Afghan man stabs and kills two in Germany, including a toddler others injured

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

So ask other Muslim countries for help.......why don't they?

What's religion got to do with it?

Say your country was invade by Hindus, would you only want asylum in Christian countries, or maybe you'd prefer a Buddhist country like Thailand? I am assuming you are Christian. 

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What chance?

Remember why many of these Muslim people are asylum seekers in the first place. Especially what the UK did by carving up their countries into artificial borders with little regard for ethnic, tribal, or religious divisions.  

 

Our country (the UK) was invaded, overruled etc...   just look at the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Viking Invasions and Danelaw, Norman Conquest, Scottish and Irish Invasions of England and vice versa, French Invasions and Influence....  Our own countries have been carved up and invaded through millennia...    The US itself was carved up....

 

... But, if any of that is not enough and you want something more 'similar'.... Look no further than India...    So, why do we not have 'Indian fundamentalists' attacking Western cities in the Name of Lord Shiva' ?????

 

 

On to you comment about the Southport murders... Axel Rudakubana is reported to have exhibited a disturbing obsession with violence, as evidenced by his possession of extremist materials, including the Al Qaeda Training Manual, and his research into self-driving car bombs and historical massacres - no religious motivation you say  ???

 

During the investigation into Axel Rudakubana, authorities discovered a PDF file titled "Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual" on his electronic devices.

This document is known to contain information useful for committing or preparing Jihadi acts of terrorism.

 

But... with this information it was also stated...  no additional Islamic paraphernalia was reported to have been found in his possession or residence, there was no established clear ideological or political motivation for his actions, and the attack has not been classified as a terrorist incident - thats clearly whitewashing the truth.

 

I guess the "Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual" - is no different from J.D. Salingers catcher in the Rye then !!! 

 

These attacks are being 'whitewashed' and their religious motivation played down... 

 

 

 

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[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Your lefty/liberal thinking is part of the problem that's destroying Western society

No, it's the racists, the Nazis, and anti-democrats, also the lowest level in society who struggle to compete with 2025, which are called leftovers in the rust belt, mostly uneducated.

[newbee2022]

59 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

The Geneva Convention ?
 

Is that you confirming that Islam is officially at war with Europe ?

Interesting. You got evidence? Facts?

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

Anything in that Geneva convention that says its OK to stab and drive over the very people that gave you aid and comfort? Fact is it's got out of hand, it would appear there are more economic seekers than asylum seekers and many more Islamists with a chip on their shoulder than we can handle, they won't be content until they have dragged us down to their level.

Interesting. Tell me about your last encounter with an Islamist or asylum seeker. Or do you repeat only what someone else repeated? Tell me

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

1 hour ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Your lefty/liberal thinking is part of the problem that's destroying Western society

No, it's the racists, the Nazis, and anti-democrats, also the lowest level in society who struggle to compete with 2025, which are called leftovers in the rust belt, mostly uneducated.

 

The Minister of Foreign Affairs of the UAE on the failure of the West to control fundamentalism which will result in Islamic fundamentalism and Terrorism developing within the West.

 

 

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The Minister of Foreign Affairs of the UAE on the failure of the West to control fundamentalism which will result in Islamic fundamentalism and Terrorism developing within the West.

 

 

Is it all you have to offer???🤣🤣🤣

[The Cyclist]

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Interesting. You got evidence? Facts?

 

You were quoting the Geneva Convention.
 

 I asked you if that was confirmation that Islam was at war with Europe ?
 

Or did you not know what the Geneva Convention was, when you made the comment ?

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, The Cyclist said:

 

You were quoting the Geneva Convention.
 

 I asked you if that was confirmation that Islam was at war with Europe ?
 

Or did you not know what the Geneva Convention was, when you made the comment ?

I expected such "no answer" already.🤣🤣🤣. Enjoy your day🤗

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

One needs to find the root cause, possibly what the US did in Afghanistan to allow their pipeline to be built. Possibly the US invading the country in 2001. Possible the US support of the Mujahideen.

 

Short memories some here have. 

 

In order to find the cause of a problem, one must first admit the problem exists. Denial seems to be preferable to many.

 

But yes, Blair's illegal war in the middle east did not help. We can agree on that. 

[James105]

14 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No, it's the racists, the Nazis, and anti-democrats, also the lowest level in society who struggle to compete with 2025, which are called leftovers in the rust belt, mostly uneducated.

 

The racists, the Nazi's (if they even exist nowadays) and anti-democrats are not killing little kids with knives on a regular basis.  Only one group is doing that and it is always islam.   It has shown time and time again it is completely incompatible with western culture. 

 

I wish it was the nazi's or the racists that were doing this as if it was there would be no stone left unturned to eradicate it from society, but since it's muslims that means nothing will be done and the tiresome appeasers continue to come out in force with their "what about the Nazi's" nonsense.  

[sungod]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Ah, we're going the racism road again? If you would need shelter because of persecution in your country you would be happy to accept by a country which signed the convention of Geneve

 

If I was facing persecution, I wouldnt give a hoot if the next safest country I arrived in had signed a convention of war or not, and I'm sure anyone under genuine persecution would feel the same. What we have here are economic migrants who leg it over multiple safe countries for a taste of the good life. Why dont they leg it to the gulf countries?

 

 

[Sandboxer]

Unfortunate as always, but on the bright side ever one of these incidents will result in even more votes for the AfD.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

23 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Is it all you have to offer???🤣🤣🤣

 

Nope... thats not what 'I' have to offer... Its what the Foreign Minister of the UAE has to offer.....     someone who's infinitely more qualified than both you or I to evaluate the evolving landscape of fundamentalist religious influences across Europe. 

 

In Summary, he's suggesting the West are simply too 'woke' to deal with this 'issue' effectively - you may disagree along with many others....   

 

.... However, having worked throughout the Middle East, having recently just returned from one of the 'most dangerous' countries within the Middle East - I can see how very true and realistic his [UAE Foreign Minister] words area.

 

Many liberal folk are very slow accomodate news and information that conflicts with their ideology until a gun is pushed into their faces - the very strengths that control fundamentalist views of all types and offer a layer of protection to society are often the 'strengths' and polices those best protected from them end up fighting against - the naivety and innocent ignorance is astounding....

.... Like a blond haired blue eyed back-packer wondering up the SWAT Valley to spread the word of world piece only to be taken in as a hostage or beheaded....    I've been invited to such area's as a friend, I'm in very little doubt as to what could really happen up there....  

[newbee2022]

7 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

The racists, the Nazi's (if they even exist nowadays) and anti-democrats are not killing little kids with knives on a regular basis.  Only one group is doing that and it is always islam.   It has shown time and time again it is completely incompatible with western culture. 

 

I wish it was the nazi's or the racists that were doing this as if it was there would be no stone left unturned to eradicate it from society, but since it's muslims that means nothing will be done and the tiresome appeasers continue to come out in force with their "what about the Nazi's" nonsense.  

Such post I call brainwashed .

You won't tell me that the murders in US are mainly committed by Muslims?

And you won't tell me that there are no Nazis?

Enjoy your afternoon. Good bye 😀

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

So ask other Muslim countries for help.......why don't they?

They do!  Far more than western countries.

 

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/displacement-in-the-muslim-world/

[proton]

2 hours ago, koolkarl said:

Let me guess he is a Muslim and the west never ever says this in their headline news.  Why they keep protecting them is

beyond me.

 

It's not all of them, but it's always them. Wonder why they stab the neck so often? it's a command in the Quran

[Hamus Yaigh]

2 hours ago, koolkarl said:

Let me guess he is a Muslim and the west never ever says this in their headline news.  Why they keep protecting them is

beyond me.

Because generalizations are harmful. Stereotyping a race based on the actions of a few extremists is harmful to innocent and perpetuates xenophobia. Crazy people come from all backgrounds, there’s no one religion, race, or ethnicity that has a monopoly on "crazy" people.

[soalbundy]

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Interesting. Tell me about your last encounter with an Islamist or asylum seeker. Or do you repeat only what someone else repeated? Tell me

Well I used to deal with a lot of Islamists while working in Germany but they were Turks, so the civilized kind, they would drink beer and eat pork saying Allah doesn't look in Germany, nice guys and hard workers but they didn't assimilate and even 3rd generation Turks spoke German with a Turkish accent even though they all attended German schools, there were exceptions of course.

 

They would all tell me that Turkey was the best country in the world but went silent when I asked them why they didn't live there then, even when they retired with a good German pension which made them well off in Turkey they didn't go back.

 

The teenage Turks were a cheeky unruly lot with a chip on their shoulders, they didn't feel they belonged in Germany but as 'foreigner Turks' they were despised in Turkey, a powder keg waiting to go off. They are Islamists and anti-western propaganda  was preached in the mosques (which they all attended) until the polizei started raiding and closing the worst ones. I generally had friendly relations with the older ones but not with the younger ones, contact wasn't wanted.

 

German companies didn't care about nationality just as long as you could do the job you were accepted but it did cause some amusement, once a large group of Turks who worked on the BMW production line wanted to stop work three times during the day during working hours to pray, they all had their little mats with them. The head foreman spoke with them and said OK but don't come back tomorrow, they all backed down.

[proton]

Just now, Hamus Yaigh said:

Because generalizations are harmful. Stereotyping a race based on the actions of a few extremists is harmful to innocent and perpetuates xenophobia. Crazy people come from all backgrounds, there’s no one religion, race, or ethnicity that has a monopoly on "crazy" people.

Not a few extremists, even wikepedia says over 48.000 muslim terrorist attacks since 1979 killing over 210k people. This does not even include those slaughtered in the so called 'insurgence' in the south of Thailand and other countries. It is not a stereotype or a generalisation to say that Islam is incompatible with non muslims and has proved to be violent and dangerous. Don't make excuses for this clear and present danger that we see every week. If you did not realise it, Islam is NOT a race.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

What's religion got to do with it?

Say your country was invade by Hindus, would you only want asylum in Christian countries, or maybe you'd prefer a Buddhist country like Thailand? I am assuming you are Christian. 

I don't have any religious affiliation, I would take any peaceful country and would be grateful and assimilate as far as language was concerned, as I have done in Thailand, I certainly wouldn't try to change their society or go around stabbing people.

[sammieuk1]

How much longer will Europe's governments bury their heads in the sand whilst blaming the far right 🤔

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[blaze master]

28 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Because generalizations are harmful. Stereotyping a race based on the actions of a few extremists is harmful to innocent and perpetuates xenophobia. Crazy people come from all backgrounds, there’s no one religion, race, or ethnicity that has a monopoly on "crazy" people.

 

A few ? That's a neat way of putting it Muslims are a race ? I didn't know that.  You learn something new every day.

 

[Neeranam]

17 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I don't have any religious affiliation, I would take any peaceful country and would be grateful and assimilate as far as language was concerned, as I have done in Thailand, I certainly wouldn't try to change their society or go around stabbing people.

Were you baptised?

 

You missed my point. 

[Neeranam]

49 minutes ago, proton said:

 

It's not all of them, but it's always them. Wonder why they stab the neck so often? it's a command in the Quran

You are a blatant bigot and Islamophobe 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

In order to find the cause of a problem, one must first admit the problem exists. Denial seems to be preferable to many.

 

But yes, Blair's illegal war in the middle east did not help. We can agree on that. 

It was Bush as well, and neither has seen the inside of a prison for their crimes. 

[proton]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You are a blatant bigot and Islamophobe 

 

For telling the truth?

Surah 47.4

47:4 So when you meet those who disbelieve strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them,

 

 

[Justanotherone]

a coward like that should get led medicine on the spot...at least in USA they know how to handle such case... instant justice