to defend the indefensible! 1 1 8
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: I think a big part of this is the way we raise girls these days in the UK. Feminists have taken over the narrative and are living in dreamworld. Our young girls are sitting ducks for these perverts. Jeez, didn't think I'd see a post victim blaming the girls in an attempt to distract from who committed these horrible rapes against them, How sickening. 5
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I think marrying a basic understanding of Venn diagrams to members posting history might help you overcome your irony. Harris shares your love of Venn diagrams. Also your inane leftist out of date mindset. Oh, and failure to gaslight people into re-electing a liberal government. Progressives are generally seen as regressive these days. Everywhere except the UK but that will change at the next election. Your silly "Progressive" views are out of date. A failed experiment that will be mocked by historians. A dark 3 decades in an otherwise glorious Western history. 2 1 1 3 2
Chomper Higgot Posted January 11 Posted January 11 14 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: The use of a three line whip by the government, to ensure a call for an inquiry was defeated, rather gives a hint at the inevitable result of any attempt to pass a Private Members Bill or opposition sponsored Bill. As for"vigilante justice", the political and establishment determination to do nothing except maintain a very obvious coverup creates a (dangerous) vacuum which will be filled by the very same extremist bogeymen they keep raising, vigilantes and meddling creatures like Musk. Still, Chomper, as so often lately, a sterling effort to defend the indefensible! It seems you too don’t understand how Parliament functions. The Tories, aided by Reform, voted against the Children’s Welfare and Schools Bill at its second reading. There was no possibility of a second inquiry being added to the Bill. Pure knee jerk reaction and grandstanding in response to Musk trolling on X. 1 2 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It seems you too don’t understand how Parliament functions. The Tories, aided by Reform, voted against the Children’s Welfare and Schools Bill at its second reading. There was no possibility of a second inquiry being added to the Bill. Pure knee jerk reaction and grandstanding in response to Musk trolling on X. Its you who fails to understand, that's how politics work and getting further attention to a full national enquiry is hardly grandstanding to Musk. What it is however is drawing attention to what the victims need and what the majority of British people want. 2 1 1
MalcolmB Posted January 11 Posted January 11 26 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Jeez, didn't think I'd see a post victim blaming the girls in an attempt to distract from who committed these horrible rapes against them, How sickening. Obviously you have weak comprehension skills. I was blaming their parents, not them. Parents are probably too busy playing on their phones to supervise their daughters. 1
herfiehandbag Posted January 11 Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Harris shares your love of Venn diagrams. Also your inane leftist out of date mindset. Oh, and failure to gaslight people into re-electing a liberal government. Progressives are generally seen as regressive these days. Everywhere except the UK but that will change at the next election. Your silly "Progressive" views are out of date. A failed experiment that will be mocked by historians. A dark 3 decades in an otherwise glorious Western history. I am actually quite in favour of certain ( by no means all) "progressive ideas", and am certainly liberal ( note the lower case "l", since we are discussing matters in a UK political framework). This business is not a result of progressive ideas or liberal thinking. It is a matter of brutal politics. The grooming and rapes were from the start ignored by a political establishment greedy to curry the favours of a particular ethnic group in certain towns and metropolitan areas whose votes, usually wielded as effectively a block, were central to their political powerbase. It was an amoral and disgraceful decision which led to these gangs activities flourishing, and the cover up being ever more desperately maintained to preserve power (and careers) until the bubble inevitably burst. It is entirely possible to hold to progressive and liberal ideals, and be utterly opposed to this cover up, and seek action on and retribution for these foul matters. I do hold, and do seek!
Bkk Brian Posted January 11 Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: Obviously you have weak comprehension skills. I was blaming their parents, not them. Parents are probably too busy playing on their phones to supervise their daughters. Trying to justify the victim blaming now, it can get no lower, its now the parents fault not the barbarians who groomed then raped them. Vile stuff from you 2
herfiehandbag Posted January 11 Posted January 11 20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It seems you too don’t understand how Parliament functions. The Tories, aided by Reform, voted against the Children’s Welfare and Schools Bill at its second reading. There was no possibility of a second inquiry being added to the Bill. Pure knee jerk reaction and grandstanding in response to Musk trolling on X. I understand how Parliament works, and I understand that a Government with an assured parliamentary majority for the next 4 years could have reintroduced in short order and passed this bill. I also understand the rather cynical, and again I will use the term "amoral" political imperative which drives this same government to increasingly desperate attempts to maintain the cover up, attempts which centre on preventing an inquiry. Musk? I regard him as an odious meddler, I doubt he has any concerns with justice or the girls so terribly treated. I don't read Twitter or X, but I see that he has moved to fill a vacuum which inept political handling has created. I also suspect that Reform UK ( with some of whose aims I sympathise, although I am not sure I would vote for them, except possibly in coalition) will come to regret their association with him. 1
Popular Post sungod Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 Ridiculous, woke UK cant even call it what it is. These are not grooming gangs, these are rape gangs. 2 1 3 1
KireB Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: A disgusting comment calling for vigilante justice. The means to achieve a second inquiry is to present a bill calling for a second inquiry in Parliament. Any MP can raise a Private Members Bill, any party can raise a party sponsored Bill. To date non have done so. Seems to me there is not much left to do. 2
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted January 11 Popular Post Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: Obviously you have weak comprehension skills. I was blaming their parents, not them. Parents are probably too busy playing on their phones to supervise their daughters. For certainly the first decade plus of this grooming "epidemic" the sort of mobile phones you refer to did not exist! 3
Chomper Higgot Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: I understand how Parliament works, and I understand that a Government with an assured parliamentary majority for the next 4 years could have reintroduced in short order and passed this bill. I also understand the rather cynical, and again I will use the term "amoral" political imperative which drives this same government to increasingly desperate attempts to maintain the cover up, attempts which centre on preventing an inquiry. Musk? I regard him as an odious meddler, I doubt he has any concerns with justice or the girls so terribly treated. I don't read Twitter or X, but I see that he has moved to fill a vacuum which inept political handling has created. I also suspect that Reform UK ( with some of whose aims I sympathise, although I am not sure I would vote for them, except possibly in coalition) will come to regret their association with him. Alleged cover up. My cynical view is Musk has offered vast sums of cash to Reform but has since signaled his displeasure with Farage. Too much money for other rightwing parties to not notice. If I’m correct we’ll see more Rightwing Party knee jerk reactions to Musk’s meddling. Meanwhile the correct way to raise a request for a second inquiry is to debate it on its own merits in Parliament. 1 2 1
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