TIN number and how do I apply for one.

[mickmac]

Hi Guys, can anyone help me with regards to applying for a TIN tax registration. I live in the Sansai district of CM. There was an article from one of the members but cannot find it now, old age its a bitch. So any help would be appreciated.

Kind regards

[novacova]

Why do you want a TIN? Unless you are working here and generating income here you don’t need a TIN. 
PS…don’t pay any attention to the convoluted hysterics on the forum concerning taxation.

[CMBob]

It's been a long time (maybe 13 years) but I got one at the Revenue Department office by the intersection of the 700 year road and Chotana Road.  Got it at a second floor office there.  They wanted a copy of a couple pages of my passport (I had my passport and they copied the pages themselves) and also wanted a copy of a Certificate of Residence.  I had that Certificate but it was many months old....but they were satisfied with taking a copy of that.

Was there with an expat friend and the friendly Thai lady who had given us TINs also filed tax returns for both of us to retrieve withheld bank interest (we both got checks for that a couple of weeks later). 

I have no idea if you'll get the same quick and friendly service there nowadays....but good luck. 

 

[narkeddiver]

If you have a Pink Card linked to your yellow house book I believe that can be used in lieu of a TIN, but you’d need to confirm that

[SiSePuede419]

PROTIP: Even though they ask for the original document for your wife's passport, don't send it to them.

The Austin office lost my wife's passport and refused to admit it.

Instead send them a certified copy of your wife's passport.  You might have to go to the nearest big city they don't do this everywhere.  We had to drive 4 hours to Chiang Mai to certify.

[Thingamabob]

14 hours ago, narkeddiver said:

If you have a Pink Card linked to your yellow house book I believe that can be used in lieu of a TIN, but you’d need to confirm that

The ID number on the pink card certainly consists of the same amount of letters and numbers as a Thai TIN, 13 in all, in the same configuration as a Thai TIN.

[Mutt Daeng]

15 hours ago, narkeddiver said:

If you have a Pink Card linked to your yellow house book I believe that can be used in lieu of a TIN, but you’d need to confirm that

To use the Pink ID card number as a TIN, you would still need to register/activate that number at at the Tax office. My local Tax office did not use my Pink Card number when I applied for a TIN, even though I presented it and my YTB when I applied and even attached copies of the Pink Card & YTB to the TIN application form. So my Pink ID and TIN are different numbers. Others have reported similar experiences.

 

[Andycoops]

I got mine at the local Revenue Department, by showing my passport, pink ID card and yellow house book.

Was in the same building where you apply for ID and yellow books.

I paid a small fee.

[Mutt Daeng]

35 minutes ago, Andycoops said:

I got mine at the local Revenue Department, by showing my passport, pink ID card and yellow house book.

Was in the same building where you apply for ID and yellow books.

I paid a small fee.

That's basically what I did. I can't remember paying anything though - perhaps our lass paid and didn't tell me.

[EVENKEEL]

22 hours ago, novacova said:

Why do you want a TIN? Unless you are working here and generating income here you don’t need a TIN. 
PS…don’t pay any attention to the convoluted hysterics on the forum concerning taxation.

The taxation virus has been firmly planted in many elderly expats who have no plan B. It's a despicable thing to do in hopes of creating Tax Advisor business.

 

[thesetat]

one quick note to everyone. If you ever worked legally in Thailand and had a tax number issued. That number is valid forever in every part of Thailand. I had not seen or used mine from teaching 13 years ago. But it was in their computers in a different province and they let me know the number again just using my name. 

As for as the tax laws go. Everyone needs to figure out their own situation. DTA and other tax related questions are too generalized to be of use other than the need to file if you are in Thailand more than 6 months a year. 

Don't let these stories written by tax lawyers scare you to pay for one yourself. They are using your vulnerability to collect money from you and may not be accurate in their versions of OPs here. 

It is not difficult to get the TIN #. Just bring the documents they ask for to show you are here. Passport and resident letter should be enough i think.. I am not 100% certain if more is required. But i do not think there is a fee to get a TIN #. 

[Thingamabob]

38 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The taxation virus has been firmly planted in many elderly expats who have no plan B. It's a despicable thing to do in hopes of creating Tax Advisor business.

 

Well said.

[redwood1]

Stupid is as stupid does....

 

And getting a Tin is just STUPID.....Unless you working or investing in Thailand....

[grain]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

one quick note to everyone. If you ever worked legally in Thailand and had a tax number issued. That number is valid forever in every part of Thailand. I had not seen or used mine from teaching 13 years ago. But it was in their computers in a different province and they let me know the number again just using my name. 

As for as the tax laws go. Everyone needs to figure out their own situation. DTA and other tax related questions are too generalized to be of use other than the need to file if you are in Thailand more than 6 months a year. 

Don't let these stories written by tax lawyers scare you to pay for one yourself. They are using your vulnerability to collect money from you and may not be accurate in their versions of OPs here. 

It is not difficult to get the TIN #. Just bring the documents they ask for to show you are here. Passport and resident letter should be enough i think.. I am not 100% certain if more is required. But i do not think there is a fee to get a TIN #. 

Like yourself I have an old TIN, from 20 years ago when I was teaching, it was issued in Songkhla and I have the card stored away. I'm now retired, with a small pension, and I've been spending under 6 months a year in Thailand. But if any officials want to see my TIN, I have it.

[stoicccc]

On 1/16/2025 at 8:40 AM, novacova said:

Why do you want a TIN? Unless you are working here and generating income here you don’t need a TIN. 
PS…don’t pay any attention to the convoluted hysterics on the forum concerning taxation.

what about the income brought from abroad? it's convoluted?

[OJAS]

On 1/16/2025 at 5:17 AM, mickmac said:

Hi Guys, can anyone help me with regards to applying for a TIN tax registration. I live in the Sansai district of CM.

 

Based on my experience of obtaining a TIN a few months ago, you need to apply at your local Area Revenue Office. The following link lists those in and around Chiang Mai:

 

https://www.rd.go.th/13839.html

 

Best to take a Thai speaker with you as TRD staff members' comprehension of the English language tends to be non-existent, even in those areas with large expat populations. Take your passport with you since the IMM stamps contained in it will form the basis on which they determine whether you're a tax resident of Thailand (based on staying in the country for more than 180 days per annum).

 

Your Thai speaker may well have to complete the following form in the Thai language on your behalf:

 

https://www.rd.go.th/fileadmin/tax_pdf/request/lp10.1_110355.pdf

 

[EVENKEEL]

16 minutes ago, stoicccc said:

what about the income brought from abroad? it's convoluted?

You're right, get the TIN and don't under any circumstances allow the Thai officials to deny you. I demand to pay taxes. 

[stoicccc]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're right, get the TIN and don't under any circumstances allow the Thai officials to deny you. I demand to pay taxes. 

so what you are saying is that if i don't have a TIN and i'm here on an ED visa, they are not gonna come after me because I don't have the TIN and it's too much work to go through all the ED visa holders to get them for not paying taxes?

[ujayujay]

On 1/16/2025 at 8:40 AM, novacova said:

Why do you want a TIN? Unless you are working here and generating income here you don’t need a TIN. 
PS…don’t pay any attention to the convoluted hysterics on the forum concerning taxation.

Dream on little Dreamer

[thesetat]

3 hours ago, stoicccc said:

so what you are saying is that if i don't have a TIN and i'm here on an ED visa, they are not gonna come after me because I don't have the TIN and it's too much work to go through all the ED visa holders to get them for not paying taxes?

Am curious. Due to the ever changing policies of immigration. Are you really going to take a chance that next year the immigration will not be looking at your passport for renewal of visa and that they will not ask if you had filed taxes during this year? I do not know if i can trust what a foreigner thinks about this simply because nothing has been shown to learn how they will find the foreigners who had not filed taxes after staying here more than 180 days.... but it would be safe to say that using immigration who would know your stay status seems the most logical way to keep track of you and learn if you filed tax or have a TIN number even. 

No One really knows what they will or won't do. 

 

[saintdomingo]

I saw a comment not long ago that if you have a bank passbook savings account that deducts tax from interest paid, you will then have a TIN number.

True or false, anybody know.?

[khunPer]

On 1/15/2025 at 11:17 PM, mickmac said:

Hi Guys, can anyone help me with regards to applying for a TIN tax registration. I live in the Sansai district of CM. There was an article from one of the members but cannot find it now, old age its a bitch. So any help would be appreciated.

Kind regards

The local custom office will issue you a TIN; often same office that do vat-registration. You need your passport and photocopies of name page; entry stamp; visa page and eventual present extension of stay-stamp. Now, when foreigner's need to file a tax return, they will probably not ask any questions; before, at some places they would ask why you need a TIN and wish proof of taxable income.

[topt]

15 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Now, when foreigner's need to file a tax return, they will probably not ask any questions; before, at some places they would ask why you need a TIN and wish proof of taxable income.

I take it you have not seen the multiple comments recently from posters in various threads about how their local tax office refused to give them a TIN as they did not need to file...........

[IsaanT]

Coincidentally, I obtained my TIN this morning here in Roi Et.

I went to the local Revenue Office with my passport and my Thai partner and came out shortly after with a TIN.  They were very helpful and there were no charges.

[jensmann]

7 hours ago, redwood1 said:

Stupid is as stupid does....

 

And getting a Tin is just STUPID.....Unless you working or investing in Thailand....

To bad, that we won't hear from you, when you got convicted for tax fraud...

[EVENKEEL]

6 hours ago, stoicccc said:

so what you are saying is that if i don't have a TIN and i'm here on an ED visa, they are not gonna come after me because I don't have the TIN and it's too much work to go through all the ED visa holders to get them for not paying taxes?

I'm saying I'm not getting a TIN based on the paranoia created by a few anonymous posters. 

 

[EVENKEEL]

20 minutes ago, jensmann said:

To bad, that we won't hear from you, when you got convicted for tax fraud...

The fact that we share a first name is troubling. You are quite the drama queen.

[redwood1]

22 minutes ago, jensmann said:

To bad, that we won't hear from you, when you got convicted for tax fraud...

 

The only one who mentioned fraud was you....

If no taxes are due there is nothing to file.....

 

And from reading these tax treads for a year now it seems about 99% of posters figure they will be paying 0.0% in taxes or pretty close to it one way or another.....I dont think I have ever read a post by someone who shooting for a 35% tax....

[IsaanT]

2 hours ago, redwood1 said:

 

If no taxes are due there is nothing to file.....

 

And from reading these tax treads for a year now it seems about 99% of posters figure they will be paying 0.0% in taxes or pretty close to it one way or another.....I dont think I have ever read a post by someone who shooting for a 35% tax....

 

FWIW, I'm filing because then it's all above board and proper.  I have no wish to cause any problems in my host country.

I've calculated I might owe £71 in tax - it's a small price to pay.