The Troubling Decline of DEI: A Step Backward for America

[WDSmart]

14 minutes ago, novacova said:

DEI has nothing to do with equal protection, it is all about unmerited hires based on looks and beliefs, which is the epitome of bias prejudice. Besides the US already has equal protection laws on the books to prevent unmerited hires. 

DEI has everything to do with equal protection. It has nothing to do with "unmerited" hires. It is intended to reduce the hires (of qualified people) based on the majority's looks and beliefs. It's intended to encourage the employer to consider trying to ensure their workforce exemplifies diversity, equity, and inclusion and is not just based on the looks and beliefs of the applicants that are prevalent in the existing workforce.

[Airalee]

Anybody notice something in that picture?

 

Look who is missing.

 

I recently had the opportunity to talk with a group of black men in Los Angeles as I was passing through.  When I asked them what they thought about DEI, their unanimous feeling was that it is great!*

 

*if you are either a woman and/or gay.

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

No! No! No! Attitudes like that are precisely what DEI is trying to eliminate. People are not "bad rubbish" just because they are different from you. 

The policies are the rubbish, not the people. 

[Yellowtail]

10 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

DEI has everything to do with equal protection. It has nothing to do with "unmerited" hires. It is intended to reduce the hires (of qualified people) based on the majority's looks and beliefs. It's intended to encourage the employer to consider trying to ensure their workforce exemplifies diversity, equity, and inclusion and is not just based on the looks and beliefs of the applicants that are prevalent in the existing workforce.

"There's no fool like an old fool." 

 

It's about compulsion, not consideration. 

[WDSmart]

19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

"There's no fool like an old fool." 

 

It's about compulsion, not consideration. 

And, DEI discourages employment based on age. 😉 

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

And, DEI discourages employment based on age. 😉 

Indeed

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

No! No! No! Attitudes like that are precisely what DEI is trying to eliminate. People are not "bad rubbish" just because they are different from you. 

lol no no no what?   DEI is contrary to nature and as such it is unsustainable.   How happy would you be on an aircraft if you knew the pilot only qualified because people with down's syndrome were currently under represented as  commercial airline pilots?

 

 

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

And, yes, I am a lefty - a very far-left lefty. 

There will be a cure for that soon hopefully, 

[edwardflory]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Employing people based on race or gender

 

and not ABILITY or education ( don't give me the bs someone can't afford higher education - I worked 2 PT jobs to pay for my education ) is insanity.

 

When I owned a store, I joined / sponsered the intern program of a local high school. The kids were MOTIVATED to learn, I had 1 boy and 2 girls as interns. Color or religion was of no concern to me - motivation / ability was the factor.

[WDSmart]

15 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

lol no no no what?   DEI is contrary to nature and as such it is unsustainable.   How happy would you be on an aircraft if you knew the pilot only qualified because people with down's syndrome were currently under represented as  commercial airline pilots?

 

 

A person with Down's Syndrome would not be qualified to fly a plane. A person of a minority race, gender, or even transgender might be qualified. If they are, they should be considered for the job.

[WDSmart]

14 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

And, yes, I am a lefty - a very far-left lefty. 

There will be a cure for that soon hopefully, 

Hopefully, that will be a movement of the majority to the left, so I won't be so far left... 😉

[Bday Prang]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

A person with Down's Syndrome would not be qualified to fly a plane. A person of a minority race, gender, or even transgender might be qualified. If they are, they should be considered for the job.

"considered" sure that's perfectly ok  but not given or guaranteed  a job because they are "special" at the expense of a more capable "normal " person.  If I was running a business I would expect to employ who ever I wanted without explaining myself to somebody like you 

[Bday Prang]

7 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Hopefully, that will be a movement of the majority to the left, so I won't be so far left... 😉

I was thinking more along the lines of a early term blood test and appropriate termination

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

"considered" sure that's perfectly ok  but not given or guaranteed  a job because they are "special" at the expense of a more capable "normal " person.  If I was running a business I would expect to employ who ever I wanted without explaining myself to somebody like you 

"Considered" is all that DEI asks. It doesn't require you to employ someone you don't want.

[theblether]

Marxist scum were allowed to run the agenda and we ended up with the Palisades and Malibu burnt to the ground and aircraft breaking up in the air. Here's a bitter unarguable truth for these self-described "far lefties." 

 

20% of the human population worldwide are psychologically and intellectually disabled. That applies to white cultures just as much as any other. 

 

10% maximum are high functioning. These are the doctors, airline pilots, development engineers, scientists etc. That leaves 70% in the middle that we rely upon to ensure that society functions. Virtually everyone reading this thread, including me, is in the 70%. 

 

Society needs that 70% to function or society falls to pieces. DEI interfered with the efficiency of that 70%. I have direct knowledge of a program where DEI was introduced and it doubled the workload of the efficient 70% who had to double-check literally everything that was done by the DEI employees. The employer, who is desperate for employees, had to abandon the program as they were sailing close to being sued for indefensible employee negligence.

 

The truth for far lefties? 

 

No one cares the colour of your skin when your mother is being saved from a heart attack, when your child is being carried from a burning house. We only care about efficiency. 

 

Promoting the inefficient and undermining functioning society in the pursuit of racial equality was never going to work. Its the mindset of morons. Well intentioned morons, but still morons. 

 

Marxist scum morons. 

[BusyB]

3 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Except that's not how it works at all.   Here is the current racist advert for internships at MI5 in the UK that allows everyone to apply except white people.  

 

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/careers/opportunities/internships

 

 

 

I wonder why ... 🤔

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

"Considered" is all that DEI asks. It doesn't require you to employ someone you don't want.

If that were true there would be no issues, but theres more to it in reality.

Two guys apply to me for a job one black, one white , both identically qualified and experienced.  However there is "something" about the white guy i just don't like ,  so I give the job to the black guy ,  No problem and the white guy has no recourse to complain.

On the other hand if i just don't like the black guy and employ the white man,  the black guy has many ways to complain and I have left myself open to a whole load of problems

[Airalee]

8 minutes ago, theblether said:

Marxist scum were allowed to run the agenda and we ended up with the Palisades and Malibu burnt to the ground and aircraft breaking up in the air. Here's a bitter unarguable truth for these self-described "far lefties." 

 

20% of the human population worldwide are psychologically and intellectually disabled. That applies to white cultures just as much as any other. 

 

10% maximum are high functioning. These are the doctors, airline pilots, development engineers, scientists etc. That leaves 70% in the middle that we rely upon to ensure that society functions. Virtually everyone reading this thread, including me, is in the 70%. 

 

Society needs that 70% to function or society falls to pieces. DEI interfered with the efficiency of that 70%. I have direct knowledge of a program where DEI was introduced and it doubled the workload of the efficient 70% who had to double-check literally everything that was done by the DEI employees. The employer, who is desperate for employees, had to abandon the program as they were sailing close to being sued for indefensible employee negligence.

 

The truth for far lefties? 

 

No one cares the colour of your skin when your mother is being saved from a heart attack, when your child is being carried from a burning house. We only care about efficiency. 

 

Promoting the inefficient and undermining functioning society in the pursuit of racial equality was never going to work. Its the mindset of morons. Well intentioned morons, but still morons. 

 

Marxist scum morons. 

 

[impulse]

21 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

"Considered" is all that DEI asks. It doesn't require you to employ someone you don't want.

 

Then why did the Biden DOJ sue Sheetz (gas stations), because they did background checks on their applicants for criminal charges?  The DOJ claimed that the background checks discriminated against certain minorities who had a higher probability of a criminal record.  Ponder that one, on several levels.

 

Of course, it could be because Biden got the cold shoulder from the "crowd" at a Sheetz a few days earlier during a campaign stop.

 

[Airalee]

14 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I was thinking more along the lines of a early term blood test and appropriate termination

Or a stronger vaccine for the next pandemic.

[soi3eddie]

As @theblether alluded too, how well did the DEI hires go for the residents in the fire affected areas of California go recently? DEI has no place in the fire department and local government (or anywhere else for that matter). Best man (or woman) should get the job. This is why some corporations are backpeddling on DEI in my opinion. If these DEI hires cannot do the job, then, ultimately, it can affect the whole organisation. Stock prices, dividends, and survival of the business are important. 

[theblether]

21 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I was thinking more along the lines of a early term blood test and appropriate termination

 

Apparently they are all on a sex strike so we'll not need to worry about the next generation of lefty weirdos as they won't be born at all. 

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, theblether said:

 

Apparently they are all on a sex strike so we'll not need to worry about the next generation of lefty weirdos as they won't be born at all. 

We can only live in hope

[Lacessit]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can't force change through the law, when it's obviously BS. Employing people based on race or gender was never going to work if the people employed were not able to do the job.

 

In NZ there was a female captain when her navy ship foundered after running aground. I never heard of a NZ navy ship with a male captain running aground in my entire life.

Was it bad luck or incompetence? I know what I think, but I suspect the inquiry will have a different outcome from what I want. The fix is in, and it's not going to be good for anyone.

 

In the US, happily the biggest attempt at DEI in history was foiled as the potential POTUS was shown up to be a babbling incompetent, though it's scary that she still got as many votes as she did.

A statistical sample of one proves your case?

 

You should be careful choosing who to fly with. In the US, 5% of airline pilots are female. Air India is even more, 10%.

 

Your misogyny is based on your experience with one Thai woman, it is hardly rational.

 

What's scary is the nation with the world's most powerful military is either going to be led by a narcissistic sociopath, or a cabal of oligarchs.

[theblether]

The medical term for someone with an IQ of less than 84 is "moron." I suggest some of you take the time to research McNamara's morons, a cohort who were drafted to the Vietnam War and who suffered higher casualty rates as they didn't have the brains to assess risk. 

 

 

[Bday Prang]

6 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

it can affect the whole organisation. Stock prices, dividends, and survival of the business are important. 

those things are indeed important to most people who live the in the real world  However, to the advocates of this DEI insanity who either live in the protected environment of low quality "universities" or who are "employed" in non-jobs funded by the taxpayer or who simply live off benefits,  none of the things you mention have any meaning whatsoever

[Airalee]

2 minutes ago, theblether said:

The medical term for someone with an IQ of less than 84 is "moron." I suggest some of you take the time to research McNamara's morons, a cohort who were drafted to the Vietnam War and who suffered higher casualty rates as they didn't have the brains to assess risk. 

 

 

Perhaps that is the answer for the leftists in the here and now.

 

Send them to war and put them on the front lines.

 

Make sure to include the old/elderly leftists…ya know…to be inclusive.

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, theblether said:

I suggest some of you take the time to research McNamara's morons, a cohort who were drafted to the Vietnam War and who suffered higher casualty rates as they didn't have the brains to assess risk. 

  Was it because they couldn't assess risk, or was it because they were considered sacrificial because they were morons?

 

Not meant to be a pointed question.  I don't claim to know.

 

[riclag]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can't force change through the law, when it's obviously BS. Employing people based on race or gender was never going to work if the people employed were not able to do the job.

 

In NZ there was a female captain when her navy ship foundered after running aground. I never heard of a NZ navy ship with a male captain running aground in my entire life.

Was it bad luck or incompetence? I know what I think, but I suspect the inquiry will have a different outcome from what I want. The fix is in, and it's not going to be good for anyone.

 

In the US, happily the biggest attempt at DEI in history was foiled as the potential POTUS was shown up to be a babbling incompetent, though it's scary that she still got as many votes as she did.

Monday is MLK jr DAY, a National Holiday !  Its also Inauguration Day for the 47th POTUS.

How fitting it would be for 47 to Quote a famous line , in his address to the nation ,that flys in the face of the Cultural Marxist, plan of DEI ,where people  judge people based on the color of their skin and not on the content of their character. That being said ,DEI  puts character and merit achievement second.

 

MLKjr:"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

[Bday Prang]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

What's scary is the nation with the world's most powerful military is either gowho?ing to be led by a narcissistic sociopath, or a cabal of oligarchs.

as opposed to who?     Kamala Harris     now that would be really scary