The temporal protection and declining health of the COVID-19 vaccinated in England

[cjinchiangrai]

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why are you even entertaining these biased 'fact-checkers'?

 

Why don't you take note of people that actually know what they are talking about?

A better question is why blatant disinformation gets published in the first place.

[Ben Zioner]

11 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

The pre-print of this Norwegian study by a team led by prof Jaarle Aarstad from the Western Norway University of Applied Sciences, is about to be peer-reviewed.

The title already says it all:

The temporal protection and declining health of the COVID-19 vaccinated in England: 

A 26-month comparison of the mortality involving and not involving COVID-19 among vaccinated vs. unvaccinated

 

But here the Study conclusions:

An interpretation is that vaccination, despite temporary protection, increased mortality. Strengthening the interpretation was relatively high mortality among vaccinated not involving COVID-19 counterintuitively following periods of excess mortality. Further strengthening the interpretation was relatively high mortality not involving COVID-19 among vaccinated corresponding with the excess mortality during the same period.

 

Source: https://f1000research.com/articles/14-133

 

Yep, looks like a reliable source, where I could publish on the flatness of the Earth and Donald's high IQ, "Without restrictions"...

[Stiddle Mump]

47 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

A better question is why blatant disinformation gets published in the first place.

Plenty of this disinformation out there for sure bro.

 

Fortunately my posts are rooted in the truth.

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Plenty of this disinformation out there for sure bro.

 

Fortunately my posts are rooted in the truth.

Anything anti-vax is rooted in blatant lies.

[Stiddle Mump]

3 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Anything anti-vax is rooted in blatant lies.

Really!!!

 

Could you point a finger to those white-coats who say so?

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Really!!!

 

Could you point a finger to those white-coats who say so?

NIH, CDC, WHO. They have plenty of white coats.

[Stiddle Mump]

15 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

NIH, CDC, WHO. They have plenty of white coats.

You are right Sir? They are stuffed full with white-coats all right.

 

But should we even give them the time of day? Half are on the take from Big Pharma, The other half are just plain stupid and don't know what they are talking about. They could do worse than join AN, and start reading my posts..

 

Look at the rubbish that is on the NIH www. Simply utter nonsense being put up as facts.. 

[Red Phoenix]

48 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Anything anti-vax is rooted in blatant lies.

It's clear that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

[Stiddle Mump]

7 hours ago, Samh said:

So the statistics of the dead and dieing were false. In the UK all the NHS staff reporting the crisis were lying. The offices reporting and certifying deaths were lying. All the members of the public reporting the deaths of loved ones were lying. My own son who was infected made up that he was ill. Some cover up.

I have relatives, friends and ex-associates entrenched in the NHS, and in the general UK Medical cycle. They certainly painted/paint a different picture to your post.

 

Lots of PCR testing == lots of covid cases. No PCR testing == no cases. And the effectiveness of the PCR test was a fraud in any case.

 

If I could be a tad intrusive Sir. What were the symptoms your son experienced?

[cjinchiangrai]

49 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are right Sir? They are stuffed full with white-coats all right.

 

But should we even give them the time of day? Half are on the take from Big Pharma, The other half are just plain stupid and don't know what they are talking about. They could do worse than join AN, and start reading my posts..

 

Look at the rubbish that is on the NIH www. Simply utter nonsense being put up as facts.. 

As opposed to listening tor your internet nonsense? Yes!

[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

As opposed to listening tor your internet nonsense? Yes!

You only get the truth from me Sir.

 

Don't take my musings as being 100% correct. Take your biased hat off. Then, I suggest you do your own research. You will only come to one conclusion. You have been well and truly had.

[cdemundo]

Not gonna read.

Waiting for the movie.

[Denim]

Are the figures in for the Black Death or Bubonic Plague in yet. These have been brushed under the carpet for centuries.  Time the truth was laid bare.

 

Make a change from all this covid fixation. 

[cjinchiangrai]

16 minutes ago, Denim said:

Are the figures in for the Black Death or Bubonic Plague in yet. These have been brushed under the carpet for centuries.  Time the truth was laid bare.

 

Make a change from all this covid fixation. 

Yep, still no vaccine available, pesky bacteria.

[Samh]

On 2/8/2025 at 2:55 PM, Red Phoenix said:

 

I don't deny that the Scamdemic did result in millions of deaths. 

But I vehemently oppose the narrative to whitewash the response by the lame excuse that 'it would have been worse' if we - Public Health and other authorities - had not:

- limited travel and meetings;

- imposed masks;

- imposed asocial distancing;

- closed small businesses;

- imposed the ridiculous PCR-testing;

- etc. etc.

The deadliest measure being the roll-out of the experimental Covid-19 gen-therapies, that have proven beyond refute now that they were neither safe nor effective, and actually not necessary. 

Well if the Chinese has taken it seriously from the start, locked down BEFORE the Chinese new year not allowing infected people to spread it all around China and the World it would have been a whole lot less serious.

[Samh]

On 2/8/2025 at 9:32 PM, cjinchiangrai said:

Yep, still no vaccine available, pesky bacteria.

Can you develope a vaccine for a bacteria? Like why no vaccination for maleria which has been the World's biggest killer, after old age. May be even before old age.

[Samh]

On 2/8/2025 at 9:14 PM, Denim said:

Are the figures in for the Black Death or Bubonic Plague in yet. These have been brushed under the carpet for centuries.  Time the truth was laid bare.

 

Make a change from all this covid fixation. 

Maleria is the biggest killer.

[Samh]

On 2/8/2025 at 8:33 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

I have relatives, friends and ex-associates entrenched in the NHS, and in the general UK Medical cycle. They certainly painted/paint a different picture to your post.

 

Lots of PCR testing == lots of covid cases. No PCR testing == no cases. And the effectiveness of the PCR test was a fraud in any case.

 

If I could be a tad intrusive Sir. What were the symptoms your son experienced?

Like flu but ten times worse. He got it from his gf who was even worse. The evidense is out there . You just carry on ignoring it. Just ask the care homes and the undertakers.

[KhunLA]

12 minutes ago, Samh said:

Maleria is the biggest killer.

More die from the simple lack of clean water, (diarrhea disease).  One of top killers of children under 5 yrs old.    That's simply embarrassing and, avoidable.

 

Malaria high, but far from biggest killer ...

 

 

Lack of clean drinking water & sanitation ...

 

 

Hopefully the numbers have improved, but the children suffer, probably from the immune system not up to par.

 

[cjinchiangrai]

7 minutes ago, Samh said:

Can you develope a vaccine for a bacteria? Like why no vaccination for maleria which has been the World's biggest killer, after old age. May be even before old age.

Not, usually, that is why it was a stupid question. Bubonic Plague is bacterial and treated with the other scientifically developed life saver, antibiotics. Just like TB and many other killer infections. 

[cjinchiangrai]

15 minutes ago, Samh said:

Can you develope a vaccine for a bacteria? Like why no vaccination for maleria which has been the World's biggest killer, after old age. May be even before old age.

Malaria is a parasite and is what chloro-quinones are actually used for. You really do not know much about the diseases you keep lying about, do you?

[Stiddle Mump]

37 minutes ago, Samh said:

Like flu but ten times worse. He got it from his gf who was even worse. The evidense is out there . You just carry on ignoring it. Just ask the care homes and the undertakers.

Hard to know what the specific symptoms were; "Like flu but ten times worse."

 

The usual symptoms are; fever, headache, coughing, depleted energy. Can also have sore throat, runny nose and belly problems. Mucus abounds too.

 

This is not a disease as such. For sure the symptoms make you feel terrible. But they are essential for the body to return to good health. The symptoms should not be suppressed, but helped. 

 

The following is for research only. Of course if one is ill; go see a medical practioner.

 

One such help is to wear a plastic bin-liner** (an unused one) under a T-shirt/sweat-shirt, and go for a jog/run. This will encourage the body to sweat the toxins out and will speed up recovery. Drink lots of clean water (not from the tap) and eat nothing for a couple of days. After the run go to bed and rest. 

 

** Cutting holes in it for the head and arms. Only do this early on; before the bed-rest stage.

[Stiddle Mump]

40 minutes ago, Samh said:

Can you develope a vaccine for a bacteria? Like why no vaccination for maleria which has been the World's biggest killer, after old age. May be even before old age.

Bacteria are there to help us. They help break down dead and dying tissue.

 

Malaria is not what we are led to believe it is.

[Samh]

22 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Malaria is a parasite and is what chloro-quinones are actually used for. You really do not know much about the diseases you keep lying about, do you?

My comment was further to the response to the person who was asking why there was no vaccination for the bacteria that caused the plague. Of couse I know you can't have a vaccine for a bacteria or a parasite. That was the point, the biggest killer of humanity through out history can't be vaccinated against. Covid can be vaccianted against though. I seem to know far more than you know.

 

[Samh]

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Bacteria are there to help us. They help break down dead and dying tissue.

 

Malaria is not what we are led to believe it is.

oh God now the anti maleria conspiracies.

[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, Samh said:

My comment was further to the response to the person who was asking why there was no vaccination for the bacteria that caused the plague. Of couse I know you can't have a vaccine for a bacteria or a parasite. That was the point, the biggest killer of humanity through out history can't be vaccinated against. Covid can be vaccianted against though. I seem to know far more than you know.

 

"Covid can be vaccianted against though." 

 

Oh no, it can't. Have you not been reading my earlier posts?

[Samh]

15 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Hard to know what the specific symptoms were; "Like flu but ten times worse."

 

The usual symptoms are; fever, headache, coughing, depleted energy. Can also have sore throat, runny nose and belly problems. Mucus abounds too.

 

This is not a disease as such. For sure the symptoms make you feel terrible. But they are essential for the body to return to good health. The symptoms should not be suppressed, but helped. 

 

The following is for research only. Of course if one is ill; go see a medical practioner.

 

One such help is to wear a plastic bin-liner** (an unused one) under a T-shirt/sweat-shirt, and go for a jog/run. This will encourage the body to sweat the toxins out and will speed up recovery. Drink lots of clean water (not from the tap) and eat nothing for a couple of days. After the run go to bed and rest. 

 

** Cutting holes in it for the head and arms. Only do this in the early stages, before bed-rest.

You are laying on the bed feeling that you are at  deaths door and the advice is to go for a jog wearing a plastic bin bag. They really have let the lunatics  out of the asylum.

[Kinnock]

A statistical quirk in a non peer reviewed paper that panders to the fears of the anti vaccination brigade.

 

The two groups are not comparable .... in general the group of people who get vaccinated will have a higher proportion of people with reasons to do so .... poor health, overweight, high risk group etc .... the same people who have a higher mortality rate.  Also, vaccination is targeted by health professionals on higher risk groups.

 

There's so many papers published every day that it's possible to find one that reinforces a particular belief.  Flat earth, check .... MMR causes autism, check, All Thai girls are hookers, check.

[Stiddle Mump]

4 minutes ago, Samh said:

You are laying on the bed feeling that you are at  deaths door and the advice is to go for a jog wearing a plastic bin bag. They really have let the lunatics  out of the asylum.

In the early stages Sir. Should encourage the symptoms to accelerate.

[Kinnock]

55 minutes ago, Samh said:

Can you develope a vaccine for a bacteria? Like why no vaccination for maleria which has been the World's biggest killer, after old age. May be even before old age.

Yes .... malaria is one of the biggest killers of children, with number 1 being be a wide catch-all category of 'diarrhoea', so malaria is probably the real number 1 .... but it has such a complex lifecycle it's been challenging to develop an effective vaccine - although there's some promising ones on trial now.