Hamburger stand

[problemfarang]

When i was walking around and relaxing and watching a normal life i saw this british guy selling hamburger. He has a carry stall or stand. Not even a shop. Speaks normal level of thai with customers.. he cooks by homself. he even has tiktok and live. Didnt talk anything with him. 

PS: i dont know if he is thai citizen already or not. 

 

Is it legal? 

[Briggsy]

He either has Thai nationality or it is illegal.

 

Street vending is a restricted profession. He would not get a work permit for anything like that and it would not meet the salary requirements for the job you have described. So there are 3 big hurdles to cross.

 

However, I have seen a Russian with a WP selling pizza through some weird and dubious company structure at a food court.

[Caldera]

1 hour ago, problemfarang said:

Is it legal? 

 

Are his hamburgers any good?

[Phillip9]

 

It certainly could be legal if it is part of a larger business he owns and he employs some minimum number of Thais.  

[CallumWK]

Is your AN handle correct, or should it be lookforproblemfarang? Why not ask him yourself, or even better, mind your own business.

[TimBKK]

4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Is your AN handle correct, or should it be lookforproblemfarang? Why not ask him yourself, or even better, mind your own business.

Try cranberry juice, it’s a natural diuretic 

[problemfarang]

2 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

Are his hamburgers any good?

 

Tbh was very normal nothing special. 

[problemfarang]

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

 

It certainly could be legal if it is part of a larger business he owns and he employs some minimum number of Thais.  

 

Well he doesnt have any shop. Thats for sure. 

Even if he had is it still ok he can sell on the street but not at his shop??

[Briggsy]

23 hours ago, problemfarang said:

Even if he had is it still ok he can sell on the street but not at his shop??

No.

 

Street vending is a restricted profession. That means Thai Nationals only.

 

In addition work permits are location-specific along with being time-limited, employer-specific and duty-specific.

 

He has not got a work permit.

[Ralf001]

17 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

No.

 

Street vending is a restricted profession. That means Thai Nationals only.

 

In addition work permits are location-specific along with being time-limited, employer-specific and duty-specific.

 

He has not got a work permit.

 

My work permit does not have location or duty.

[Briggsy]

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

My work permit does not have location or duty.

Are you absolutely sure? Have you read every page of your work permit? Even the bits in Phasa Thai.

 

Is it a BOI company?

[bkk6060]

Maybe he is Thai like that Integrity legal guy.

[digger70]

On 1/19/2025 at 1:17 PM, problemfarang said:

 

Well he doesnt have any shop. Thats for sure. 

Even if he had is it still ok he can sell on the street but not at his shop??

Why worry. not your problem. Let It Be.  🙏

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

Are you absolutely sure? Have you read every page of your work permit? Even the bits in Phasa Thai.

 

Is it a BOI company?

 

100% certain.

Yes BOI company.

[Briggsy]

5 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

100% certain.

Yes BOI company.

It is possible a WP issued under the one-stop regulations administered by the BOI may omit duties and location. I don't know. Non-BOI work permits definitely do not. I will have to wait for an expert to come along.

 

BOI will not be dealing with this hamburger stand. So for all the reasons I stated above, including location and duties, this unnamed English guy does not hold a work permit for foreigners to do what he was doing. He may hold Thai nationality.

 

Can you read Thai?

[problemfarang]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

My work permit does not have location or duty.

On the first page. Your info plus work info. New workpermits dont have address only work name and your position

[Ralf001]

10 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

On the first page. Your info plus work info. New workpermits dont have address only work name and your position

 

correct, company name and my employment title.

[Ralf001]

14 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

 

 

Can you read Thai?

 

Yes.

[Krabi King]

2 hours ago, Briggsy said:

No.

 

Street vending is a restricted profession. That means Thai Nationals only.

 

In addition work permits are location-specific along with being time-limited, employer-specific and duty-specific.

 

He has not got a work permit.

Under the Royal Decree of 2018 (unfortunately we can't attach pdf anymore) there are a few things that have changed, including the points you mentioned. For many there is no fixed address of work and no exact work description anymore. I can confirm as I had an "old" work permit and a new one now. 

 

[Briggsy]

4 minutes ago, Krabi King said:

Under the Royal Decree of 2018 (unfortunately we can't attach pdf anymore) there are a few things that have changed, including the points you mentioned. For many there is no fixed address of work and no exact work description anymore. I can confirm as I had an "old" work permit and a new one now. 

 

Thank you for updating me. I was unaware of that. I just had the "old" style of work permit.

[bamnutsak]

From 2017...

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/964308-thais-impressed-as-legless-farang-burger-seller-wows-internet/

 

 

There have been lots of burger trucks, stands, pop-ups over the years. Several run by foreigners. 

[Denim]

On 1/19/2025 at 10:05 AM, problemfarang said:

When i was walking around and relaxing and watching a normal life i saw this british guy selling hamburger. He has a carry stall or stand. Not even a shop. Speaks normal level of thai with customers.. he cooks by homself. he even has tiktok and live. Didnt talk anything with him. 

PS: i dont know if he is thai citizen already or not. 

 

Is it legal? 

 

Where was this. In a tourist area he won't long survive the attention of the police. I have seen foreigners doing similar things in rural areas but always with their wives / girlfriends.

 

Enjoy your holiday, Glad you made it back safely.

[Jerry777]

I wonder how many Thai wives in the EU and the US work illegally? 2000?

[problemfarang]

27 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

Where was this. In a tourist area he won't long survive the attention of the police. I have seen foreigners doing similar things in rural areas but always with their wives / girlfriends.

 

Enjoy your holiday, Glad you made it back safely.

Hi.. thank you. Will back in 3 weeks. 

 

Well i saw him in bangkok and he was next to a university. Lot of people too around. 

[OneMoreFarang]

On 1/19/2025 at 11:21 AM, Phillip9 said:

 

It certainly could be legal if it is part of a larger business he owns and he employs some minimum number of Thais.  

Or he makes sure the local boys in brown received regular donations.

[Phillip9]

24 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or he makes sure the local boys in brown received regular donations.

That's probably more likely.

[rickudon]

Had one in Udon Thani. Used to sell (maybe still does) outside Fruit market/Makro. Hearsay was that immigration picked him up. he explained he had a son to look after, no wife. They let him go, If he tried selling Som Tam, might have thrown the book at him. Very few Thai burger stalls.

[problemfarang]

1 hour ago, rickudon said:

Had one in Udon Thani. Used to sell (maybe still does) outside Fruit market/Makro. Hearsay was that immigration picked him up. he explained he had a son to look after, no wife. They let him go, If he tried selling Som Tam, might have thrown the book at him. Very few Thai burger stalls.

 

He was lucky

[mogandave]

I think a husband can work for his wife’s business.

[problemfarang]

30 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I think a husband can work for his wife’s business.

 

correct but there are some rules. for example if he owns the company 49% he can be only in position of adviser or marketing. plus company must sell abroad. also farang cannot help any work such as making furniture and sell. he can do the selling part but cannot do the making part. if a foreigner do a work it means thai national not qualified for the position so the company needs a foreigner. Also street selling is 100% forbidden to farangs. also making a hamburger dont need a foreigner cook. 

so most likely hes doing this illegal and im so surprised no IMM checked him. he even has tiktok. and he sells ramkhankeng area near the university. 

i dont know maybe he has some kind of permit or maybe hes thai citizen.