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3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

It's just a return to normalcy.

Its not "right wing". Its classical Liberalism. Time to reclaim the word from  Socialist manipulation and double talk.

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from what i have seen in the last 35 years, i think i prefer the right...

used to be more towards the left but no more... my only issue is that I believe health care and education should be free for all and that does not necessarily match big pharma's agenda nor the right's.

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41 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s with a knowledge and understanding of history that I confidently state it will not last.

 

The historical imperative. How scientific. How Socialist.

 

You guys havent killed enough folks yet?

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Better to look at the big picture, rather than focus on the façade. The names change, but the concept is always the same: the masses are left behind, they want more than their skills and talents can give them in open competition, they become aggrieved, and then someone steps in with an easy answer that pacifies the masses for a time. Then rinse and repeat.

 

This move to the right has nothing to do with “woke” nor does it have anything to do with the discredited ideologies of Socialism and Marxism. Capitalism has been the recent driving force in every country from the US to China, but the problem is not everyone can win. A country like the US can (theoretically) make everyone equal under the law, but it cannot make everyone equal in terms of the ability to succeed and prosper. Skills and talents are not handed out evenly by the impish Universe. Never were, never will be.

 

All societies have winners and losers. In the last 100 years or so, many societies have found ways to carry their less gifted citizens. This was achieved through a combination of social programs, wider access to debt, and government spending that improved basic conditions, so that even the poor could live a reasonably comfortable life. All such programs are a form of Socialism, but most countries limited it to things viewed as basic human necessities, while Capitalism and free enterprise drove the rest of the economy.

 

The period where a rising tide lifts all boats is coming to an end. Labor is being obviated. Those with marketable skills and talents have seen more wealth fall into their hands, as well as the control of more of society’s assets, both physical and financial. Qini coefficients are rising everywhere; the rich are getting richer, while their control over assets is making it more difficult for low wage earners to live comfortably.

 

There is no easy solution to this problem, especially since technology is exacerbating it. Those who “have” can get more pretty easily, while those who don’t have cannot catch up.

 

Those being left behind at this juncture, where Darwinian Capitalism and competition hold sway, are tending now toward what they call ‘conservative’ ideologies. The term ‘conservative’ is a euphemism for racism and misogyny. Rather than face the reality of their own Darwinian weakness, they demand entitlement. They don’t want to have to compete with people who don’t look like them, because they need to feel themselves inherently superior. They want a world where they are automatically put at the front of the line, bypassing other ethnicities. Their masculinity is challenged because they see skilled and talented women outperforming them. One result of this emasculation is they demand to control women, such as telling women what women can do with their own bodies They want to restrict others’ freedom. They disparage women who are not susceptible to their ‘charms’, which is to say they can’t ‘get any’. The Incel movement is a visible result of this, as is the trend toward seeking what they think are compliant women in less developed countries. Those left behind, because neither their skills nor charms arm them for success in either careers or relationships, are absolutely susceptible to slogans like “Make America great again”. They cannot define what that greatness might be, other than a time when they would have been entitled by their ethnicity or gender. The concept of “freedom” to these folks means entitlement for them and restrictions on others. As for “greatness”, that means when women were kept ‘barefoot and pregnant’ and certain ethnicities became ‘strange fruit’ or at least sat at the back of the bus.

 

Into this step opportunists and charlatans, people who promise the moon and tell society’s losers nothing is their fault. When necessary or useful, “outsiders” are identified as the source of the problem. This resonates, since most people are incapable of accepting personal responsibility, nor are most able to accept the fact they lost the Birth Lottery, and that there are people much smarter and more able to navigate the world and succeed. Heaven forbid those better performers are female or of another ethnicity.

 

The charlatans need not be logical. Neither do they need to be truthful. Lies are cheap and can spread quickly. The aggrieved in society will grab anything that allows them a chance to express more outrage and anger, which is the outlet for their fears of failure and falling behind.  Notice how so many get apoplectic about what they call “woke”, which is an attribute driven by a vocal, but ultimately quite small part of the populace. The masses don’t really care if somebody insists on a new pronoun; they are angry at frustrated about their own failures, but project that onto others and onto totally unrelated things. Each outrage draws the forlorn closer to the charlatans who are manipulating them, and then the opportunists and charlatans feed it even more (usually with lies and hyperbole, such as “They’re eating the pets!”). Since these charlatans are totally self-serving, they portray themselves as strongmen who can make everything “great” again, despite having no clue how to do that, even if they wanted to (which they don’t). They merely want power, and will tell the populace whatever people want or need to hear, just so the wannabe autocrat can gain power.

 

People are easy to fool and manipulate, especially if they are fearful and aggrieved. Tell people what they want to hear, and one can become their champion. Of course, the joke is on those who see a hero in someone who is a self-serving fraud, because if the fraud is successful and takes power, he will do nothing to benefit the masses whom he has fooled. He couldn’t care less about those who supported him, as all he needed (in a democracy) was their vote.

 

This trend will continue for a while, with more nations moving to the right. Soon, however, even the clueless will see all that has happened is that wealth and power have become even more concentrated in the hands of the elite, and none of the promises made by their hero come to pass, or at least result in any benefit to the masses.

 

Eventually the pendulum swings too far, and sentiments do a flip flop. Those who still can’t make it eventually get attracted by the kind of mandated equality that goes by the name of Socialism or Communism (but is nothing of the sort). It’s really just another side of the same coin, this flip flop. The losers just choose a different path in the hopes of finding some sort of success. Communism became “attractive” when wealth and power became too concentrated in a limited number of hands. The former heroes get the Tsar treatment or Mussolini’d or Qaddafi’d or even Ceaucescu’d. Then a new ideology takes hold, which will also be abused by those in charge, and it will eventually fail.

 

The bottom line is that Darwin is always in charge. An elite will always rule, whatever the supposed underlying ideology might be. The elite become king of the mountain until somebody can knock them off. The strong find a way both to rule and appeal to the masses, whether the structure is monarchism, tribalism, fascism, capitalism, socialism, communism or nihilism.

 

Today, the trend is toward fascism. This, too, shall pass. The masses eventually will embrace another ideology, and the Darwinian elite will manipulate whatever that next ideology is for their own ends. Plus ca change.

 

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It's a reaction to the idiotic ideology and policies of the progressive left. Trump won not by espousing right wing policies but by running on centrist policies, winning over the traditional centre left voters abandoned by the progressive left. 

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The left massively over-reached with their loony "Progressive" policies like discriminating against men and white people under the guise of DEI. Allowing Men to beat up Women in a boxing ring under the name of trans rights. The list goes on.

 

This is simply a natural correction of such racist and sexist policies favoured by Liberals. 

 

Long may it continue (and it will). 

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On 1/20/2025 at 9:06 AM, Social Media said:

These leaders share more than just admiration for Trump. They embrace a provocative style, rejection of progressive values, and a disdain for what they call “the elites.” Migrants, “wokery,” and the liberal establishment are frequent targets of their rhetoric. Leveraging social media, they bypass traditional media channels to connect directly with their base.  

Sounds good to me.

 

If the left are failing it is IMO entirely their own fault. Their arrogant disregard for the common man and their embracing of idiotic liberal ideas ( eg more than 2 genders ) was always going to fail, once the common man was able to see where it was leading.

 

The danger though, is that the right then goes too far. The world suffered when that happened last century.

It's time for a middle path, though I fear moderate voices are being drowned out by the shouting from the extremists.

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23 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

from what i have seen in the last 35 years, i think i prefer the right...

used to be more towards the left but no more... my only issue is that I believe health care and education should be free for all and that does not necessarily match big pharma's agenda nor the right's.

While I agree that health care should be free for life ( NHS ) and education till age 16 should be free, as long as the US is a capitalist country, it's not going to happen for health care.

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On 1/20/2025 at 9:05 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s with a knowledge and understanding of history that I confidently state it will not last.

 

 

Nothing lasts, certainly not the woke/trans/gender/DEI/CRT leftist nonsense we have been suffering from for the past few years.

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1 minute ago, proton said:

 

Nothing lasts, certainly not the woke/trans/gender/DEI/CRT leftist nonsense we have been suffering from for the past few years.


Give me one example of how you personally have suffered from these maladies 

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1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:


Give me one example of how you personally have suffered from these maladies 

.

 

Totally irrelevant. A silly deflection. 

 

I don't personally suffer from blokes in skirts being allowed into women's prisons. Does that mean I cannot oppose it?

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14 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Better to look at the big picture, rather than focus on the façade. The names change, but the concept is always the same: the masses are left behind, they want more than their skills and talents can give them in open competition, they become aggrieved, and then someone steps in with an easy answer that pacifies the masses for a time. Then rinse and repeat.

 

This move to the right has nothing to do with “woke” nor does it have anything to do with the discredited ideologies of Socialism and Marxism. Capitalism has been the recent driving force in every country from the US to China, but the problem is not everyone can win. A country like the US can (theoretically) make everyone equal under the law, but it cannot make everyone equal in terms of the ability to succeed and prosper. Skills and talents are not handed out evenly by the impish Universe. Never were, never will be.

 

All societies have winners and losers. In the last 100 years or so, many societies have found ways to carry their less gifted citizens. This was achieved through a combination of social programs, wider access to debt, and government spending that improved basic conditions, so that even the poor could live a reasonably comfortable life. All such programs are a form of Socialism, but most countries limited it to things viewed as basic human necessities, while Capitalism and free enterprise drove the rest of the economy.

 

The period where a rising tide lifts all boats is coming to an end. Labor is being obviated. Those with marketable skills and talents have seen more wealth fall into their hands, as well as the control of more of society’s assets, both physical and financial. Qini coefficients are rising everywhere; the rich are getting richer, while their control over assets is making it more difficult for low wage earners to live comfortably.

 

There is no easy solution to this problem, especially since technology is exacerbating it. Those who “have” can get more pretty easily, while those who don’t have cannot catch up.

 

Those being left behind at this juncture, where Darwinian Capitalism and competition hold sway, are tending now toward what they call ‘conservative’ ideologies. The term ‘conservative’ is a euphemism for racism and misogyny. Rather than face the reality of their own Darwinian weakness, they demand entitlement. They don’t want to have to compete with people who don’t look like them, because they need to feel themselves inherently superior. They want a world where they are automatically put at the front of the line, bypassing other ethnicities. Their masculinity is challenged because they see skilled and talented women outperforming them. One result of this emasculation is they demand to control women, such as telling women what women can do with their own bodies They want to restrict others’ freedom. They disparage women who are not susceptible to their ‘charms’, which is to say they can’t ‘get any’. The Incel movement is a visible result of this, as is the trend toward seeking what they think are compliant women in less developed countries. Those left behind, because neither their skills nor charms arm them for success in either careers or relationships, are absolutely susceptible to slogans like “Make America great again”. They cannot define what that greatness might be, other than a time when they would have been entitled by their ethnicity or gender. The concept of “freedom” to these folks means entitlement for them and restrictions on others. As for “greatness”, that means when women were kept ‘barefoot and pregnant’ and certain ethnicities became ‘strange fruit’ or at least sat at the back of the bus.

 

Into this step opportunists and charlatans, people who promise the moon and tell society’s losers nothing is their fault. When necessary or useful, “outsiders” are identified as the source of the problem. This resonates, since most people are incapable of accepting personal responsibility, nor are most able to accept the fact they lost the Birth Lottery, and that there are people much smarter and more able to navigate the world and succeed. Heaven forbid those better performers are female or of another ethnicity.

 

The charlatans need not be logical. Neither do they need to be truthful. Lies are cheap and can spread quickly. The aggrieved in society will grab anything that allows them a chance to express more outrage and anger, which is the outlet for their fears of failure and falling behind.  Notice how so many get apoplectic about what they call “woke”, which is an attribute driven by a vocal, but ultimately quite small part of the populace. The masses don’t really care if somebody insists on a new pronoun; they are angry at frustrated about their own failures, but project that onto others and onto totally unrelated things. Each outrage draws the forlorn closer to the charlatans who are manipulating them, and then the opportunists and charlatans feed it even more (usually with lies and hyperbole, such as “They’re eating the pets!”). Since these charlatans are totally self-serving, they portray themselves as strongmen who can make everything “great” again, despite having no clue how to do that, even if they wanted to (which they don’t). They merely want power, and will tell the populace whatever people want or need to hear, just so the wannabe autocrat can gain power.

 

People are easy to fool and manipulate, especially if they are fearful and aggrieved. Tell people what they want to hear, and one can become their champion. Of course, the joke is on those who see a hero in someone who is a self-serving fraud, because if the fraud is successful and takes power, he will do nothing to benefit the masses whom he has fooled. He couldn’t care less about those who supported him, as all he needed (in a democracy) was their vote.

 

This trend will continue for a while, with more nations moving to the right. Soon, however, even the clueless will see all that has happened is that wealth and power have become even more concentrated in the hands of the elite, and none of the promises made by their hero come to pass, or at least result in any benefit to the masses.

 

Eventually the pendulum swings too far, and sentiments do a flip flop. Those who still can’t make it eventually get attracted by the kind of mandated equality that goes by the name of Socialism or Communism (but is nothing of the sort). It’s really just another side of the same coin, this flip flop. The losers just choose a different path in the hopes of finding some sort of success. Communism became “attractive” when wealth and power became too concentrated in a limited number of hands. The former heroes get the Tsar treatment or Mussolini’d or Qaddafi’d or even Ceaucescu’d. Then a new ideology takes hold, which will also be abused by those in charge, and it will eventually fail.

 

The bottom line is that Darwin is always in charge. An elite will always rule, whatever the supposed underlying ideology might be. The elite become king of the mountain until somebody can knock them off. The strong find a way both to rule and appeal to the masses, whether the structure is monarchism, tribalism, fascism, capitalism, socialism, communism or nihilism.

 

Today, the trend is toward fascism. This, too, shall pass. The masses eventually will embrace another ideology, and the Darwinian elite will manipulate whatever that next ideology is for their own ends. Plus ca change.

 

The best post I’ve tad in this forum for a very long time.

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4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Totally irrelevant. A silly deflection. 

 

I don't personally suffer from blokes in skirts being allowed into women's prisons. Does that mean I cannot oppose it?


Straight in with the strawman Jonny.

 

Proton’s claim was ‘we’ve been suffering’ I’d like him to give an example of how he personally has been suffering.

 

12 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Nothing lasts, certainly not the woke/trans/gender/DEI/CRT leftist nonsense we have been suffering from for the past few years.

 

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1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:


Straight in with the strawman Jonny.

 

Proton’s claim was ‘we’ve been suffering’ I’d like him to give an example of how he personally has been suffering.

 

 

 

Well I have been suffering reading your ultra liberal posts with the links to the Guardian and your covert support of illegal immigration, transgender waffle and Palestinian terrorism. 🤤

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1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:


Straight in with the strawman Jonny.

 

Proton’s claim was ‘we’ve been suffering’ I’d like him to give an example of how he personally has been suffering.

 

 

 

I assume you know the difference between "We" and "I"?

 

We, as in defenders of women's rights to safe spaces.

 

We, as in opponents of racism/sexism in the form of DEI/CRT. 

 

We, as in people with a conscience who oppose the Woke mind virus. 

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1 minute ago, proton said:

 

Well I have been suffering reading your ultra liberal posts with the links to the Guardian and your covert support of illegal immigration, transgender waffle and Palestinian terrorism. 🤤

So that’s a no, you haven’t suffered from any of these things beyond your own inability not to tugged around by those feeding you grievances.

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Just now, JonnyF said:

 

I assume you know the difference between "We" and "I"?

 

We, as in defenders of women's rights to safe spaces.

 

We, as in opponents of racism/sexism in the form of DEI/CRT. 

 

We, as in people with a conscience who oppose the Woke mind virus. 

I do, and when Proton said ‘we have suffered’ he was using the inclusive form.

 

As it turns out, when pressed on the matter he hasn’t suffered at all.

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A World Redefined: The Global Rise of the Right

 

As translated by the progressive liberal left1: "The world is about to be controlled by "Far-Right Extremists."

As translated by the conservative right: "By will of the majority who are tired of the policies of the progression liberal left, the social pendulum is swinging back toward conservatism."

 

Up next (as in Romania):
:angry: "We must overturn elections and ban parties where "Far-Right Extremists2" are running for office, or worse, are elected to office by the majority in order to "Save Our Democracy!"
"How do you plan on accomplishing that?" :ermm:
:angry: "We'll claim Russian interference and overturn the elections.  It works every time!"

 

1Progressive liberal left defined: "Far-Left Extremists."
2Far-Right Extremists defined: "Anyone to the right of the progressive liberal left."

 

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10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I do, and when Proton said ‘we have suffered’ he was using the inclusive form.

 

As it turns out, when pressed on the matter he hasn’t suffered at all.

 

So I guess it must be Empathy and Compassion that you do not understand.

 

That makes sense actually. 

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