Do covid-19 mRNA vaccines cause Turbo-cancers?

[Dan O]

19 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

#1 - Yes, a pure disgrace that Kariko and Weismann were awarded the Nobel Prize for Medicine for their work on development of mRNA gen therapy.  

There is of course a precedent > António Egas Moniz (1874-1955) won the 1949 Nobel Prize in medicine for developing the prefrontal lobotomy, a surgical procedure that severed brain tissue to treat psychiatric disorders

 

#2 - Obviously the article by dr Sayed is not peer-reviewed, as it is not a 'scientific study' on a research-subject, but rather an essay explaining his insights in the link between the covid-jabs and the explosion in cancers.  He published it on his own substack and all readers can provide comments.

 

#3 - Dr John Campbell was initially a firm believer in 'the $cience' but the evidence became so overwhelming that we were conned by Big Pharma and their bought complicit mainstream media, that he 'fell from grace' despite him being as objective as possible and always providing the facts and data that he was commenting on. 

quoting Dr Campell as a source is weak at best. He was originally very instructive in being able to explain scientific papers and what the wording meant as words in this medical studies dont always mean what they appear to mean in normal use so he gave good context to that aspect. Aside from that he isnt a Medical Doctor as many would think. He holds a PhD but in Nursing and Digital teaching specifically.

 

From his bio: Dr. John Campbell earned his PhD in Nursing from the University of Bolton. His doctoral research focused on developing methods of teaching via digital media, such as online videos

[Dan O]

3 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

In my post I provided the link to the case-report that prof Goldman published about his own case (co-authored with 6 of his colleagues). 

Clicking within the page featured on that link [ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34901098/ ] you can read the full case-report here

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/medicine/articles/10.3389/fmed.2021.798095/full

 

Note that prof Goldman and his colleagues do not share your opinion that for this case "a rapid spread is not uncommon at all".

 

a case report or study isnt a peer reviewed paper with sufficient supporting data so is limited in its content and context. Spread is based on a variety of factors and without sufficient data evaluation of other factors its a guess at best

[rattlesnake]

31 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Are you not aware that many doctors in Australia had their license revoked when not parroting the official Public Health narrative about Covid and vaccination? 

 

As confirmed by former Australian MP Dr Kerryn Phelps, who was initially pro-vaccine but changed her stance after she and her partner were both seriously injured.

 

Dr Kerryn Phelps reveals ‘devastating’ Covid vaccine injury, says doctors have been ‘censored’

Dr Kerryn Phelps has broken her silence about a “devastating” Covid vaccine injury, slamming regulators for “censoring” public discussion with “threats” to doctors.

[…]

She revealed she had spoken with other doctors “who have themselves experienced a serious and persistent adverse event” but that “vaccine injury is a subject that few in the medical profession have wanted to talk about”.

“Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that ‘might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout’ or risk suspension or loss of their registration,” she said.

 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/dr-kerryn-phelps-reveals-devastating-covid-vaccine-injury-says-doctors-have-been-censored/news-story/0c1fa02818c99a5ff65f5bf852a382cf

[Red Phoenix]

8 minutes ago, Dan O said:

quoting Dr Campell as a source is weak at best. He was originally very instructive in being able to explain scientific papers and what the wording meant as words in this medical studies dont always mean what they appear to mean in normal use so he gave good context to that aspect. Aside from that he isnt a Medical Doctor as many would think. He holds a PhD but in Nursing and Digital teaching specifically.

 

From his bio: Dr. John Campbell earned his PhD in Nursing from the University of Bolton. His doctoral research focused on developing methods of teaching via digital media, such as online videos

 

Lol, the article by dr Sayed contains indeed a 40" excerpt from a 2022 video by dr John Campbell.  And in that fragment Campbell cites the official response from Public Health Scotland about a question related to Covid-vaccine safety:

"We do not have any plans to examine maternal vaccination status, as there is no public health reason to do so"

> In the clip dr Campbell then pauses to 10 seconds to let the implications of that response sink in...

[Red Phoenix]

12 minutes ago, Dan O said:

a case report or study isnt a peer reviewed paper with sufficient supporting data so is limited in its content and context. Spread is based on a variety of factors and without sufficient data evaluation of other factors its a guess at best

Let me share the Conclusion and Patient Perspective of that pubished study by prof Goldman and his colleagues, as Goldman was NOT an anti-vaxxer (actually to the contrary).

> https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/medicine/articles/10.3389/fmed.2021.798095/full

Conclusion

This observation, which has been posted as a pre-print on the SSRN platform (18), suggests that vaccination with the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine might induce rapid progression of AITL. Dedicated studies are needed to determine whether this case can be extrapolated to populations of patients with AITL or other peripheral T cell lymphoma involving TFH cells.

Patient Perspective

The patient is the corresponding author of this case report. He hopes that this report will incentivize investigations to clarify the possible impact of anti-SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination on the course of AITL. He remains convinced that mRNA vaccines represent very efficient products with a favorable benefit-risk ratio.

> And here a link to an article about his demise from lymphoma-cancer:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2022/09/mrna-covid-vaccine-booster-lymphoma-cancer/671308/

[dinsdale]

Possibly. This is why a full, independent enquiry into the mRNA jabs is needed. As for our resident supporter of the CDC and the narrative surrounding and supporting these experimental gene therapy injections I would expect nothing less than Big Pharma/CDC backed articles to say this can't be the case. Bit like the articles posted saying the jabs were/are safe and effective. 

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Let me share the Conclusion and Patient Perspective of that pubished study by prof Goldman and his colleagues, as Goldman was NOT an anti-vaxxer (actually to the contrary).

> https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/medicine/articles/10.3389/fmed.2021.798095/full

Conclusion

This observation, which has been posted as a pre-print on the SSRN platform (18), suggests that vaccination with the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine might induce rapid progression of AITL. Dedicated studies are needed to determine whether this case can be extrapolated to populations of patients with AITL or other peripheral T cell lymphoma involving TFH cells.

Patient Perspective

The patient is the corresponding author of this case report. He hopes that this report will incentivize investigations to clarify the possible impact of anti-SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination on the course of AITL. He remains convinced that mRNA vaccines represent very efficient products with a favorable benefit-risk ratio.

> And here a link to an article about his demise from lymphoma-cancer:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2022/09/mrna-covid-vaccine-booster-lymphoma-cancer/671308/

Do you have any clue what this language means in a scientific\medical perspective case study? Do you have any medical background or experience?  I think not so your posting things for your own agenda without really understanding what the language means

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Lol, the article by dr Sayed contains indeed a 40" excerpt from a 2022 video by dr John Campbell.  And in that fragment Campbell cites the official response from Public Health Scotland about a question related to Covid-vaccine safety:

"We do not have any plans to examine maternal vaccination status, as there is no public health reason to do so"

> In the clip dr Campbell then pauses to 10 seconds to let the implications of that response sink in...

Again he is not a medical doctor he has a PhD as a nurse educator.  As I explained he was very good at the beginning explaining what medical jargon means as it does not mean the same as the same words used in general conversations.  Again I stand by what I said and you seem to have little knowledge and understanding of his creditials 

[farang51]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

As I mentioned in the opening post of this thread dr Ah Kahn Syed is a pseudonym used by this Australian MD which allows him to speak his mind and provide his deep-dive insights on his ArkMedic substack.

So, you have no idea if the person is really a doctor. Are you really that gullable? (no need to answer that question)

 

By the way, being a doctor is no gurantee of being right, especially not if a lot of other doctors disagree.

[Red Phoenix]

31 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Do you have any clue what this language means in a scientific\medical perspective case study? Do you have any medical background or experience?  I think not so your posting things for your own agenda without really understanding what the language means

Thinking wrong as usual...

[Red Phoenix]

11 minutes ago, farang51 said:

So, you have no idea if the person is really a doctor. Are you really that gullable? (no need to answer that question)

 

By the way, being a doctor is no gurantee of being right, especially not if a lot of other doctors disagree.

 

OK, anything that rocks your denial boat...

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Thinking wrong as usual...

Nope just a question and I presume since you didn't answer your really don't know what terms in medical studies and work

really mean. 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

36 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Nope just a question and I presume since you didn't answer your really don't know what terms in medical studies and work

really mean.

Presuming wrong...

[proton]

3 hours ago, Dan O said:

Again he is not a medical doctor he has a PhD as a nurse educator.  As I explained he was very good at the beginning explaining what medical jargon means as it does not mean the same as the same words used in general conversations.  Again I stand by what I said and you seem to have little knowledge and understanding of his creditials 

 

Exactly Campell is a nurse, not a medical Doctor. calling him one is like suggesting a brick layer is an architect. His knowledge of pharmaceuticals and the cause of disease is no better than anyone else's, bed pans and bandages then he's your man. 

[Red Phoenix]

16 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Exactly Campell is a nurse, not a medical Doctor. calling him one is like suggesting a brick layer is an architect. His knowledge of pharmaceuticals and the cause of disease is no better than anyone else's, bed pans and bandages then he's your man. 

And the Award for the most idiotic comment goes to ... PROTON!

[connda]

24 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Exactly Campell is a nurse, not a medical Doctor. calling him one is like suggesting a brick layer is an architect. His knowledge of pharmaceuticals and the cause of disease is no better than anyone else's, bed pans and bandages then he's your man. 

Stay up to date on your boosters then.  Safe and Effective! 

[atpeace]

I really don't care much at this point if the vaccines were a net positive or negative.  I simply wanted to be allowed to have a semi normal life while in Thailand without being forced to get jabbed.  I finally got vaccinated multiple times just so I could participate in events I enjoy. 

 

I get that many feared for their life but I wasn't concerned in the slightest.  I'm extremely fit and wish I could have simply avoided situations that I deemed risky.  Great that the herd of evil do gooders here on AseanNow can't cancel posters as they did 3 years ago. Follow the science - barf.

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Exactly Campell is a nurse, not a medical Doctor. calling him one is like suggesting a brick layer is an architect. His knowledge of pharmaceuticals and the cause of disease is no better than anyone else's, bed pans and bandages then he's your man. 

It was sad to see his decline from being very helpful personal explaining what words , phrases and terms really mean in medical documents or what procedure were or do. He then went down the rabbit hole of being an opinionated anti vaxer

[farang51]

16 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

OK, anything that rocks your denial boat...

That was funny - and sad.

 

On one hand you have people educated to find answers and solution, experts that have used many years learning what they know.

 

On the other hand you have people with no formal education in the subject, people that do not understand the subject, and people that just wants to make a fuss. And also people that wants to make a buck from other people, even as they know what they say is wrong.

 

And you say that the people listening to the first group is in denial.

 

The really sad thing is that people in the second group is causing people to die. COVID is not that dangerous anymore but people still die of it. Even worse is that the group makes more people avoid vaccination for their kids against other deceases like measles and polio and probably also the virus causing the next pandemic.

[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, farang51 said:

The really sad thing is that people in the second group is causing people to die. COVID is not that dangerous anymore but people still die of it. Even worse is that the group makes more people avoid vaccination for their kids against other deceases like measles and polio and probably also the virus causing the next pandemic.

I don't agree with you Sir.

 

People in the second group (as you say) are generally awake to the nonsense, hoaxes and frauds in the scientific world.

I can tell you now; no-one has died from covid. It never was dangerous, cause it don't exist. And IMO, not vaccinating yer kids, is a giant step forward for ensuring their future well-being.

 

'',,,virus causing the next pandemic.'' Turn the television off Sir. Stop watching that endless propaganda. Dear me!

 

Get with nature I say. It has all the answers we seek. 

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I don't agree with you Sir.

 

People in the second group (as you say) are generally awake to the nonsense, hoaxes and frauds in the scientific world.

I can tell you now; no-one has died from covid. It never was dangerous, cause it don't exist. And IMO, not vaccinating yer kids, is a giant step forward for ensuring their future well-being.

 

'',,,virus causing the next pandemic.'' Turn the television off Sir. Stop watching that endless propaganda. Dear me!

 

Get with nature I say. It has all the answers we seek. 

Your posting completely false information on no covid deaths and I challenge you to provide proof with a link , not an opinion.

 

 

As for your opinion on the second group your use of the phrase "awake"  group you imply group one is asleep and has no informed position but only people in group two do have an informed opinion.

 

Thats categorically incorrect and shows your lack of understanding of the situation. Its hard enough to make a judgment of what to do with the information available, pro or con. But when you start throwing in lies it makes it extremely difficult and possibly dangerous for people that hear the exaggerations to make a good decision for themselves. Its their choice not yours.

[Red Phoenix]

4 hours ago, farang51 said:

...

On one hand you have people educated to find answers and solution, experts that have used many years learning what they know.

On the other hand you have people with no formal education in the subject, people that do not understand the subject, and people that just wants to make a fuss. And also people that wants to make a buck from other people, even as they know what they say is wrong.

...

Rather strange reasoning you apply here.

How exactly do people that argue AGAINST vaccination, 'make a buck from other people, even as they know what they say is wrong'? 

[farang51]

29 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

How exactly do people that argue AGAINST vaccination, 'make a buck from other people, even as they know what they say is wrong'? 

It is very easy: Because stupid people are willing to pay them.

 

"Kennedy has pulled in roughly $10 million in income from his work over the past year, which includes speaking fees, leading an anti-vaccine nonprofit and legal fees, government ethics forms filed for his nomination show. He has millions of dollars more tied up in investments and other assets. "

Source: https://apnews.com/article/rfk-money-vaccines-salary-trump-cfd26a0d9e88e901b596f823a6f766f2

 

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, farang51 said:

It is very easy: Because stupid people are willing to pay them.

 

"Kennedy has pulled in roughly $10 million in income from his work over the past year, which includes speaking fees, leading an anti-vaccine nonprofit and legal fees, government ethics forms filed for his nomination show. He has millions of dollars more tied up in investments and other assets. "

Source: https://apnews.com/article/rfk-money-vaccines-salary-trump-cfd26a0d9e88e901b596f823a6f766f2

 

Interesting...

And you will undoubtedly also find this table interesting

As you go down the list, nearly every senator who gave RFK Jr. a hard time during the hearing was a beneficiary of major pharma bucks. 

Bernie Sanders and Elisabeth Warren respectively for +23 and +10 million US $

 

[farang51]

49 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

And you will undoubtedly also find this table interesting

As you go down the list, nearly every senator who gave RFK Jr. a hard time during the hearing was a beneficiary of major pharma bucks. 

And so what. As long as they adhere to experts and science instead of conspiracy theories and looneys.

The thing is, that you didn't believe that people arguing against science can make a buck, and surely they can.

[farang51]

In other words: By all means, do look at the economic interest of people and take that into account - but the important part is the data, not the money.

 

Some people do crazy things not for money but because the believe them - and some people are just trolling, like Stiddle Mump.

 

Again, the data is the important part.

[Stiddle Mump]

6 hours ago, Dan O said:

Your posting completely false information on no covid deaths and I challenge you to provide proof with a link , not an opinion.

 

As for your opinion on the second group your use of the phrase "awake"  group you imply group one is asleep and has no informed position but only people in group two do have an informed opinion.

 

Thats categorically incorrect and shows your lack of understanding of the situation. Its hard enough to make a judgment of what to do with the information available, pro or con. But when you start throwing in lies it makes it extremely difficult and possibly dangerous for people that hear the exaggerations to make a good decision for themselves. Its their choice not yours.

Nothing I post, whether it is on this thread, or the cancer one I recently opened up, is false. The two threads are linked by the word 'cancer'. We need debate on this topic.

 

I do know what I'm talking about Sir. There is no evidence that a virus called 'covid' ever existed. For that matter; any virus has existed. And if no virus ever existed; what's the point of vaxxes?

 

Can't you see that it's all made up nonsense.

 

As for the second group being awake, well some are certainly more awake than the sheep who simply believe, without question, what is coming out of someone's mouth because they are wearing a white coat or on the BBC/CNN. I've said it before, but it's worth saying again; most white-coats either don't know what they are talking about, or they have taken a few bob to shut up and do as requested. Or,,,,! Let's wait for Epstein;s client list shall we?

 

 

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nothing I post, whether it is on this thread, or the cancer one I recently opened up, is false. The two threads are linked by the word 'cancer'. We need debate on this topic.

 

I do know what I'm talking about Sir. There is no evidence that a virus called 'covid' ever existed. For that matter; any virus has existed. And if no virus ever existed; what's the point of vaxxes?

 

Can't you see that it's all made up nonsense.

 

As for the second group being awake, well some are certainly more awake than the sheep who simply believe, without question, what is coming out of someone's mouth because they are wearing a white coat or on the BBC/CNN. I've said it before, but it's worth saying again; most white-coats either don't know what they are talking about, or they have taken a few bob to shut up and do as requested. Or,,,,! Let's wait for Epstein;s client list shall we?

 

 

Everything you just wrote is false!

 

Post a link supporting there was no covid virus or any other virus EVER! I worked in the medical industry for 25 years in Regulatory Compliance between our company and the FDA. Whats you credentials? Your Internet MD License is obviously expired. 

[Red Phoenix]

7 hours ago, Dan O said:

.... I worked in the medical industry for 25 years in Regulatory Compliance between our company and the FDA. ,,,

Explains a lot about your vehement stance supporting the 'deadly covid-virus' narrative.

Whose bread one eats, whose word one speaks...

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Explains a lot about your vehement stance supporting the 'deadly covid-virus' narrative.

Whose bread one eats, whose word one speaks...

Show me 1 post where I advocated for anyone to take the vaccine. Its a personal choice on all vaccine use and 1 size does not fit all people.

 

Your writing false statements about what I have posted and misleading people as usual. The only issues I've discussed and debated is the removal of false, misleading or fake information, which you have posted a number of times. I have cautioned people to do their own research and not follow the anti-vaxxer mentality like a sheep. While some of that information may be semi valid or have a grain of truth most of it is not if its not coming from a reputable source.

 

Health issues are complicated enough with an overwhelming amount of information and positions available of factual but possibly not relevant information specific to that person. But when people like you and several others start your conspiracy theory diatribes, posting known misleading and unverified "facts" it makes it almost impossible to make a solid informed decision. So put up or shut up and show where I have told anyone they must get a vaccine for covid!  Im sure it will take you a while to look for one ( I know you wont bother) so I dont expect to hear back from you that I posted one. I do expect to hear back some bs comment deflecting and gaslighting the issue in discussion like you already have.