5 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Facts only, that are contained in the OP. The evidence that you have again ignored. More proof of your dishonest debating. 

I pointed out a flawed fact from the OP.

 

’The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not Hamas’.

I don’t think the source is trustworthy, it’s certainly biased.

 

8 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Facts only, that are contained in the OP. The evidence that you have again ignored. More proof of your dishonest debating. 

Wind in your baseless libels and we might get to have an honest discussion.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I pointed out a flawed fact from the OP.

 

’The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not Hamas’.

I don’t think the source is trustworthy, it’s certainly biased.

 

 

    Who says that and where ?

Where is that stated ?

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Who says that and where ?

Where is that stated ?

Refer the OP, the same OP you mentioned.

If US authorities can find that her actions crossed the line into providing actual material support for terrorist activities, then she could be criminally prosecuted and deported.

 

If she is a formal member of Hamas, then she would be an inadmissible alien and should be deported. I note that the OP lacks any direct allegation that she is a formal member of Hamas.

 

US law regarding support of terrorist organizations seems to be fairly prescriptive and is limited to material support, not speech. Here's a link that provides some basic info: https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/

 

Merely expressing support of Palestinian causes, however unpopular they may be, is likely to be considered protected speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Refer the OP, the same OP you mentioned.

 

   Is it actually written in the O.P ?

I've read the O.P three times now and I cannot locate that sentence .

Could you quote the whole paragraph (so that I can locate that sentence) ?

30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I pointed out a flawed fact from the OP.

 

’The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not Hamas’.

I don’t think the source is trustworthy, it’s certainly biased.

 

of course it is Hamas, can you provide a link to say it is not? That is just one fact out of dozens of pieces of evidence that is published there in the vid, but I see you are still defending  the indefensible by a lame attempt to shoot the messenger.

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

You of course are the perfect example of how people should never be.

 

Full of bile and hatred.

 

Not sure what bile is, the liver? But some things SHOULD be hated rather than tolerated, this includess child abusers, murderers, terrorism and Islam, which incorporates all three.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Which pro Israeli lobbyists are those ?

I do hope that you aren't just once again holding Israel responsible for everything .

   The report was published by a USA magazine and nothing to do with Israel 

Chomper Higgot is probably referring to the source

 

 

10 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

of course it is Hamas, can you provide a link to say it is not? That is just one fact out of dozens of pieces of evidence that is published there in the vid, but I see you are still defending  the indefensible by a lame attempt to shoot the messenger.

That’s not how it works.

 

There is no proof of something that isn’t a thing.

 

A fact those fond of pejorative innuendo make frequent use of.

 

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s not how it works.

 

There is no proof of something that isn’t a thing.

 

A fact those fond of pejorative innuendo make frequent use of.

 

Thats exactly how it works you can stop lying again. You made a claim it is not Hamas, yet the evidence in the OP states it is. So prove it.

 

Why are you still ignoring all the other evidence?

Is it reasonable to think that the State Department, CIA and FBI were unaware of who her father is or what her activities in Gaza were when she applied for her student visa? 

 

What reason is there to think that she hasn't already been investigated?

 

If CAMERA has concrete evidence that she's a formal member of Hamas or has provided material support to Hamas, why hasn't CAMERA already supplied this information to US law enforcement?

2 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Is it reasonable to think that the State Department, CIA and FBI were unaware of who her father is or what her activities in Gaza were when she applied for her student visa? 

 

What reason is there to think that she hasn't already been investigated?

 

If CAMERA has concrete evidence that she's a formal member of Hamas or has provided material support to Hamas, why hasn't CAMERA already supplied this information to US law enforcement?

Why is it reasonable to think that? Trumps executive order was only made a little while ago. Why has she and the university been busy deleting her social and student posts that referred to her hate speech and ties to Hamas?

37 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Is it actually written in the O.P ?

I've read the O.P three times now and I cannot locate that sentence .

Could you quote the whole paragraph (so that I can locate that sentence) ?

Did you miss this?:

 

 

20 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Thats exactly how it works you can stop lying again. You made a claim it is not Hamas, yet the evidence in the OP states it is. So prove it.

 

Why are you still ignoring all the other evidence?

You seem not yo know the difference between a claim and evidence.

 

The ministry of foreign affairs is a branch of Government it is not Hamas.

 

It is for those who claim the MoFA is Hamas to prove their claim.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You seem not yo know the difference between a claim and evidence.

 

The ministry of foreign affairs is a branch of Government it is not Hamas.

 

It is for those who claim the MoFA is Hamas to prove their claim.

The Goverment in Gaza is Hamas, since 2007…..

 

Guess you’ll not be able to find a link to your claim, so you can stop making things up now

A post with false claims has been removed @Chomper Higgot. As stated in the OP. Hamas still officially governs Gaza and as such all departments of government are under Hamas and its political wing control.

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And her crime is?

Being related to a murdering,raping,torturing psychopath.

54 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Not sure what bile is, the liver? But some things SHOULD be hated rather than tolerated, this includess child abusers, murderers, terrorism and Islam, which incorporates all three.

Why not do a simple internet search of the word "bile".

 

I will give you a clue, I did not mean the word in its medical term.

 

As for the rest of your post, you just proved my point.

 

 

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Why is it reasonable to think that? Trumps executive order was only made a little while ago. Why has she and the university been busy deleting her social and student posts that referred to her hate speech and ties to Hamas?

 

I would find it difficult to believe that the State Department would not be aware of her father's role as an advisor to Hamas or of her activities. She seems to have had a fairly high profile while in the US as well.

 

I can understand why people and organizations with unpopular views may want to remove content from social media and other websites given the views and actions of the current administration.

 

We will see how much of Trump's executive order of January 20, 2025 stands up to judicial review. I'm sure there will be tests of it shortly.

3 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

I would find it difficult to believe that the State Department would not be aware of her father's role as an advisor to Hamas or of her activities. She seems to have had a fairly high profile while in the US as well.

 

I can understand why people and organizations with unpopular views may want to remove content from social media and other websites given the views and actions of the current administration.

 

We will see how much of Trump's executive order of January 20, 2025 stands up to judicial review. I'm sure there will be tests of it shortly.

Its not about what you believe though, it is about the facts that have been revealed so far. You are also making an assumption that he was just an advisor.

 

"Mapheze’s father Ahmed Yousef served in that Haniyeh-led organization, in a role variably described as “an adviser to Hamas’s Foreign Ministry,” a “senior adviser to the Hamas Foreign Ministry,” “foreign ministry director-general in Gaza’s Hamas government,” or “top political advisor to Haniyeh in the Hamas foreign ministry.”

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not about what you believe though, it is about the facts that have been revealed so far.

 

What facts have been revealed that state that she hasn't already been investigated?

2 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

What facts have been revealed that state that she hasn't already been investigated?

Its not for me to disprove your beliefs......

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’re probably right, the new McCarthyism is upon us.

Pro-Israel lobbyists organizations doing to gum-shoeing.

McCarthy was demonizing US citizens. 

Trump is expelling foreign terrorists and their foreign sympathizers.

As far as I know no country is required to allow foreigners to work or study in their countries.

 

If I were a world leader, I wouldn't be allowing foreign religious extremists (of any flavour) into my country. Mentally ill foreigners NOT WELCOME!

So much for Trump's and the US anti terrorist policy, they can't tell who is who and are actually educating the scum.

 

Musk should sack the entire immigration department for dereliction of duty and then everyone will be free to enter, 🤣🤣🤣

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

McCarthy was demonizing US citizens. 

Trump is expelling foreign terrorists and their foreign sympathizers.

As far as I know no country is required to allow foreigners to work or study in their countries.

 

If I were a world leader, I wouldn't be allowing foreign religious extremists (of any flavour) into my country. Mentally ill foreigners NOT WELCOME!

I wasn’t referring to what Trump has convinced you he’s doong.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I wasn’t referring to what Trump has convinced you he’s doong.

It's what every country should be doing.

Stop importing other countries mentally ill.

An interesting article on Trump's executive order:

 

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trumps-executive-order-foreign-terrorists-implications-rights-non

38 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not about what you believe though, it is about the facts that have been revealed so far. You are also making an assumption that he was just an advisor.

 

"Mapheze’s father Ahmed Yousef served in that Haniyeh-led organization, in a role variably described as “an adviser to Hamas’s Foreign Ministry,” a “senior adviser to the Hamas Foreign Ministry,” “foreign ministry director-general in Gaza’s Hamas government,” or “top political advisor to Haniyeh in the Hamas foreign ministry.”

 

Her father is in the US on a student visa?

2 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

Her father is in the US on a student visa?

Silly question, stop trolling. Its a quote from the article