Is the harsh criticisms of Sir Keir Starmer fair and justified

[Thingamabob]

In addition to the points already made Starmer's appearance and  manner do not inspire confidence. It gets worse when he starts to speak. His choice of cabinet members is also a matter of great concern. Further, taking account of his government's poor performance to date, plus revelations about his and Reeves' Marxist leanings, and it is hardly surprising that he is being harshly criticised. 

[The Cyclist]

This is a good indicator of how stupid he really is

 

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Starmer says 'door remains open' for Siddiq going forward, implying she could return to government in future

 

Surely as a former DPP, he should have been wise enough to say that an active investigation is ongoing, and I cannot comment any further.

 

Going to look even more stupid, than he does already, If she gets hammered by the Bangladeshi's.

[fvw53]

Political partisanship has with the new media of the last 10 years reached the levels of Northern Ireland 30 years ago.

At that time there was a joke that the hardline protestant leader Rev Ian Paisley was dying but he shocked his supporters with the news that he converted to the Catholic faith. They went to ask him "why?" and he replied "if one has to die it better be one of them than one of us"

[brewsterbudgen]

I'm a Labour supporter, but I can understand the anger that non-Labour supporters have with the government and the PM.  I had to go through 14 years of anger and frustration with the far more awful governments of Cameron (Brexit!), May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak!  It's just politics.

[PETERTHEEATER]

3 hours ago, Snackbar said:

Embarrassing 

 

The man’s a poofta

Too true Blue.

[Will B Good]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Im not British, dont live there……………….. and only know what I read in (mostly) leftist news. My values do not accord with those of Mr. Starmer, based on what I have read, but thats not my business. My main interest in Blighty is their ability to assist us in developing and continuing and expanding the power of the English speaking world.

 

What happens over there up to you Sassenachs. I wish the non Yanks would be as circumspect where required.

 

 

 

Good point, well made……so keep your beaky little neb out.

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Why would you suggest such a thing? 😄

 

 

 

 

I think all parties must have a committee dedicated to……”What can our leader do today that makes them look a right………."

[sandyf]

7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Furthermore, and most egregious, he now appears to be placing limiting political damage from the fall out from the exposure of the Pakistani Child Rape Gangs cover up over the need for a proper inquiry into what is probably the biggest scandal in British post war history.

The one point I wouldn't hold him out to dry on is another enquiry. We have known from 2011 what the problem is and we don't really need to spend more time and money on proving it. The tories stuck their head in the sand and labour failed to take the initiative as soon as they took office, now paying for that mistake.

Bottom line is they are a bunch of hypocrites, claim to be the party for working people but no interest in those that have been working people. Those that have never contributed to the economy get more consideration.

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

The one point I wouldn't hold him out to dry on is another enquiry. We have known from 2011 what the problem is and we don't really need to spend more time and money on proving it. The tories stuck their head in the sand and labour failed to take the initiative as soon as they took office, now paying for that mistake.

Bottom line is they are a bunch of hypocrites, claim to be the party for working people but no interest in those that have been working people. Those that have never contributed to the economy get more consideration.

I agree that it would cover much ground which has already been covered. We know much ( although perhaps we are only now realising the scale and depth of both the criminal activities and the associated cover up.

 

The previous investigations and inquiries have been effectively buried. Exhuming them would not breathe fresh life into them.

 

A new inquiry, would make it much more difficult if not impossible, as a result of these latest revelations and the public interest and anger they have caused, to "manage" to maintain the "cover up", public and media are onto that game and will be watching like hawks. That is exactly why the government is so opposed to It. There are many questions still unanswered, they know that, and are, I suggest, desperate to leave them unanswered. Particularly pertinent are questions as to the CPS's role, which are now beginning to raise their head. The CPS (and it's head the DPP may be innocent), but they need to show that, publicly before an inquiry, not just claim and maintain it.

 

The cries of " an amendment to the Child Protection Bill will kill the Bill" are nonsense, with their majority and 4 + years  left in power they could easily resurrect it in short order.

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Good point, well made……so keep your beaky little neb out.

I have been, dont be a knob.