Trump: EU was formed to 'screw' the United States

[bannork]

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

You take it for granted, but you'll never give up your citizenship. Very lucky it allows dual citizenship, generous pensions even if you don't live there (try getting that in Thailand, India, etc). Free education, free health care, subsidized university fees for their citizens in some of the best universities on the planet, clean air, safe compared to the rest of the world with low crime rates, good strong economy in relative terms. (*free as in subsidized from the tax payer), and a powerful passport to allow you to travel anywhere. 

 

Before you <deleted> on the UK or your western country (like the TikTokers love to do - straight from the Tate coursebook) you should remember it's that economy that allows you the freedoms to come and stay / holiday in Thailand. 

 

These young entitled idiots all over social media feel as if the state owes them everything, then they <deleted> on it. Go ask Thai's, Indians, etc how bad the state is in their countries. In India, if you have no money you can't get treated by a doctor, pretty much no country (except Thailand) will let you in without you being a rich person., etc etc 

Ii appreciate the benefits of UK residence, I was referring to the happiness factor. English people, and I'm one of them, like to moan ( blame the dreadful winter weather). In fact I think the weather has a lot to do with a level of happiness. In warm and tropical countries people can spend a lot of time outdoors, there's a happiness there imo, just being able to sit outside, enjoy nature, watch the world go by.

But in cold climes, folks, especially the old, are trapped indoors, often leading to isolation and loneliness 

[billd766]

43 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

So that's it? Unemployment is the sole criterion to judge a nation's economic health?

 

Thank you for labelling me, "embarrassing stupid"; I am reassured about my sanity. I would hate to be considered 'clever' by you.

 

Now just wait there quietly like a good chap. The nice men in white coats will be along to collect you shortly.

Perhaps the A side of this applies to him, though IMO the B side fits as well.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xRCbdFrSSc

 

[RayC]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

I would disagree.

 

The first step was to get out of the EU. The second step was to elect a government that would take advantage of that.

 

We did the former. The latter will happen 4 years from now.

 

We've been down this road many times before, Jonny. 'Brexit isn't the problem, it's the way in which it was implemented' is the mantra.

 

And my question(s) remains the same, What exactly should Brexit have looked like? How could it have been implemented differently? 

 

I'll save you the bother of mentioning the ECHR. Leaving the ECHR might be a bone to throw to the rabid dogs, but it's not going to make much difference to economic performance.

[RayC]

9 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Perhaps the A side of this applies to him, though IMO the B side fits as well.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xRCbdFrSSc

 

 

😂 Haven't heard that in years. Thanks for posting. One of my dear old Dad's favourites.

[hotsun]

Alot of lefty whining. I hope trump shafts the EU big time here

[Yellowtail]

I feel sorry for the people in the EU, it seems like it's dying a slow death. 

[CG1 Blue]

11 hours ago, JAG said:

https://images.app.goo.gl/WDUp5sdwf3W4AtF98

 

That picture is of slaughtered children, mortared at a crossroads whilst fleeing from the Russians.

 

"Got to take the rough with the smooth"

 

You are in a really dark place!

Surely stopping the war so that no more children are slaughtered like that is a good thing? 

Or is revenge more important? 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

 

😂 Haven't heard that in years. Thanks for posting. One of my dear old Dad's favourites.

I enjoy the music of the 1920s to the 1990s but after that I have a problem understanding the words and music.

[JAG]

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

Surely stopping the war so that no more children are slaughtered like that is a good thing? 

Or is revenge more important? 

Not a question of revenge.

 

If we give in to Putin's aggression the next crossroads to be mortared will be in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, or most probably in the Suwatki Corridor, the bit of Poland which separates Kaliningrad from Belloruss.

[josephbloggs]

8 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Nazis?

Don't think Elon Musk has had an effect yet.

[josephbloggs]

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

Alot of lefty whining. I hope trump shafts the EU big time here

 

The cult followers are so blind.

The US without the EU is nothing. And vice versa, but I think the EU could survive better without the US than the US could without Europe.

Hopefully we will find out soon when America retreats up its own backside and is cut off by its former EU partners. The world will laugh.

[spidermike007]

13 hours ago, JAG said:

The USA sat on the top of that tree because 1945 left it as the only major economic power. Europe was devastated, Russia and the UK worn out, and China was riven by civil war. By the 60s Europe and the UK were up and running again. China has emerged in this century. As @Patong2021 and @soalbundy have pointed out The US practice of short term profits and "vulture capitalism" (wonderful précis that!) has hindered investment to allow for effective competition, and combined with the failings of their educational system ensured that they will fall ever further behind. Their obsession with maintaining a massive military hasn't helped.

 

For sure, their economy is big enough to sustain itself within any barriers it may erect or has already erected, but it will continue to fall behind the rest of the world. It will trundle along in isolation, and isolation will increasingly make it irrelevant to anyone else; perhaps a bit like the Republic of Ireland was until it opened up and joined the EU. Ireland had the vice like grip of the Church, the USA is falling under the vice like grip of the oligarchs. I am unlikely to be around to seethe word in 30 years, but I bet the red hats will have faded!

The US could not exist without Mexico, Canada and China. End of story. The US consistently overestimates it's influence which is declining dramatically and will continue to decline over Trump's lack of leadership.