Migrants in UK: The Challenge of Integration

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By the 1980s, Britain had emerged as a relatively civilised and cohesive society, but some of those hard-won social advances now appear to be under strain. A recent case highlights this concern: a sexagenarian was arrested for allegedly using wigs and disguises to take British citizenship tests on behalf of over a dozen applicants. This incident suggests that some individuals are so determined to settle in Britain that they are willing to bypass the very requirements meant to ensure their integration. It is possible that their English proficiency was too limited to answer even basic multiple-choice questions like, "St Andrews is the patron saint of which country?"

 

Such a case exposes the weaknesses of the citizenship test itself—both in terms of its content and its effectiveness. The 45-minute exam, which can be repeatedly attempted until passed, seems incapable of assessing an applicant’s commitment to British values, institutions, and traditions. A simple online practice test makes it clear that the system fails to measure a person’s willingness to assimilate. How many applicants are genuinely drawn to British culture, rather than merely seeking practical benefits?

 

Recent projections from the Office for National Statistics indicate that net migration could push the UK’s population to 72.5 million by 2032. Despite this, political leaders appear strikingly indifferent to the broader implications of such demographic shifts on social and cultural cohesion.

 

Following the Second World War, fewer than one in 25 people in Britain had been born abroad. Today, that figure stands at roughly one in seven. The first major wave of migrants, the Windrush generation, mostly came from the Caribbean, spoke English, and shared a Christian heritage. In contrast, research from Policy Exchange now identifies over two dozen communities in Britain where at least 100,000 residents were born overseas.

 

The scale of this diversity is immense. British citizens today speak a wide range of languages, practice different religions, and adhere to varied traditions. This raises the question: how can a society foster mutual responsibility, a shared sense of purpose, and national solidarity amid such deep cultural differences?

 

There is no clear answer, and few are willing to ask the question. A core contradiction in the multiculturalism debate remains unresolved—while we are encouraged to celebrate an increasingly diverse and dynamic society, we are simultaneously expected to maintain a unified set of values. This paradox demands scrutiny.

 

Britain is undeniably changing. A recent survey found that one in five voters under 45 would prefer to abolish democracy. Meanwhile, BBC In Depth reported shifting moral perspectives, with "disapproval of various underhand activities [falling] noticeably." Additionally, alcohol consumption has been steadily declining since the mid-2000s, particularly among Gen Z.

 

Oddly missing from analyses of these shifts is the potential influence of high migration levels. Instead, the BBC attributes these changes to the usual suspects: social media, politicians, and corporations. While these factors undoubtedly play a role, corruption and unethical business practices have existed in Britain for centuries, and modern corporations are arguably more ethically conscious than in the past.

 

By the 1980s, Britain had firmly established itself as a progressive and orderly society. Capital and corporal punishment had been abolished. Homosexuality had been decriminalised. Nepotism, bribery, and tribal loyalty had been pushed aside. Secular education was firmly in place, women’s rights had been dramatically expanded, and the principle that nobody is above the law was widely respected. These advances were built on a strong sense of national identity and pride.

 

Yet some of these values are now being eroded. Part of this can be attributed to progressive policies championed by Tory politicians, the increasing influence of "woke" ideology in institutions, and the denigration of British history. What remains unclear is the precise role of mass migration in these societal changes.

 

Today, only 64 per cent of people express pride in Britain’s history. When four schoolboys accidentally scuffed a Koran, they were suspended, and police recorded it as a non-crime hate incident. Meanwhile, efforts to redefine Islamophobia risk introducing a de facto blasphemy law. Concerns over electoral integrity have also been raised, with Tory politicians warning of the "abuse of postal votes" and instances where heads of households reportedly complete ballots on behalf of entire families.

 

"We’re at a crossroads," says academic Dr Rakib Ehsan. "There is a lack of political leadership over these issues – and they won’t go away." Ensuring successful integration in a multi-ethnic society requires active effort. To assume that it will happen passively, through some mysterious process of osmosis, is a dangerous mistake.

 

Based on a report by Daily Telegraph 2025-01-31

 

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[jippytum]

immigrants especially Muslims do not intergrate into societies.  they prefer to have their own justice systems and favour Sharia laws and customs. 

[loong]

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

"St Andrews is the patron saint of which country?"

Who is St Andrews?

St Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland, but I have never heard of St Andrews.

[digger70]

1 hour ago, jippytum said:

immigrants especially Muslims do not intergrate into societies.  they prefer to have their own justice systems and favour Sharia laws and customs. 

If they like their system and Believes that  Much Why In Satans Name are they in Britain??  Send Them  Back home .Be like DT Have the Guts to Do it.   😇

[proton]

31 minutes ago, digger70 said:

If they like their system and Believes that  Much Why In Satans Name are they in Britain??  Send Them  Back home .Be like DT Have the Guts to Do it.   😇

 

Freedom for themselves and benefits, most muslim immigrants do not work, especially woman

[MalcolmB]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

Meanwhile, efforts to redefine Islamophobia risk introducing a de facto blasphemy law.

It just shows how low intelligence we are fighting over “religion”.

It is complete nonsense, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism etc

It is amazing people still be in all the garbage.

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, jippytum said:

immigrants especially Muslims do not intergrate into societies.  they prefer to have their own justice systems and favour Sharia laws and customs. 

How is your integrating with Thai society going?

 

Do you think that Muslim women when immigrating to the UK should take up getting pass out drunk, start snorting cocaine in club toilets, pop Es, dress up like tarts, cover themselves in tattoos and slut around? 
 

It must be a bit of culture shock to see the behavior of our women I think.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

This raises the question: how can a society foster mutual responsibility, a shared sense of purpose, and national solidarity amid such deep cultural differences?

We don’t exactly have a good record on fitting in, respecting and integrating into other countries cultures when we have immigrated.

Scotland, Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand etc we enforced our legal systems, language and religion on the local populations.

 

But now we complain?

 

Karma?

[PomPolo]

7 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

start snoring cocaine in club toilets

Couldn't possibly do that it would blow it everywhere

[Chomper Higgot]

20 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Freedom for themselves and benefits, most muslim immigrants do not work, especially woman

Yet more baseless garbage 

[PomPolo]

8 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

cover themselves in tattoos and slut around?

As long as they are not wearing those black storm trooper dresses

[MalcolmB]

20 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Freedom for themselves and benefits, most muslim immigrants do not work, especially woman

That is the racist rhetoric, most Muslims of working age in the UK are employed.

And what is your job in Thailand?

How well have you integrated? You are always saying that the only thing you like about Thailand is the music. And complain about most other parts of Thai society.

 

Pot, kettle, black.

[MalcolmB]

4 minutes ago, PomPolo said:

Couldn't possibly do that it would blow it everywhere

You just have to time it right, on the inhale.

[Andre0720]

17 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

How is your integrating with Thai society going?

 

Do you think that Muslim women when immigrating to the UK should take up getting pass out drunk, start snoring cocaine in club toilets, pop Es, dress up like tarts, cover themselves in tattoos and slut around? 
 

It must be a bit of culture shock to see the behavior of our women I think.

 

 

Actually, foreigners integrate very well in Thai society.

When we realize that prostitution was a result of so many women not wanting anything to do with so many of the men in this country. A baby, no support from the genitor, along with no financial support from these selfish beings.

So many women remain single after that. And many men are using prostitution for sexual gratification. To a point where women took a number, and became an object in Thai Massage spas, mainly in large hotels. So they made the men pay now...

 

And many foreigners integrated in this society, where many women started this business in smaller spas, but the result is the same, except that now foreigners have integrated.

 

And Foreigners do not call for the eradication of Buddhism here, with threats of violence for non-compliance. Foreigners accept that people have their own delusion about spirituality.

 

And I would hope that your description of UK women is based only on the leisure domains that you choose to visit...

But I agree that Muslim women, while spending time and resources on facial enhancement procedures, that the rest of their bodies is not 'willfully mutilated', using ugly permanent ink designs, done by people ironically calling themselves 'artists'.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

Actually, foreigners integrate very well in Thai society.

When we realize that prostitution was a result of so many women not wanting anything to do with so many of the men in this country. A baby, no support from the genitor, along with no financial support from these selfish beings.

So many women remain single after that. And many men are using prostitution for sexual gratification. To a point where women took a number, and became an object in Thai Massage spas, mainly in large hotels. So they made the men pay now...

 

And many foreigners integrated in this society, where many women started this business in smaller spas, but the result is the same, except that now foreigners have integrated.

 

And Foreigners do not call for the eradication of Buddhism here, with threats of violence for non-compliance. Foreigners accept that people have their own delusion about spirituality.

 

And I would hope that your description of UK women is based only on the leisure domains that you choose to visit...

But I agree that Muslim women, while spending time and resources on facial enhancement procedures, that the rest of their bodies is not 'willfully mutilated', using ugly permanent ink designs, done by people ironically calling themselves 'artists'.

The next time a foreigner in Thailand commits a heinous crime, do you mind if I associate you with the crime?

 

[proton]

33 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

That is the racist rhetoric, most Muslims of working age in the UK are employed.

And what is your job in Thailand?

How well have you integrated? You are always saying that the only thing you like about Thailand is the music. And complain about most other parts of Thai society.

 

Pot, kettle, black.

 

Most muslims in the UK are not employed, very few woman. The topic is about migrants in the UK, not migrants in Thailand or their opinions of it.

 

It has gone down from this last office of national statistics report

 

• In 2021, people who identified as "Muslim" had the lowest percentage of people aged 16 to 64 years in employment (51.4% compared with 70.9% of the overall population); 

[Andre0720]

28 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

That is the racist rhetoric, most Muslims of working age in the UK are employed.

And what is your job in Thailand?

How well have you integrated? You are always saying that the only thing you like about Thailand is the music. And complain about most other parts of Thai society.

 

Pot, kettle, black.

This word 'racist' is known to be used in replacement of a narrative that people can understand.

So the word is not 'racist', it is all about 'culture'.

 

In many ways, integration in Thai society is possible, but it does not mean that foreigners should accept all non-civilized behaviors.

And most religions, while all born from brainwashing of kids, are simply delusions. And most of these delusions do not favor violence.

And there is an exception to that. But one must keep in mind that Asian Muslims are far away from the extremism of Arab Muslims..

And yes, yes, yes, many Arab Muslims are so nice people....

 

[proton]

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yet more baseless garbage 

 

Backed up by government statistics, most of them are bone idle benefit claimants. The 2 or 3 extra wife's some muslims have claim as single mothers

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

Backed up by government statistics, most of them are bone idle benefit claimants. The 2 or 3 extra wife's some muslims have claim as single mothers

Government statistics you fail to produce.

[proton]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Government statistics you fail to produce.

 Just have, look the latest ones up, or do you know better than Nigel?

 

[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

"St Andrews is the patron saint of which country?"

I'm not so familiär with these Royals....

Is it about " randy Andy"??😳

[Andre0720]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The next time a foreigner in Thailand commits a heinous crime, do you mind if I associate you with the crime?

 

Well, you are not a reference for anything that has to do with logic, syllogism, sophism and the like.

 

Something like: "The next time someone associates with LGBTQ++++, do you mind if I associate you with this claim?

 

Do you see the problem in this logic???

[rocketboy2]

Nice to see AN's  resident troll out in force on this thread.  yawn, 

[baansgr]

33 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

This thread is going to be a classic.

 

A whole bunch of old immigrants in Thailand, many of which who have married local upstanding women from the “nightlife” industry, who can’t string a Thai sentence together despite being here for years or decades working themselves up into a frothing frenzy over immigrants to a country they have left.

 

Carry on.

But there is a big difference, those expats that you so eloquently describe, made it here on their own buck and still are...unlike the oh so I am a white apologist description of the masses of immigrants to UK that are a net benefit to the country...The facts and figures are all out there, don't forget, diversity is our strength...we have a choice of curries to eat but nowt else

[JonnyF]

They do not want to integrate.

 

They set up little pockets, create Sharia courts, do not mix with indigenous people.

 

That's why the experiment has failed. At a massive cost to Britain.

 

Diversity is our greatest weakness. 

[herfiehandbag]

In respect of the criticism of expatriates in Thailand, and our "integration" into Thai society: we do not expect and demand that the indigenous society allow us to practice religious or society customs which may be abhorrent to them, do not offer or actually commit violence to further what we see as our distinct legal and social systems, and do not expect to be funded by the society to which we have come to live.

 

So we do not demand that Thai religious holidays be not celebrated. If (for reasons of religious custom) some of us don't eat meat on Fridays we don't object to others eating meat around us. If ( for reasons I don't begin to understand) some of us don't drink alcohol we don't demand that it be banned.

 

That is rather the difference between the western expatriate community in Thailand and large swathes of the Muslim immigrant community in Europe.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

 

The UK was a multiracial society, very successfully, from the 1950’s through to the 1990’s with beneficial integration from immigrants of different races and cultures. The real problem started when immigrants that are adherents to Islam started arriving, with their refusal to even attempt to integrate, but rather a dictum to start parallel societies within the UK, which they have done.

 

There are already 85, and counting, known Sharia councils in the UK, and every one of them promote hate preaching, honour killings, the subjugation of women, the persecution of gays, and the female genital mutilation of children. They also promote middle aged uncles marrying (several) of their prepubescent nieces; this is hugely popular with the menfolk, not so much with the schoolgirls.

 

It is the insular nature of these Sharia councils within communities that has fostered, enabled, and protected the myriad muslim rape gangs; making integration impossible for most of them, because they have been indoctrinated into believing that it is wrong to integrate with infidels; whilst a few well educated muslims have integrated to an extent, they have moved away from the vicelike  grip of their original communities.

 

Whilst the left wing virtue signallers (including several of the usual suspects on here) try to shut down any conversation about it, by screaming Islamophobe, racist, bigot, or xenophobe, the UK’s march towards an Islamic state, or a civil war, gathers a momentum that it appears cannot be reversed

 

…. Private Frazer was right on the money ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

How is your integrating with Thai society going?

 

Most are on a Non-Immigrant visa.

 

Why have to integrate when you are not an immigrant?

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, baansgr said:

But there is a big difference, those expats that you so eloquently describe, made it here on their own buck and still are...unlike the oh so I am a white apologist description of the masses of immigrants to UK that are a net benefit to the country...The facts and figures are all out there, don't forget, diversity is our strength...we have a choice of curries to eat but nowt else

Facts and figures you fail to produce.

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Scotland, Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand etc we enforced our legal systems, language and religion on the local populations.

 

Scotland has its own legal system, language, and religion.