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Zelinsky: The End Is Near

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On 2/22/2025 at 9:04 PM, Harrisfan said:

US army is much stronger. US lost $200bn for nothing.

Name a War the US won on its own!

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  • Ukraine will fight on with European backing against the murderous Putin who has killed so many .Trump and his fellow appeasers should be eternally grateful to Zelensky because Ukraine has crippled the

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    I give him 48 hours. Lucky he squirreled away so much and has villas overseas to live his life in luxury, as a million Ukrainian mothers mourn the senseless death of their kids. It was for nowt.

  • Fascinating what festers in the fevered imaginations of right wing brain pans. Its like you believe the US gave Zelensky a big bag a cash or something.   Military aid is basically credits to

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Well, I guess you all were wrong about the initial story. Trumps approach with UK demanding the 500 Billion in Minerals seems to have gotten Zelenski to agree to come talk to Trump and make a deal with their countries minerals. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c337461n3xlo

 

 

Albeit, he did not yet agree to reimbursement of the 500 billion the US already gave. But i am certain with Trumps negotiating skills that this will also be something Zelenski agrees to. 

On 2/22/2025 at 3:32 PM, stevenl said:

In the geo political area, US and Europe are, or maybe were, in general aligned. Russia and China are on the other side. So yes, Russia was an opponent and is much weaker now than 3 years ago.

 

Apparently Russia was always much weaker than Nato.  It has just been exposed by their failures in Ukraine.  Pretty clear now in a non-nuclear war between Nato (with US) and Russia it is very one sided. 

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On 2/22/2025 at 3:21 PM, Harrisfan said:

The cold war ended 40 years ago

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

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3 minutes ago, Paul52 said:

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

Biden had a plan? First time ever.

 

Not sure about it though. Use Ukranian blood to gum up the wheels of the Russian military....  Seems rather callous, even for a Democrat.

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3 minutes ago, Paul52 said:

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

Rubbish. Biden is senile and he had no plan. Lefties online making up stories 3 years later. What a joke. Many died and you don't care. Its all a plan :cheesy:

Corruption rating.  Ukraine  104 out of 180 countries.  Their military with the most corruption.  

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3 hours ago, Kiwiken said:

Name a War the US won on its own!

We won the war on Spending and increasing our National Debt to the critical point all by ourselves.

 

For our next party trick we will let Healthcare become so expensive that only the Elite and Rich can afford it.

 

Then the loan for a 4 year degree at a good college will take 20 years to repay.

 

Then the US will be like Thailand were everyone is underwater with to much Debt.  

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20 hours ago, mogandave said:

What does gave him “right” mean? 

 

You said Trump is giving Putin everything Putin wants.

 

Does Putin want all of Ukraine or not? 

 

No.

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2 hours ago, Paul52 said:

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

The only threat Russia needs to stop NATO invading it is the nuclear arsenal. Does any European country even have a decent military anymore? I doubt it- run down by decades of budget cuts. The Brits will be OK if it's ever down to the cavalry though- they probably have more horses than the Russians.

Cold war without any actual wars against the west is just peachy IMO. Without the boogeyman there wouldn't be any need for those honour guards for visiting "dignitaries" to inspect on arrival, LOL ( I was in a few of them, a right pain in the butt they were too ).

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Rubbish. Biden is senile and he had no plan. Lefties online making up stories 3 years later. What a joke. Many died and you don't care. Its all a plan :cheesy:

The plan IMO was to make shareholders of weapons manufacturers very very rich. On that they exceeded expectations.

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The plan IMO was to make shareholders of weapons manufacturers very very rich. On that they exceeded expectations.

Yes SHLD paid 15% for 6 months plus a little dividend.  Not bad.  It use to be taboo to be a weapons manufacturer now everyone sees the money and wants a piece. Palantir, Anduril see the size of the checks the Military Budget is handing out and are tired of dinosaur companies getting paid.

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Well, well, the future will look back at history and find out, that Zelensky was nothing but yet another puppet. As long as you take an absolute nobody, put him into a presidential palace, let him outstay his (rigged) welcome, then you know that you're dealing with banana republics. 

Zelensky reminds me of Marcos, Lon Nol, the Shah of Persia who got massive help in unseating Mosaddegh, Vang Pao who fled his people and did not understand to the day he died, how he was puppet mastered. 

2 hours ago, Paul52 said:

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

exactly thanks clarified

 

When President Trump posted that President Zelensky is a dictator without elections, 

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Trump's Idiocy, at its worst.

Which country can afford the Political Blank Period(absense of the head of the state; decision maker) while facing ongoing mass invasion by land from the neighboring country?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Well, well, the future will look back at history and find out, that Zelensky was nothing but yet another puppet. As long as you take an absolute nobody, put him into a presidential palace, let him outstay his (rigged) welcome, then you know that you're dealing with banana republics. 

Zelensky reminds me of Marcos, Lon Nol, the Shah of Persia who got massive help in unseating Mosaddegh, Vang Pao who fled his people and did not understand to the day he died, how he was puppet mastered. 

Not forgetting Sadam who was the US's best bud as long as he was fighting the Iranians and a few unsavoury dictators in South America. They even preferred Pol Pot to the Vietnamese who saved the remaining Cambodians.

4 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

When President Trump posted that President Zelensky is a dictator without elections, 

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Trump's Idiocy, at its worst.

Which country can afford the Political Blank Period(absense of the head of the state; decision maker) while facing ongoing mass invasion by the neighboring country?

 

 

UM, despite some presidents that think they are military geniuses, the general command usually manage without a president for a few weeks.

 

BTW, are you not aware that Lloyd George was elected DURING WW1?

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

UM, despite some presidents that think they are military geniuses, the general command usually manage without a president for a few weeks.

 

BTW, are you not aware that Lloyd George was elected DURING WW1?

 

As long as I know of, UK didn't become the stage of land battle(unlike continental Europe).

That's the difference(between WW1 UK and today's Ukraine).

Occasionally being air raided is one thing.

But ongoing army battle on its soil  is another.

6 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

As long as I know of, UK didn't become the stage of land battle(unlike continental Europe).

That's the difference(between WW1 UK and today's Ukraine).

Occasionally being air raided is one thing.

But ongoing army battle on its soil  is another.

I wasn't aware that Kiev is on the front lines.

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America entered a long war in Vietnam because it feared the domino effect of Asia becoming Communist. Thailand was its red line. 

Now, the west sees that Russia wants to own its former East European colonies and America wants to appease Russia. Ukraine was the red line, now it's like a buffet of eat all you can. 

I worry that we are underestimating Russia.

On 2/22/2025 at 12:45 AM, steven100 said:

  spelling was not your greatest subject I see.   Did you fail English at school  ?

 

Don't make me laugh. The English-speaking world doesn’t know the first thing about proper spelling. If it did, there wouldn’t be a need for pronunciation keys in every English dictionary.

On 2/22/2025 at 12:45 AM, steven100 said:

  spelling was not your greatest subject I see.   Did you fail English at school  ?

 

Don't make me laugh. The English-speaking world doesn’t know the first thing about proper spelling. If it did, there wouldn’t be a need for pronunciation keys in every English dictionary.

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6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wasn't aware that Kiev is on the front lines.

 

Hi, it was one of the places struck by Rus force, on the very first day of Poo-tin's invasion(Feb.24, 2022).

Fierce battle took place in capital's Hostomel Airport(AKA Antonov airfield).

UA paratroopers and their tank unit successfully repelled enemy airborne attack.

So Rus intention to use it as the logistic hub failed.

While world's largest Ukrainian cargo plane was destroyed during the combat.

 

The Battle of Hostomel Airport: A Key Moment in Russia’s Defeat in Kyiv | CNAS

 

20 minutes ago, Purdey said:

America entered a long war in Vietnam because it feared the domino effect of Asia becoming Communist. Thailand was its red line. 

Now, the west sees that Russia wants to own its former East European colonies and America wants to appease Russia. Ukraine was the red line, now it's like a buffet of eat all you can. 

I worry that we are underestimating Russia.

 

While Poo-tin is overestimating own country.

Just like Adolph Hitler, toward the end of his 3rd Reich; not recognizing harsh reality.

His agencies weren't giving  him proper information about the state of their military; for the fear of possible purge, by doing so.

Nuke Bluff, his oldest trade, no longer works.

And if Rus ever uses any A-bombs, it simply means the end of own empire.

 

5 hours ago, thesetat said:

Well, I guess you all were wrong about the initial story. Trumps approach with UK demanding the 500 Billion in Minerals seems to have gotten Zelenski to agree to come talk to Trump and make a deal with their countries minerals. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c337461n3xlo

 

 

Albeit, he did not yet agree to reimbursement of the 500 billion the US already gave. But i am certain with Trumps negotiating skills that this will also be something Zelenski agrees to. 

The $500billion claimed by Trump has already been fact checked and disproven, and if you believe in anything that Trump says, try backing it up with verifiable facts, if you can.

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