US Halts Military Aid to Ukraine Amid Push for Peace Talks

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

Had 47 made a deal with Ukraine and put "boots on the ground" all of you fools would be cheering him on, bunch of braindead chicken.

When did Zelensky ask for boots on the ground?

 

Braindead are any people who think a treaty of any kind signed with Putin is worth the paper it is written on.

 

Trump is a Russian asset. The rest of the world had better reset any alliances or intelligence sharing with America on that basis.

[RuamRudy]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Based in Belgium with a Dutch leader. Trump doesn't control it.

 

Do you know what consensus means? Decisions must be unanimous.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Lacessit said:

When did Zelensky ask for boots on the ground?

 

Braindead are any people who think a treaty of any kind signed with Putin is worth the paper it is written on.

 

Trump is a Russian asset. The rest of the world had better reset any alliances or intelligence sharing with America on that basis.

Trump the Russian asset gave weapons to their enemy Ukraine.  Strange move.

[Harrisfan]

The Trump administration plans to sell 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles to Ukraine, providing the government with a powerful new weapon to use against Russian-backed separatists. The proposed sale announced on March 1, which includes 37 launch units, is valued at $47 million

 

Strange move from a Russian shill 555

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Taboo2 said:

And?  Ukraine is hiring cannon fodder for Z-boy.  The Mafia controlled Government and their families are safe in Keiv...but you are free to go die for them.

 

I love our President for being wise enough to know that this war will go on and will cost us 400 billion dollars...and still no movement on either side.

 

So, please go sign up  and fight for the Ukranian Mafia!

Who knows what tasks their conscripts 

would be willing to to perform.

https://nypost.com/2024/09/16/us-news/ryan-wesley-routh-was-rejected-as-wack-job-in-ukraine-sources/

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

The point is to force Zelenskyy to negotiate a deal for rare minerals

Why should he be "forced" to do any negotiations for his Country's natural resources?

Just Trump steamrollering as usual but getting it ALL wrong.

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

When did Zelensky ask for boots on the ground?

 

He'd clearly rather just take the cold hard cash. 

 

A bit like when I gave my sister-in-law a car to take her kids to school and she said "Can't you just sell it and give me the money?" 😄

 

[frank83628]

29 minutes ago, transam said:

Yep, cornered, support a tyrant but not help him out.........

Off you go clown, you'll probably have swap your orange wig and squirty flower for a tin hat an rifle, i'd suggest some camo face paint too, white is a bit too visible 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Off you go clown, you'll probably have swap your orange wig and squirty flower for a tin hat an rifle, i'd suggest some camo face paint too, white is a bit too visible 

Are you feeling OK, sounds like you have just got your draft papers........😱

 

Don't worry, just write back that you have bone spurs, works every time........

[sambum]

3 hours ago, Airalee said:

Before this war, I’d bet that the opinion of Ukraine (amongst posters here) was that it is just some corrupt backwater with mail order brides.

 

Probably not much different than Russia….only poorer.

 

And now we care soooo much about them that random strangers will argue back and forth online……for years.

 

The reason being that many people do not like the idea of a "Superpower" illegally snatching another countries land! And that also means Americans stealing the land of the indigenous peoples, and the British Empire doing the same, (but they are trying to make amends for some of the wrongs - I don't see America doing much for the Indian tribes) 

[sambum]

16 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The Trump administration plans to sell 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles to Ukraine, providing the government with a powerful new weapon to use against Russian-backed separatists. The proposed sale announced on March 1, which includes 37 launch units, is valued at $47 million

 

Strange move from a Russian shill 555

 

The plans for which I presume are now "on hold"?

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hope you were this outraged when Biden's army fled Afghanistan like scared schoolgirls leaving mayhem, death and destruction? Why do I get the feeling you are only outraged when it comes to the orange fella?

The US's big mistake was fomenting the 2014 coup and destabilization of the country, compounded by corrupt politicians like Biden essentially running the country for profit. Now it's suddenly all Trump's fault? Jog on.

You post crap without any factual evidence.. That was trumps withdrawl plan not Biden.  Biden actually extended it because Trump f'd it up by not discussing the withdrawl with Afghanistan govt and only taliban. Get your facts straight 

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

The plans for which I presume are now "on hold"?

2018

[Airalee]

13 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

The reason being that many people do not like the idea of a "Superpower" illegally snatching another countries land! And that also means Americans stealing the land of the indigenous peoples, and the British Empire doing the same, (but they are trying to make amends for some of the wrongs - I don't see America doing much for the Indian tribes) 

Yeah…sure.

 

 

[dinsdale]

32 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Why should he be "forced" to do any negotiations for his Country's natural resources?

Just Trump steamrollering as usual but getting it ALL wrong.

He pays back the US taxpayer whose money Biden GAVE to him by agreeing to the natural resources deal Trump's put on the table which will involve US military security along with the EU into the future and will lead to a ceasefire and peace deal. This will happen. 

[Walker88]

Aiding and abetting dictators, aggressors and those who commit crimes against humanity. Why not add terrorists, too.

 

 

Immorality is now an American Ideal, as is cowardice.

 

Let's cut off aid to Israel, too, and bring Netanyahu to the peace table.

 

As they DON'T say in Thailand, "Same same, but NO different.

[Walker88]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

He pays back the US taxpayer whose money Biden GAVE to him by agreeing to the natural resources deal Trump's put on the table which will involve US military security along with the EU into the future and will lead to a ceasefire and peace deal. This will happen. 

Clueless.

 

The mineral resources are not only not particularly economic, but they are primarily in areas Russia now controls.

 

So the good and brave people of Ukraine get what?  Nada. ZIp. Ziffer.

 

The POTUS's paymaster gets what he demands of his quisling.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Clueless.

 

The mineral resources are not only not particularly economic, but they are primarily in areas Russia now controls.

 

So the good and brave people of Ukraine get what?  Nada. ZIp. Ziffer.

 

The POTUS's paymaster gets what he demands of his quisling.

Yep. Zelenskyy will pay back some of the money. The EU loaned him money. Biden gave him money. Trump wants some of it back. 

[riclag]

41 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

The reason being that many people do not like the idea of a "Superpower" illegally snatching another countries land! And that also means Americans stealing the land of the indigenous peoples, and the British Empire doing the same, (but they are trying to make amends for some of the wrongs - I don't see America doing much for the Indian tribes) 

More rubbish, from 

the people of the oppressed & divest.

 

 

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and govt freebies .

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/15-native-american-tribes-to-receive-580-million-in-federal-money-for-water-rights-settlement#:~:text=The Navajo Nation%2C which spans,the “role that tribal governments …

[Eric Loh]

35 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

2018

 

The Javelins were essentially provided to Ukraine under the condition that they not be used in the conflict zone.

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, transam said:

.Another Trump/Putin fanboy

No. Just a realist. Ukraine cannot win this war without the US even with European help. Zelenskyy has few cards to play with. 

[swerve]

4 hours ago, Taboo2 said:

Can you imagine if LBJ did this back in 1966?  So many young American kids would be alive today?  Thank God for President Trump.

 

No more money and weapons for a war that is going on for another 5 years!

 

No more dead young men on either side!

 

War is hell...all keyboard and <removed> folks need to understand that.  WAR is HELL on Earth.

 

 

The US is a war machine (military industrial complex).  Who are you to talk about antiwar anything?

[Galong]

Reality check: A large portion of U.S. aid to Ukraine benefits the American economy, particularly the defense industry. The money isn’t sent as cash but is used to replenish U.S. military stockpiles after weapons are sent to Ukraine. This funds major defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing, creating jobs and boosting production in states like Texas, Alabama, and Pennsylvania. It also modernizes the U.S. military without extra taxpayer costs. Additionally, supporting Ukraine weakens Russia and stabilizes global markets, indirectly benefiting U.S. economic interests. Much of the aid is a stimulus for American defense jobs and industry.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No. Just a realist. Ukraine cannot win this war without the US even with European help. Zelenskyy has few cards to play with. 

So the World must hand out sandwiches to an invading tyrant.........🤕

 

Good job you and your like were not around in 1939/45, or perhaps there were, but ignored.............

[rough diamond]

45 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

2018

2018 what?  Pounds of potatoes?

Yet another pointless post by you.

[rough diamond]

1 minute ago, transam said:

So the World must hand out sandwiches to an invading tyrant.........🤕

 

Good job you and your like were not around in 1939/45, or perhaps there were, but ignored.............

Have been looking at his back posts where he claims to be a teacher!!!!

God help the kids if he teaches history or morals!

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No. Just a realist. Ukraine cannot win this war without the US even with European help. Zelenskyy has few cards to play with. 

If win meant territorial gains, then the answer is no without US. Kind of make me sick that Trump has abandoned Ukraine at their times of needs. However Ukraine can still be in a favorable position with EU and other free world nations coming to their needs. Their nationalistic resilience will be their advantage and the Russian sanctions taking a toll on Putin. All is not lose as Trump betrayal become more pronounced. 

[frank83628]

57 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

The reason being that many people do not like the idea of a "Superpower" illegally snatching another countries land! And that also means Americans stealing the land of the indigenous peoples, and the British Empire doing the same, (but they are trying to make amends for some of the wrongs - I don't see America doing much for the Indian tribes) 

But did anyone in the west care much when it was ethnic Russian being killed by US backed goons from azof? 

 

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

So the World must hand out sandwiches to an invading tyrant.........🤕

 

Good job you and your like were not around in 1939/45, or perhaps there were, but ignored.............

Interesting you bring up WWII. Without the USA and the USSR how do you think things would have turned out?

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

If win meant territorial gains, then the answer is no without US. Kind of make me sick that Trump has abandoned Ukraine at their times of needs. However Ukraine can still be in a favorable position with EU and other free world nations coming to their needs. Their nationalistic resilience will be their advantage and the Russian sanctions taking a toll on Putin. All is not lose as Trump betrayal become more pronounced. 

Perhaps Biden inc should have made the negotiation table in the beginnng them would have saved 100000s lives