How do you want things to be like by 2028?

[hotsun]

The majority of posters here want trump shot, US market crash, US destroyed, without thinking about what thats going to do to their situation in whatever country they are living in. Seems like most here cant figure out what has left their home countries worse places, and how thats making the rest of the world worse as a result. Is western politics a case now of being careful what you wish for?

[Harrisfan]

They want a 7 year war

Markets to go up every year

Trump to be harmed

 

They are selfish and deranged.

[hotsun]

12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

They want a 7 year war

Markets to go up every year

Trump to be harmed

 

They are selfish and deranged.

Im looking at the threads going on and theyre all predictions about the markets crashing, US unemployment skyrocketing, societal collapse. Do these people think they are insulated from that?

[hotsun]

If the US collapsed and the world became more nationalistic as a result, i damn sure wouldnt feel comfortable about living in thailand where everyone else is struggling to get by

[NoDisplayName]

I'm shirley everyone will settle down once Vance is elected.

 

They can enjoy peace in Europe, a balanced US budget, and no taxes on their sociable security benefits.

[Lacessit]

54 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

I'm shirley everyone will settle down once Vance is elected.

 

They can enjoy peace in Europe, a balanced US budget, and no taxes on their sociable security benefits.

A balanced budget with $36.5 trillion in debt. Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?

[Hamus Yaigh]

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

I'm shirley everyone will settle down once Vance is elected.

So Shirley likes a knob eh?

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

Im looking at the threads going on and theyre all predictions about the markets crashing, US unemployment skyrocketing, societal collapse. Do these people think they are insulated from that?

Lefty predictions aren't worth much, they couldn't even predict Kamala was a loser, or Biden had lost his mind.

[Grumpy one]

I would be happy to still be breathing in 2028

[NoDisplayName]

32 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

A balanced budget with $36.5 trillion in debt. Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?

 

Other than interest payments of $1.2 trillion, the debt does NOT factor into the budget calculations.

 

You owe $50K on your Chinese EV.  You make $100K per year after taxes, you spend $90K per year on living expenses plus $10K per year on car payments.

 

Your budget is balanced.

 

Now you can cut frivolous expenses, like your transgender mouse experiments you perform in your basement, and begin to pay off your car loan and perhaps even your $100K student loan for your masters in lesbian street performing arts you hoped Biden would cancel.

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

Im looking at the threads going on and theyre all predictions about the markets crashing, US unemployment skyrocketing, societal collapse. Do these people think they are insulated from that?

Typical lefty brain of doom and gloom.

[NoDisplayName]

35 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

A balanced budget with $36.5 trillion in debt. Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?

 

Never mind.

 

You're the guy what doesn't understand "revenue."

 

"End of discussion."

[J Branche]

Let's start with a few problems, Debt and excessive spending these have been kicked down the road for 20 years.  We are at the point we are just paying the Interest.

I would like to see in 2028 there is a realistic long term plan to reduce debt to a reasonable level, our taxes are reduced, Healthcare and Prescription Drug prices are affordable, College Tuition is affordable, Wages allow for a decent quality of live with adding to returement savings possible.  This is the dream for the future in the US.

 

I'm not a label maker, don't have time to divide people and pick sides.

I am a problem and solution person, just want the job done.

[hotsun]

5 minutes ago, J Branche said:

Let's start with a few problems, Debt and excessive spending these have been kicked down the road for 20 years.  We are at the point we are just paying the Interest.

I would like to see in 2028 there is a realistic long term plan to reduce debt to a reasonable level, our taxes are reduced, Healthcare and Prescription Drug prices are affordable, College Tuition is affordable, Wages allow for a decent quality of live with adding to returement savings possible.  This is the dream for the future in the US.

 

I'm not a label maker, don't have time to divide people and pick sides.

I am a problem and solution person, just want the job done.

Seems like you are in a small minority. Im not seeing anyone here posting about what theyd like to see get better. 

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, hotsun said:

Is western politics a case now of being careful what you wish for?

I thought that was a general truth everywhere, for everything... 

[Harrisfan]

10 minutes ago, J Branche said:

Let's start with a few problems, Debt and excessive spending these have been kicked down the road for 20 years.  We are at the point we are just paying the Interest.

I would like to see in 2028 there is a realistic long term plan to reduce debt to a reasonable level, our taxes are reduced, Healthcare and Prescription Drug prices are affordable, College Tuition is affordable, Wages allow for a decent quality of live with adding to returement savings possible.  This is the dream for the future in the US.

 

I'm not a label maker, don't have time to divide people and pick sides.

I am a problem and solution person, just want the job done.

Well said. 

[Walker88]

Don’t confuse knowing what will happen with wanting something to happen.

 

The US would have been just fine, with a few minor hiccups from time to time, if it had avoided electing the current incompetent clown. Now, all the worst case scenarios are on the table.

 

A 20% market tumble this year is a certainty, as is the start of a Recession. Absent some dumb luck, more likely is a 50% market drop, double digit unemployment, and the US moving into a Depression. Tariffs, trade wars, alienating allies and yet more unnecessary tax cuts will do that.

 

Though not totally immune to the coming maelstrom, I have taken steps to minimize any impact the clownshow can have on me. I’m totally out of the market, have gone short term USTs and cash, diversified into other currencies, and have international acreage that is arable and has its own water source. I own a range of weapons, should society get nasty, and have at least 20K rounds of ammo in various makes, from 5.56 NATO to 9mm, and my practice targets all have silly red hats. I’m fortunate in that I was trained by the best.

 

As for predictability, I‘m pretty comfortable with my long term track record spotting trends, as that or dumb luck is what enabled me to retire at a tender age. I’m certainly never going to worry about digging 50 baht out of a Mike’s Shopping Mall pair of cargo shorts so that I can buy a plate of street food, like some MAGAs here. As Charlie Sheen says, WINNING!

 

I also know MAGAs and their messiah are quite poor at predicting anything. That’s why the average MAGA is rather unsuccessful, and their messiah blew a massive inheritance with poor decision-making and top-ticking markets, until saved by Mark Burnett making him a Game Show Host.

 

POTUS’ mouth diarrhea has already alienated former friends and allies, and led even gentle Canada into imposing its own tariffs on US goods, not bothering to wait for the whiner in the White House to finally make up his mind.

 

A major fear I have is for a terrorist attack, because intel-sharing with former friendly liaison services has already stopped. Nobody trusts the President, and they are not about to hand over intel that could reveal clandestine assets or SIGINT operations, assuming the POTUS would either mouth off or hand intel to his buddy Putin. I wouldn’t even rule out the possibility of POTUS falling to a Ukrainian hit squad, or even a Danish one. Those Vikings should not be taken lightly.

 

I’m guesstimating a 30% possibility that the US sees secession by successful Blue States before 2028. There are already secession movements in California and Washington, and any move by them would have New England and NY do the same.

 

I remember back in 2020 when the ‘really stable geniuses’ of MAGAstan predicted a horrible 4 years under Biden. Well, they couldn’t have been more wrong. Since 2020, US economic growth was three times the average of other G7 nations, and was the highest US growth since under Bill Clinton in the 1990s. Biden presided over 41 straight months of <4% Unemployment, the longest streak in 64 years, and no President ever saw higher job creation.

 

If there’s anything I would like to see, it is not POTUS getting shot, but maybe a stroke leaving him a drooling, blabbering idiot (might be tough to tell the difference from the present), and then after a period of karmic suffering for a life poorly lived, let him pass and get tossed into an unmarked grave, upon which dogs void themselves. I really don’t think that is too much to ask.

[KhunLA]

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

The majority of posters here want trump shot, US market crash, US destroyed, without thinking about what thats going to do to their situation in whatever country they are living in. Seems like most here cant figure out what has left their home countries worse places, and how thats making the rest of the world worse as a result. Is western politics a case now of being careful what you wish for?

I disagree, as I think most posters here are ...

... completely ignorant of politics, economics & world affairs

... living month to month

... saving up for their next orgasm with another person

... hope to drink enough alcohol to forget their reality till tomorrow

... have no plan for next week, let alone next USA presidential cycle

... aren't Yanks but obsessed about the USA more than Yanks

... full of hate for everything  one can imagine

... wouldn't know what to do without the forum, as it seems to be their life

 

Well, I feel better ... 

and that's all that matters 😎

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, J Branche said:

Let's start with a few problems, Debt and excessive spending these have been kicked down the road for 20 years.  We are at the point we are just paying the Interest.

I would like to see in 2028 there is a realistic long term plan to reduce debt to a reasonable level, our taxes are reduced, Healthcare and Prescription Drug prices are affordable, College Tuition is affordable, Wages allow for a decent quality of live with adding to returement savings possible.  This is the dream for the future in the US.

 

I'm not a label maker, don't have time to divide people and pick sides.

I am a problem and solution person, just want the job done.

I am not sure it is possible. However, in terms of healthcare, America could do worse than to follow the Australian model. Our PBS system is very good.

 

Part of America's solution would be to limit the ability of lawyers ( we call them ambulance chasers ) to get eye-watering sums for medical malpractice. Some of the damages awarded are ludicrous.

 

This drives up the cost of professional  indemnity insurance, the doctors are forced to increase their fees, lawyers feast on the court cases.

 

I have posted on other threads how a tax on revenue would reverse the hollowing out of the middle class.

 

 

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Typical lefty brain of doom and gloom.

Yep. They must have violence hate war and chaos to reach their goal

[save the frogs]

23 hours ago, hotsun said:

Im looking at the threads going on and theyre all predictions about the markets crashing, US unemployment skyrocketing, societal collapse. Do these people think they are insulated from that?

 

There is an AI job-apocalypse coming.

 

Societal collapse doesnt necessarily mean the end of the world. It could be a collapse to build something new and different. And better or worse? Who knows? Maybe that also depends on you. Some people don't like change and will always be nostalgic for "the good 'ol days". 

 

The WEF (World Economic Forum) is planning "The Great Reset" for 2030, largely based on AI restructuring the economy.

 

Some people have dubbed what's coming as "Post-Labor Economics"

 

Hard to know what things will look like, but most likely some massive changes in how we live in the next 5-10 years. 

 

Maybe the stock market will cease to exist as we know it? Stock market is corrupt anyway, as far as I'm concerned. 

 

People think Trump is responsible for EVERYTHING. He's not. 

 

 

[Harrisfan]

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I disagree, as I think most posters here are ...

... completely ignorant of politics, economics & world affairs

... living month to month

... saving up for their next orgasm with another person

... hope to drink enough alcohol to forget their reality till tomorrow

... have no plan for next week, let alone next USA presidential cycle

... aren't Yanks but obsessed about the USA more than Yanks

... full of hate for everything  one can imagine

... wouldn't know what to do without the forum, as it seems to be their life

 

Well, I feel better ... 

and that's all that matters 😎

Trump is listed in 2028 markets. The betting groups are having a laugh.

 

I find it annoying a good curry is so hard to find outside the big cities. Thais don't like curries.

[mogandave]

I want Vance-Bondi in ‘28

[Harrisfan]

Just now, mogandave said:

I want Vance-Bondi in ‘28

Bondi Beach?

[Harrisfan]

Vance is polling well if you know how to read polls. The left say nobody likes him. I have him 0.5% ahead of Trump.

[Screaming]

Seeing as how President Trump is doing such a wonderful job cleaning up after the disaster that old sleepy Joe caused to the good citizens of the United States, I am looking forward to Trump's reelection in 2028. Life is looking good.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Screaming said:

Seeing as how President Trump is doing such a wonderful job cleaning up after the disaster that old sleepy Joe caused to the good citizens of the United States, I am looking forward to Trump's reelection in 2028. Life is looking good.

That's a troll of course. He's not allowed to run in 28. So you don't want a president. You want a God/King/Dictator.

[TedG]

18 hours ago, Lacessit said:

A balanced budget with $36.5 trillion in debt. Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?

A budget can be balanced with debt.   Do you understand the difference between debt and deficit? 

[TedG]

16 hours ago, Walker88 said:

 

 

A 20% market tumble this year is a certainty, as is the start of a Recession. Absent some dumb luck, more likely is a 50% market drop, double digit unemployment, and the US moving into a Depression. Tariffs, trade wars, alienating allies and yet more unnecessary tax cuts will do that.

 

 

We should revisit your prediction next year. 

[TedG]

16 hours ago, Walker88 said:

 

 

I remember back in 2020 when the ‘really stable geniuses’ of MAGAstan predicted a horrible 4 years under Biden. Well, they couldn’t have been more wrong. Since 2020, US economic growth was three times the average of other G7 nations, and was the highest US growth since under Bill Clinton in the 1990s. Biden presided over 41 straight months of <4% Unemployment, the longest streak in 64 years, and no President ever saw higher job creation.

 

I

 

Joeflation was fantastic for the middle and lower class.