No, we didn't.

OK then tell us who did..

Claiming ignorance or just having a go?

None of the above. Just asking a question, as you seem to know who didn't, perhaps you know who did.

HIV, much like EBOLA, has been traced back to monkeys in Africa. How it mutated and spread to mankind is up for debate, but I'm sure you can figure out the options. Pictures not needed.

Cancer wasn't invented/created by anyone ofcourse, since it's just alterations in the DNA causing unwanted cellgrowths.

That things are constantly retconned into religios dogma as a sign of the sentinal or evil beings creations are ofcourse expected.

I know this is Bedlam but how do you guys jump in only a couple of posts from a discussion about the demise of fresh water dolphins in China to the conclusion that God does not exist and if he does then it is all his fault so that means by virtue of nonsense you make it Suegha's responsibility to be the whipping boy.

Amazing

CB

No, we didn't.

OK then tell us who did..

I heard it was the monkeys in Africa.

Certainly, scientific studies have come to this conclusion.

Would that then make seuga an evolutionist ?

How could this, by any weird twist of logic, make me an evolutionist?

You said that man started AIDS,

and many scientists say that AIDS started with monkeys,

So these views are compatible IF you believe in evolution theory.

But I m sure you had another meaning in mind. Perhaps you have mistaken spreading for creating.

^ Satan perhaps.

I know this was said tongue in cheek, however, as I have pointed out before, the word 'satan' just means adversary or opponent in the Bible. there is no mythical beast called satan, it's orthodox christianity that's responsible for that myth!

Also, for so many who don't believe in God to use him as an excuse for not believing is preposterous!

If we were to explain the AIDS virus from a Christianity stance, I thought Satan would have been the OBVIOUS choice.

Sorry to take this off topic! but the topic was dying out anyway.

Im interested in finding out what others think on these matters, we can agree to disagree, thats fine too.

Sorry to go back on topic. This is what the Yangtze River Dolphin used to look like.

http://www.earthocean.tv/series/baiji.html

I know this is Bedlam but how do you guys jump in only a couple of posts from a discussion about the demise of fresh water dolphins in China to the conclusion that God does not exist and if he does then it is all his fault so that means by virtue of nonsense you make it Suegha's responsibility to be the whipping boy.

Amazing

CB

Thanks CB. I do so often wonder why there are so many 'evangelists' for unbelief! I still think it's funny the way folk put forward the proposition that if God was/is responsible for this then he can't exist. More twisted locic!!!

BTW CB, how are you? I'll pm you.

If you can't prove that I didn't create HIV then you have just proven I am God?

If you can't prove that I didn't create HIV then you have just proven I am God?

There you go. All hail.. Namaste TAWP.

If you can't prove that I didn't create HIV then you have just proven I am God?

There you go. All hail.. Namaste TAWP.

Sorry to go back on topic. This is what the Yangtze River Dolphin used to look like.

It's a shame.

I guess the locals won't be too upset that it's no longer being stocked at their favorite fish market.

What's next?

Sorry to go back on topic. This is what the Yangtze River Dolphin used to look like.

Good news Croc !

"Extinct" white-flag dolphin spotted in Yangtze River

WUHAN, Aug. 29 (Xinhua) -- A white-flag dolphin has been seen in Yangtze River in east China, just days after a leading Chinese scientist said the animal was likely extinct.

A man with a decoration company in east China's Anhui Province spotted a "big white animal" in the river at Xuba ferry in Tongling, Anhui, at 3:10 to 3:20 p.m. Aug. 19, and filmed it with a digital camera, said Dr. Wang Kexiong, of the Institute of Hydrobiology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

Judged from its appearance and living environment, the animal in the footage was confirmed by the institute to be a white-flag dolphin, known in Chinese as "baiji", Wang said.

"We are very glad to see baiji still exist in the world," Wang said.

"Many people have believed that baiji is extinct and this finding brings us a sliver of hope," said Wang Ding, a leading expert on the species from the hydrobiology institute of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. But he noted that it is still quite difficult to protect the endangered animal.

Because few of this species still live in the Yangtze River, their chance of mating is slim, said Wang Ding, who added that a measure is to gather these animals in one section of the river for breeding.

"This is no easy task. But if we don't do that, white-flag dolphins are doomed to go extinct," he said.

Zeng Yujiang, the man who spotted the dolphin, told Xinhua, "I never saw such a big thing in the water before, so I filmed it. It was about 1,000 meters away and jumped out of water for several times."

The footages were sent to the Tongling freshwater dolphin nature reserve to determine what the animal was. A staff with the Institute of Hydrobiology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, who happened to be in the nature reserve, then brought the footages to the institute based in Wuhan, capital of central China's Hubei Province, which was well-known for research on baiji.

The white-flag dolphin, unique to China's Yangtze River, is listed as one of the 12 most endangered species in the world. Its population dropped to below 150 in the early 1990s from around 400 a decade earlier.

A team of 25 scientists from China, the United States, Britain, Japan, Germany and Switzerland failed to find any white-flag dolphin during a 38-day search last year.

Wang Ding, who was then head of the team, said earlier this month "This result means the baiji is likely extinct."

Before the search, scientists had estimated there would be no more than 50 dolphins in the river, a prediction that appears wildly optimistic.

If the white-flag dolphin is extinct, it will be the first cetacean to vanish as a result of human activity as it is on the top of food chain in Yangtze River and has no natural enemy, according to Wang Ding.

The professor is planning a trip to Tongling with some experts. "I hope we could find that white-flag dolphin then," he said.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-08/...ent_6627940.htm

and other links:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-08...ent_6066263.htm

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...1657564,00.html

Note:

I read about this in a national newspaper, which also reported about the findings of dozens of dead -striped- dolphins on Mediterranean shores, probably killed by a mysterious unknown virus which could lead to a disaster amongst the endangered -striped- dolphins.

Than I searched Google and found the above article.

LaoPo

A sliver of hope indeed. Let's wait and see, it would be such a dreadful thing to happen for another species to be wiped out.

<deleted> them. What did they ever do for us?

That's a somewhat harsh condemnation of a poor dolphin who was minding his own business there, ski.

You picking up bad habits from that 'other place'?

If the white-flag dolphin is extinct, it will be the first cetacean to vanish as a result of human activity as it is on the top of food chain in Yangtze River and has no natural enemy, according to Wang Ding.

Except for people, in a country where they will eat anything. Will likely appear on a menu in Beijing where it will be claimed to have "thereputic powers" similar to those found in viagra

Have to feel sorry for the good Professor who only a short while back declared them extinct and then one of the buggers just pops up to prove him wrong. Talk about a loss of face. I am pleased that these animals seem to be clinging however precariously to life. However the numbers are so small that they will be genetically difficult to preserve. Unfortunately for the dolphin they aren't as "cute" as the panda that generates enormous good will and income to China as the symbol of World Conservation. Wouldn't have been so successful it they had decided on something like the small scaled tree gecko.

CB

If the white-flag dolphin is extinct, it will be the first cetacean to vanish as a result of human activity as it is on the top of food chain in Yangtze River and has no natural enemy, according to Wang Ding.

Except for people, in a country where they will eat anything. Will likely appear on a menu in Beijing where it will be claimed to have "thereputic powers" similar to those found in viagra

Have to feel sorry for the good Professor who only a short while back declared them extinct and then one of the buggers just pops up to prove him wrong. Talk about a loss of face. I am pleased that these animals seem to be clinging however precariously to life. However the numbers are so small that they will be genetically difficult to preserve. Unfortunately for the dolphin they aren't as "cute" as the panda that generates enormous good will and income to China as the symbol of World Conservation. Wouldn't have been so successful it they had decided on something like the small scaled tree gecko.

CB

Rare species all over the world CrowBoy, including Thailand...

Rare giant turtle rediscovered in Thailand

10 Jan 2007

TaKua Tung, Thailand – A local villager fishing in a mangrove in western Thailand got a surprise when he caught in his net a large turtle. The catch turned out to be a rare mangrove terrapin, a species that has not been observed in the wild in Thailand for over 20 years.

Realizing that this was an unusual find, the villager contacted a local specialist from WWF Thailand’s Marine and Coastal Resources Unit, based in the coastal province of Phang Nga, some 800km from the capital, Bangkok.

“In Thailand, this species is considered to be critically endangered and is classified similarly in Cambodia, Vietnam and Malaysia,” said Dr Chavalit Vidthayanon, a freshwater biologist at WWF Thailand.

“In the past, villagers could catch up to one thousand of these terrapins a year for their eggs, meat and shells.”

Rest article here:

http://www.panda.org/news_facts/newsroom/i...m?uNewsID=91680

It's the awareness of rare species, mammals, plants, insects etc which is important to/for people who haven't been educated about the same for centuries.

There are thousands of them..thousands, worldwide, but of course rare Dolphins -and the Panda- attract more attention than a rare plant or small insect although all of them are important as well for the future of our environment, nature and ourselves....

LaoPo

The significance in its loss is not it's beauty or its rarity - it is part of an eco-chain and ecosystem has been destroyed and an eco-system that humans depended on......