Bill to ban mRNA vaccines passes out of House committee

[Hamus Yaigh]

15 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Great News > 

One might need to be severely retarded or a luddite to suggest this is Great News when it is insane. 

mRNA vaccines have shown promise in protecting against a variety of diseases, including:

    COVID-19: mRNA vaccines have been developed and approved for emergency use to protect against COVID-19.
    Influenza: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against seasonal and pandemic influenza.
    Rabies: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against rabies.
    Zika Virus: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against Zika virus.
    Cancer: mRNA vaccines are being explored as a potential tool for cancer treatment, by stimulating the immune system to attack cancer cells.

[Stiddle Mump]

3 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

One might need to be severely retarded or a luddite to suggest this is Great News when it is insane. 

mRNA vaccines have shown promise in protecting against a variety of diseases, including:

    COVID-19: mRNA vaccines have been developed and approved for emergency use to protect against COVID-19.
    Influenza: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against seasonal and pandemic influenza.
    Rabies: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against rabies.
    Zika Virus: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against Zika virus.
    Cancer: mRNA vaccines are being explored as a potential tool for cancer treatment, by stimulating the immune system to attack cancer cells.

Can't agree with any of this post Sir. Especially:

 

COVID-19: mRNA vaccines have been developed and approved for emergency use to protect against COVID-19.
    Influenza: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against seasonal and pandemic influenza.
    Rabies: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against rabies.
    Zika Virus: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against Zika virus.
    Cancer: mRNA vaccines are being explored as a potential tool for cancer treatment, by stimulating the immune system to attack cancer cells.

 

The last one takes the biscuit. Cancer is one of the biggest misunderstood concepts of our time. It is the way to body protects itself, when, under difficult circumstances, it cannot eliminate toxins as they arrive. There are reasons why this is the case. Too complex to be expanded for this thread.

 

The second one; influenza!! This is simply utter rubbish.

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

One might need to be severely retarded or a luddite to suggest this is Great News when it is insane. 

mRNA vaccines have shown promise in protecting against a variety of diseases, including:

    COVID-19: mRNA vaccines have been developed and approved for emergency use to protect against COVID-19.
    Influenza: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against seasonal and pandemic influenza.
    Rabies: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against rabies.
    Zika Virus: mRNA vaccines are being developed to protect against Zika virus.
    Cancer: mRNA vaccines are being explored as a potential tool for cancer treatment, by stimulating the immune system to attack cancer cells.

Current flu vaccines are effective. Current rabies vaccines are effective. ZIKV is not common and usually results in mild symptoms so would you suggest a global immunisation program of mRNA injections. As for cancer other avenues are being explored. mRNA is big, big business for big pharma.

[connda]

12 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

COVID vaccination saved more than 5,000 US lives in 7 months in 2023-24, CDC estimates

The CDC as was the Fauci NIH was/is a part of the propaganda arm of the Pharmaceutical industry. Hopefully RFK Jr and DOGE will get around to them too.  No member of the CDC, or any regulatory body should come from the companies the regulate nor every be allowed to work for those they have regulated.  The potential for corruption is too high as we experienced between 2020 and Jan 20th 2025.  It's time to investigate all of the participants who pushed the novel and marginally tested mRNA Covid shots which are neither safe or effective.  But they did make Big Pharma a whole lot of money.

Fyi - If you want to take the Covid shots, by all means, please take them.  It's your body and your choice.  If you want you children to take them, up to you.  But the government needs to get out of the business of the forced vaccination of children (and adults) with the exception of proven sterilizing vaccines with a proven high degree of safety and a very low rate of side affects.  And I also hope that RFK Jr. mandates a review of all childhood vaccines with independent reviews and assessments of safety and efficacy including assessing the potential of these vaccines in creating the conditions for autism which has exploded.  Anddddd - the liability indemnity for Big Pharma's shots needs to be overturned.  Vaccine damaged individuals need to be able to recover monetary damages in court. 

It's a new day, at least for the next four years, and it's just begun.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

It also would have banned donations from people diagnosed with long COVID, an interesting choice given that I am pretty sure the anti-vax people do not believe that long COVID is a thing. ...

Given that covid vaccines don't stop people getting covid, they can still get long covid even if boosted every 5 minutes.

 

Best thing I ever did was refusing to use the faux vaccine, and waiting till the properly made version was available. I also refused to get any boosters, and only had the initial 2 doses as the damn government made it too difficult without. Eventually the people revolted against the vaccine mandate and it suddenly became optional, though they are still trying to get the sheeple to get boosters ( which don't stop one getting covid ).

[bubblegum]

13 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I prefer 'truth'.

Then try and use it.

[connda]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Current flu vaccines are effective.

No they are not "effective." 

Here's the source of the inefficacy of flu shot from the CDC.  Marginally effective at best.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu-vaccines-work/php/effectiveness-studies/index.html

Rabies will kill you if you get it, so I personally work with a lot of animals including strays and temple dogs.  Nips happen, so I do take prophylaxis rabies shots. I assume they are effective because the downside is 100% sure death otherwise.

And to this day I love the trope that "Covid Cured The Flu."  See 2020-2021 stats.

[Stiddle Mump]

8 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Then try and use it.

Another poster wasted on here. Go to the joke section with your one-line humor.

[connda]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given that covid vaccines don't stop people getting covid, they can still get long covid even if boosted every 5 minutes.

 

Best thing I ever did was refusing to use the faux vaccine, and waiting till the properly made version was available. I also refused to get any boosters, and only had the initial 2 doses as the damn government made it too difficult without. Eventually the people revolted against the vaccine mandate and it suddenly became optional, though they are still trying to get the sheeple to get boosters ( which don't stop one getting covid ).

Covid was a mild flu.  For me, a 2 day fever and a couple of day feeling like c*ap.
But I'm glad I got is as I now have natural immunity.  I don't even worry about getting it again. 

I find it interesting that the esteemed Fauci who claims to have taken all the shots and boosters has come down with Covid 3 times now.  Interesting, 'eh?

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, connda said:

Covid was a mild flu.  For me, a 2 day fever and a couple of day feeling like c*ap.
But I'm glad I got is as I now have natural immunity.  I don't even worry about getting it again. 

I find it interesting that the esteemed Fauci who claims to have taken all the shots and boosters has come down with Covid 3 times now.  Interesting, 'eh?

I also had a 2 day "feeling rotten" and over it.

[Negita43]

13 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

14 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

The word "fact" is a banned four letter word to the Tin Foil Hatted brigade!

I prefer 'truth'.

Two of the most mis-used words in the English language.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I also had a 2 day "feeling rotten" and over it.

I've had it a couple of times. Not pleasant but over pretty quick. A few days. I had the flu a long time ago. Much, much worse. When I say a couple of times who knows. I've had the occasional "cold", sore throat, aching body on different occasions. Maybe covid. If it was it was just another boost to my immune system. Before this whole thing everybody got these things and just got on with it. 

[connda]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I also had a 2 day "feeling rotten" and over it.

Join the club. And I'm glad I got it, if nothing else that to prove to the "COVID is gonna kill your elderly ass" crowd that a viral infection with a 99.7% survival rate (and about 100% if you are healthy and have no comorbidities) isn't a death sentence.  Rabies is a death sentence.  Covid is a couple of days "feeling rotten." Plus the benefit of natural immunity and memory B and T cells for this lab-grown experiment released into the wild.

[bubblegum]

28 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Another poster wasted on here. Go to the joke section with your one-line humor.

Hard isn't it. Easier to just attack another poster. Typical.

[Nid_Noi]

15 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Another totally misleading article from the reliable king of COVID nonsense posts here.

 

The "USA" reference and "House committee" references in the OP headline would lead most readers to assume the cited news report is about the U.S. House of Representatives and federal legislation. It IS NOT!

 

The cited article is from a small, obscure newspaper in the U.S. state of Montana, based in that great urban metropolis of  Kalispell, Montana, pop. about 25,000, and pertains to legislation pending there in Montana state's House of Representatives -- none of which is made clear in the OP post.

 

https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1752986

 

MT HB371

Ban mRNA vaccinations in Montana for humans

"Introduced Session
 

2025 Regular Session

Bill Summary

AN ACT ENTITLED: “AN ACT PROHIBITING THE ADMINISTRATION OF GENE-BASED VACCINES FOR INFECTIOUS DISEASES INTO HUMANS IN THE STATE OF MONTANA; PROVIDING A DEFINITION; AND PROVIDING A PENALTY.

 

Last Action

(H) Committee Report--Bill Passed as Amended (H) Judiciary (on 02/12/2025)"

 

Of course, nowhere in the OP post, nor in the newspaper article it links to, do either of them say that the legislation is only STATE legislation and would only apply, if passed, to Montana...

 

But hey, when you're on a nonsense anti-vax crusade, the actual facts and reality of things take a distant back seat.
 

And, the state rep. who sponsored the bill in question certainly has a good background to be legislating on medical and public health issues:

 

"Greg Kmetz was born in Cheyenne, Wyoming, and lives in Miles City, Montana. Kmetz earned a bachelor's degree in industrial education from the University of Wyoming. His career experience includes owning his own welding and machine shop and working as a welding instructor. [emphasis added]

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Greg_Kmetz

 

https://www.nphic.org/news/featured-topics/1380-which-u-s-states-are-banning-vaccine-mandates

 

Instead of being so negative about the ban introduced to the state legislative assembly, just take a look at all the states taking the same approach towards the mRNA gene therapies. North Carolina is taking the same path as Montana and other have cancelled all vaccine mandates and even voted in favour of the freedom of choice meaning it will be not be possible for any employer to mandate any therapy.

North Dakota will follow as well as Arizona and a dozen more.

 

As we have seen in recent rulings (not from executive orders) reintegration with back pay was the new norm.

Also no employer may have access to employees’ vaccination status or medical records.

Is it not what the leftists fought for: My body my choice?

 

New legislations are popping up for parental consent for any vaccination required by schools. With RFK jr. we may see new legislation for child protection against abusive vaccination.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/state-lawmakers-see-new-opportunities-to-pass-vaccine-exemptions-after-trumps-return

 

 

[Woke to Sounds]

19 minutes ago, connda said:

a viral infection with a 99.7% survival rate (and about 100% if you are healthy and have no comorbidities) isn't a death sentence.

I find it interesting this fact was never ever mentioned let alone promoted in the MSM.

 

Fauch said the vaxxxxine was safe and effective and stemmed transmission.

 

My mate got the mRNA shot and now he jokes there are nanobots cycling thru his bloodstream and reprogramming his DNA.

 

Far fetched?

 

Who knows?

[Nid_Noi]

2 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds said:

I find it interesting this fact was never ever mentioned let alone promoted in the MSM.

 

Fauch said the vaxxxxine was safe and effective and stemmed infection.

 

My mate got the mRNA shot and now he says there are nanobots cycling thru his bloodstream and reprogramming his DNA.

 

Far fetched?

 

Who knows?

Who would have expected to see the world population used as guinea pigs in the 21st century, flushing down the toilets all the basic human rights people have been fighting for.

In fact sheeple will remain sheeple all their lives, this is the perfect clientele for all socialistic programs, no questions asked, just roll-up your sleeves.

[Woke to Sounds]

20 minutes ago, connda said:

a viral infection with a 99.7% survival rate (and about 100% if you are healthy and have no comorbidities)

How would have things turned out differently if the MSM promoted these facts instead of the fear?

 

But that was not the agenda of the overlords.

[Hamus Yaigh]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Current flu vaccines are effective. Current rabies vaccines are effective. ZIKV is not common and usually results in mild symptoms so would you suggest a global immunisation program of mRNA injections. As for cancer other avenues are being explored. mRNA is big, big business for big pharma.

These concerns are not entirely misguided: Existing vaccines: It's true that current rabies vaccines are effective, but mRNA vaccines offer potential advantages, such as rapid development and deployment.
 

However, it's also important to consider:

    Scientific evidence: mRNA vaccines have shown promising results in clinical trials, demonstrating their safety and efficacy.
    Global health needs: mRNA vaccines could provide a rapid response to emerging threats, like pandemics, and address unmet medical needs in resource-poor settings.
    Innovation and advancement: mRNA vaccines represent a new technology with potential applications beyond current vaccines, including cancer treatment and rare genetic disorders.

 

While your comment are valid, they should be balanced against the scientific evidence, global health needs, and potential benefits of mRNA vaccines.

[Red Phoenix]

6 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

...

However, it's also important to consider:

    Scientific evidence: mRNA vaccines have shown promising results in clinical trials, demonstrating their safety and efficacy.

...

You might be interested in the thread I just posted on this subforum:

https://aseannow.com/topic/1351931-prof-ian-brightrope-mrna-vaccines-hailed-as-the-future/

where Prof Ian Brightrope throws some ice-cold water on the mRNA vaccine promise....

[dinsdale]

15 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Scientific evidence: mRNA vaccines have shown promising results in clinical trials, demonstrating their safety and efficacy.
    Global health needs: mRNA vaccines could provide a rapid response to emerging threats, like pandemics, and address unmet medical needs in resource-poor settings.
    Innovation and advancement: mRNA vaccines represent a new technology with potential applications beyond current vaccines, including cancer treatment and rare genetic disorders.

This sounds like it's straight out of a big pharma/CDC brochure indeed I suspect a cut and paste job. BTW I'm fairly sure those who suffered vaccine injury would question the safety aspect.

[Stiddle Mump]

14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

COVID-19 vaccination averted more than 5,000 US in-hospital deaths, 13,000 intensive care unit (ICU) admissions, and 68,000 hospitalizations in 7 months in 2023-2024, researchers from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated late last week in Vaccine, although with considerable uncertainty.

I am a little saddened, although not surprised,  when the CDC - an authority that should be looking out for the populas - reels out such utter bilge. Same with the NIH; except they are worse. Only have to look at the nonsense on their www. And the FDA; constantly sniffing Big Pharma's backside for that future post.

 

The whole shebang needs to be swept way. They are nothing but anti-health IMO. If Kennedy jr the guy? I'll not be holding my breath. I much prefer Dr Kaufman.

 

We are nature. Nature is us.

[Stiddle Mump]

14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

COVID-19 vaccination averted more than 5,000 US in-hospital deaths, 13,000 intensive care unit (ICU) admissions, and 68,000 hospitalizations in 7 months in 2023-2024, researchers from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated late last week in Vaccine, although with considerable uncertainty.

I am a little saddened, although not surprised,  when the CDC - an authority that should be looking out for the populas - reels out such utter bilge. Same with the NIH; except they are worse. Only have to look at the nonsense on their www. And the FDA; constantly sniffing Big Pharma's backside for that future post.

 

The whole shebang needs to be swept way. They are nothing but anti-health IMO. Is Kennedy jr the guy? I'll not be holding my breath. I much prefer Dr Kaufman.

 

We are nature. Nature is us.

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On 2/15/2025 at 8:52 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

I prefer 'truth'.

Actually what you prefer is close to "truth". At least, etymologically. What you actually prefer is "truthiness".

 

Truthiness is the belief or assertion that a particular statement is true based on the intuition or perceptions of some individual or individuals, without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.^[1][2] Truthiness can range from ignorant assertions of falsehoods to deliberate duplicity or propaganda intended to sway opinions.^[3][4]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness}

[Stiddle Mump]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Actually what you prefer is close to "truth". At least, etymologically. What you actually prefer is "truthiness".

 

Truthiness is the belief or assertion that a particular statement is true based on the intuition or perceptions of some individual or individuals, without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.^[1][2] Truthiness can range from ignorant assertions of falsehoods to deliberate duplicity or propaganda intended to sway opinions.^[3][4]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness}

Thanks for that Sir.

 

I prefer;. ''Is it true or not!'' Simple.

[bkknirvana]

MRNA is a bio-weapon. Nothing more, nothing less.

[WorriedNoodle]

On 2/16/2025 at 11:13 AM, dinsdale said:

BTW I'm fairly sure those who suffered vaccine injury would question the safety aspect.

Some people on this forum need vaccinating against the stupid virus. Millions of people have died thro lack of access to modern day vaccines and mRNA are cutting edge technology. It's not difficult to see the harm ignorance to vaccines causes when you have family members who have succumbed.

[NoDisplayName]

On 2/15/2025 at 6:10 PM, Red Phoenix said:

A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines

 

No problem, you still have old-fashion vaccine technology to choose from.  You can Chinese Sinopharm or Russian Sputnik.

 

Safe and effective.

[nomad22]

On 2/15/2025 at 6:10 PM, Red Phoenix said:

Great News > A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines, including for Covid-19, is on its way to the House floor

 

 

This is a State bill in the state of montana where almost nobody lives. 

 

You intentionally mislead people and make it sound like this is a bill in the US house of representatives.

 

Do you never get tired of demostrating that you are an obvious liar?

 

[dinsdale]

3 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Some people on this forum need vaccinating against the stupid virus. Millions of people have died thro lack of access to modern day vaccines and mRNA are cutting edge technology. It's not difficult to see the harm ignorance to vaccines causes when you have family members who have succumbed.

I have never been anti vax. Just anti mRNA. As for modern day vaccines exactly what do you mean by this? When do you think the measles, chicken pox, diphtheria, German measles etc. vaccines were developed? They are not "cutting edge technology" are they. Do they work? Should they be replaced with mRNA vaccines just to increase profits for big pharma. Have you thought through what you posted?