A death sentence for some

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

So Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk?  This is because Trump is no where near the 1% level.  

False.You only have to earn about $1M a year for that. A partner at a good law firm earns that. 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

So Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk?  This is because Trump is no where near the 1% level.  

Nah, We'll never know the names of the real 1%. They are too cunning to let us see who is really running the world.

[Hummin]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Is it your contention that those countries are unable to provide their own medications and other health care aid without people in other countries providing it? How is it the responsibility of a nurse in Britain to give her money to people in another country, when s/he is underpaid?

Because it is how our trade I connected through bilateral deals. 

 

Aid as a word is provocation for so many uneducated, and used as a political weapon by some far right parties, but when in position, nothing changes. It is just part of the game to get politically influence, and manage to spread misinformation. 

 

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Nah, We'll never know the names of the real 1%. They are too cunning to let us see who is really running the world.

About 20 million people in the US are in the top 1%

[Hummin]

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you have a link for that claim ?

Choose your source

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+stop+aid+to+countries+who+have+liberal+abortion&oq=trump+stop+aid+to+countries+who+have+liberal+abortion+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTIyNDExajBqNKgCDrACAQ&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sbfbu=1&pi=trump stop aid to countries who have liberal abortion

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

About 20 million people in the US are in the top 1%

LOL. Those are just the ones you know about. The real 1% are not going to be exposed so the peasants can see who is responsible for the disaster that has befallen the human world.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Because it is how our trade I connected through bilateral deals. 

 

Aid as a word is provocation for so many uneducated, and used as a political weapon by some far right parties, but when in position, nothing changes. It is just part of the game to get politically influence, and manage to spread misinformation. 

 

I agree, but it's all designed to enrich certain people at the expense of everyone else. It's so much easier to steal money when it's called "aid". Once it's out of the country it's easy to confuse the money trail, especially when it's sent to notoriously corrupt countries. Does Ukraine ring any bells?

[sqwakvfr]

14 minutes ago, mogandave said:

False.You only have to earn about $1M a year for that. A partner at a good law firm earns that. 

So a millionaire is in the 1%?  Most professional athletes are millionaires.  Then Ohtani of the Dodgers has to be in the .1 of the 1%??? He is due 700 million for playing baseball.  The CEO of the DWP in Los Angeles where there was a lack of water during the recent wildfires makes $750,000 per year.  So she is very close to making the 1% club. New LAPD Chief Jim McDonnel makes $450,000 per + $235,000 in retirement from  pay so he is also very close to the 1% as well.  

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I agree, but it's all designed to enrich certain people at the expense of everyone else. It's so much easier to steal money when it's called "aid". Once it's out of the country it's easy to confuse the money trail.

Can you tell me where your country failed you, so I can understand where you come from? 

 

Coming from one of the very top 5 countries in the world to live, simular to NZ, and even I know 10- 12% in our country is very unhappy with our government, most people do have a good life here. 

 

Most people who are unhappy, had a rough childhood because parents did not have the abilities to take good care, or mental challenged, started a rough criminal path and was caught, addicts, or got to wealthy to fast and think they deserves the world and not own anything in return. Even they had free Healthcare and social security as well education paid by the tax payers. 

 

There will always be some who get spoilt, and can not connect to what possibilities they have or their responsibilities 

[mogandave]

Just now, sqwakvfr said:

So a millionaire is in the 1%?  Most professional athletes are millionaires.  

No. Earning a million a year. Just having a million won’t do it.

 

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Can you tell me where your country failed you, so I can understand where you come from? 

 

Coming from one of the very top 5 countries in the world to live, simular to NZ, and even I know 10- 12% in our country is very unhappy with our government, most people do have a good life here. 

 

Most people who are unhappy, had a rough childhood because parents did not have the abilities to take good care, or mental challenged, started a rough criminal path and was caught, addicts, or got to wealthy to fast and think they deserves the world and not own anything in return. Even they had free Healthcare and social security as well education paid by the tax payers. 

 

There will always be some who get spoilt, and can not connect to what possibilities they have or their responsibilities 

I'm certainly not going to put any reasons on here where the wrong people can see it.

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I agree, but it's all designed to enrich certain people at the expense of everyone else. It's so much easier to steal money when it's called "aid". Once it's out of the country it's easy to confuse the money trail.

I forgot,.many of the billionaires make infrastructure and work for the masses, and where I come from, they also have responsibilities to treat their employees well with respect and dignity. 

 

In Usa it is a different world, when it comes to abusive employers who take advantage for low pay, long hours and very little holidays

[Lacessit]

7 hours ago, sungod said:

 

Maybe some of the extremely oil rich Arab nations could step in and take up the slack.

They won't even give their women the vote, what makes you think they would give money to people that used to be part of their flourishing slave trade?

[sqwakvfr]

7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

No. Earning a million a year. Just having a million won’t do it.

 

 

 

 

Right just look at some of the salaries of professional athletes in the US and Europe. The minimum salary for anyone playing in the National Football League is $795,000

[bannork]

37 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

This year thousands of innocent children will die. Life isn't fair, and to single out one segment is avoiding reality.

I do wonder how some are able to ignore all the other innocents dying and focus on one segment in order to castigate Trump though.

No one is ignoring all the innocent children dying around the world in Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan and several other parts of Africa but this thread is about Trump's halt to foreign aid and its effect.

 

[Hummin]

20 minutes ago, mogandave said:

About 20 million people in the US are in the top 1%

Hm, population in Usa only gives you 3,45 million people as 1%

 

1% of Us population makes 500k or more a year

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/12/23/more-than-1-million-people-in-u-s-earn-500000-or-more/

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Hm, population in Usa only gives you 3,45 million people as 1%

 

1% of Us population makes 500k or more a year

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/12/23/more-than-1-million-people-in-u-s-earn-500000-or-more/

Global 1%. The discussion was about who controlled the world.

 

And you are conflating income with wealth.

 

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Global 1%. The discussion was about who controlled the world.

 

And you are conflating income with wealth.

 

I stand corrected

[cjinchiangrai]

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

Then who would get the "stolen" money? 

Trump and his billionaire buddies. Price of admission to the club he will never really be in.

[cjinchiangrai]

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

So Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk?  This is because Trump is no where near the 1% level.  

He wants to be but he is too stupid. The billionaire bros ae laughing at him all the way to the bank.

[Hummin]

3 hours ago, Screaming said:

"His style" is to Make American Great Again and that is what the American voters voted for. Time for other countries to suck up and make it on their own.

In the end, Usa will get paid for their greed, nobody wants nothing to do with you guys anymore. Sorry to say, but you sold out your tech long time ago, and China and other countries doing to new inventions faster and more reliable than you guys can do, and at the same time your best engineers and scientists running to better countries

[baansgr]

3rd world has been receiving trillions in handouts over the past 60 years and still can't get their act together...and as for mentioning Rhodesia...they asked for independence and the racist Mugabe caused their own problems...and to top it all the 3rd won't leave us alone by invading the very people that have been helping them..not one baht should be sent to these cr@pholes

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

In the end, Usa will get paid for their greed, nobody wants nothing to do with you guys anymore.

Im sure your lot will be hiding behind our butt when the Ivans come to take your oil away. You couldnt even beat the Germans.

 

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

and at the same time your best engineers and scientists running to better countrie

Show us the stats of the n umber of engineers and scientists we are losing? Where are they going?

[connda]

6 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Because the same order cut off funding for Medicaid and the VA too. He is not taking care of Americans at home, he is setting up to steal the one for himself.

Can you source that.  Legit question.  I dug into and haven't found that neither Medicaid or the VA have had funding explicitly cut.
FYI about VA - speaking as a US veteran.  The VA doesn't do f***-all for me.  I'm a cold war vet and not a "Veteran Of Foreign Wars," which btw, nobody is as Congress hasn't declared "war" since WWII. When I show up they whip out their "Johnson" and spray me down with the yellow fluid.  Cold War veterans as far as the US government is concerned aren't "real veterans."  But with that said - the programs even for vets f'ed up in combat sucks.  But nothing I've read indicates that they'll be deprived of needed services, and those men and women who were injured deserve everything the US can give them and more.  Other than that, the VA is an abomination - it doesn't nothing for me at all. Never has, never will. So?  I don't really care.

[cjinchiangrai]

49 minutes ago, connda said:

Can you source that.  Legit question.  I dug into and haven't found that neither Medicaid or the VA have had funding explicitly cut.
FYI about VA - speaking as a US veteran.  The VA doesn't do f***-all for me.  I'm a cold war vet and not a "Veteran Of Foreign Wars," which btw, nobody is as Congress hasn't declared "war" since WWII. When I show up they whip out their "Johnson" and spray me down with the yellow fluid.  Cold War veterans as far as the US government is concerned aren't "real veterans."  But with that said - the programs even for vets f'ed up in combat sucks.  But nothing I've read indicates that they'll be deprived of needed services, and those men and women who were injured deserve everything the US can give them and more.  Other than that, the VA is an abomination - it doesn't nothing for me at all. Never has, never will. So?  I don't really care.

The funding has not been cut, that is a function of congress. The order cut off disbursement of money. They also shut down the billing portals so payees cannot submit invoices. A judge has ruled against it and a hearing has been scheduled for next week.

[Jack100]

Seems to me the only long term solution to this never ending problem is to
bring in that world renown Russian birth control specialist.

DR

[Andre0720]

Such a surprise for me. Quite stunned actually.

Trump is claiming that he wants to make America first.

Just like, at a lower scale, most everybody wants to make his or her family first.

To a point of not knowing anybody capable of empathy, as some members are claiming that Trump has none of that.

All the world is comprised of small entities, called families.

And all aid is within the confines of the family.

I know one person who with me, provides help to less fortunate people.

As all I see around me, including all of my family and friends, are cheap charlies, who would not give a dollar to charity.

And in this forum, all these members who want to help, give out money, to people that they do not know.

Well,of course, as long as it is not their own money of course.

 

Our leaders steal money to give away to people who would not receive anything individually.

Strange... But as long as it does not come out of their own bank account, then empathy...., or is it?

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Can you tell me where your country failed you, so I can understand where you come from? 

 

Coming from one of the very top 5 countries in the world to live, simular to NZ, and even I know 10- 12% in our country is very unhappy with our government, most people do have a good life here. 

 

Most people who are unhappy, had a rough childhood because parents did not have the abilities to take good care, or mental challenged, started a rough criminal path and was caught, addicts, or got to wealthy to fast and think they deserves the world and not own anything in return. Even they had free Healthcare and social security as well education paid by the tax payers. 

 

There will always be some who get spoilt, and can not connect to what possibilities they have or their responsibilities 

 

   Then get YOUR Country try to send aid money abroad . 

The USA has a huge debt that it needs to service

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

In the end, Usa will get paid for their greed, 

 

   Greed ?

The USA has by far the Worlds biggest debt .

The USA are huge amounts borrowing money so some Africans have have sex without condoms and the USA pays for the consequences through abortions or HiV drugs 

[oxo1947]

A death sentence for some......