3 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

it only takes a few honest individuals at the very top to begin cleaning up the corruption ...

 

Pipe dream !!!

43 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Pipe dream !!!

 

i know ...  

20 hours ago, billd766 said:

How about jailing every general that is still living that has taken part in illegal military coups first.

 

Wouldn't that be a great plan?

<deleted> Yea,🙏

6 hours ago, motdaeng said:

 

well said, put them all (including teflon toni) together in the same prison, they all deserve eachother ...

 

all of them are corrupt, selfish criminals ... start to get rid of them ... no need to wait ...

But was Thaksin really guilty, or was it a political decision, at least in the minds of the coup generals, to justify the illegal military coup?

 

To me. ANY political conviction under a military coup is an illegal conviction, and should be overturned and expunged from the records, and the justices who convicted them should be fired, and jailed themselves.

2 hours ago, motdaeng said:

 

it only takes a few honest individuals at the very top to begin cleaning up the corruption ...

 

Actually it takes a whole lot more than a few honest individuals at the very top. The majority of the people in the country to back them up, plus a reasonably honest military and police force.

 

It happened in S Korea very recently  and another instance many years ago as well.

 

Apart from that I agree 100%.

On 1/17/2025 at 9:40 AM, MikeandDow said:

This is what is called Assumption  !! No facts

No, but when there was a wiff of talk about Thaksin coming back to Thailand... I basically walked through the entire process of what would happen when he came back and told it to my Thai friend and she was going - no that won't happen... but this was exactly how it went... so my theory panned out.  Thaksin would not have come back to Thailand until he had guarantees in place... and every detail agreed to... There is no way he would risk going to prison in general population for a long time or any real length of time (unless of course he funded the prison and he was the first and only prisoner during the period of incarceration).  He also made sure to return before the Pheu Thai were holding the reins of power because doing it after would have only resulted in the fall of the party and putting him at risk.  Doing it while other powerful military linked people were responsible for the government - mitigated it.

10 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

No, but when there was a wiff of talk about Thaksin coming back to Thailand... I basically walked through the entire process of what would happen when he came back and told it to my Thai friend and she was going - no that won't happen... but this was exactly how it went... so my theory panned out.  Thaksin would not have come back to Thailand until he had guarantees in place... and every detail agreed to... There is no way he would risk going to prison in general population for a long time or any real length of time (unless of course he funded the prison and he was the first and only prisoner during the period of incarceration).  He also made sure to return before the Pheu Thai were holding the reins of power because doing it after would have only resulted in the fall of the party and putting him at risk.  Doing it while other powerful military linked people were responsible for the government - mitigated it.

So you are a mystic !!! what are the lottery numbers !!

I hope it doesn't happen. Perhaps he should think out of the box more and employ a doppelganger, much to his aid.

16 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

So you are a mystic !!! what are the lottery numbers !!

No, you just have to put yourself in their position and figure what they would or would not do - given the negotiating position they landed in.  They wanted some control over the government, and they basically negotiated with Thaksin's minions to retain some control... then figure out what Thaksin would accept or risk - given he was out of the country with significant amounts of money.  Would you accept coming back and just going to prison for 8 years, or even 1 year ( a Thai prison)... no... of course not... not if you had the money to live a comfortable life in exile... The military backed government did not want to be seen just caving, but they were willing to rig it... come back for prison, and pretend you are going there... and then you will get a pardon... and then we will figure out how to have you serve the rest in comfort somewhere if it is home confinement or special accommodations... does not take much to figure out how it would go down...   You would have to be an idiot to think he would come back to Thailand and risk serving a long sentence in general population in a Thai prison...