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On 3/15/2025 at 7:00 AM, Social Media said:

A growing number of wealthy British families are rushing to relocate to Italy and Greece before April 5 to avoid the upcoming tax reforms set to take effect in the new financial year.

 

Didn't Brexit prevent this?

 

I thought we were barred from EU countries.

 

Oh that's right. Project Fear...

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Posted
31 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Didn't Brexit prevent this?

 

I thought we were barred from EU countries.

 

Oh that's right. Project Fear...

Not barred, but no longer a right to live anywhere in the EU.  Disappointing that Starmer didn't take the opportunity to allow more freedom of movement. 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not barred, but no longer a right to live anywhere in the EU.  Disappointing that Starmer didn't take the opportunity to allow more freedom of movement. 

UK citizens have every right to live anywhere in EU. They just need to go through a few easy procedures.

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Posted
20 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

Does that include the Royals?

 

They already  voluntarily pay income tax on income from the Duchies and earnings from personal investments. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

1) No, Brexit was never going to prevent extremely wealthy Britons from moving to just about anywhere they want. What it did do was prevent the overwhelming majority of the population of the UK freely residing in the other EU states and seeking employment there without restriction.

 

2) Once again, you are mistaken. UK nationals are free to visit EU member states - to be exact, the Schengen zone -  as tourists for up to 90 days in any (rolling) 180 day period.

 

3) 1) and 2) are not examples of 'Project Fear' but the reality of what the ordinary Briton faces today. Throw in the increased bureaucracy and difficulties faced by UK businesses importing from/ exporting to the EU plus the general negative effect of Brexit on the economy and those promised 'sunny uplands' seem to be shrouded in apparently permanent darkness. 

 

Hope that has helped to clarify things for you.

 

Wait until Trump hammers the EU on trade. 

 

Even bitter Remainers will be glad to be disassociated from the corrupt EU protectionist racket. 

 

Well maybe not the old diehards like you. But most moderate Liberals will. 

 

Funny how the EU are suddenly anti tariff and pro free trade when the whole concept of the EU is built around tariffs for anyone outside the United States of Europe.

 

Regulate and tax the opposition out of competition. Well they are going to have to taste their own bitter medicine and I will love every minute of it.

 

I hooe Trump absolutely hammers them. Especially German auto. 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not barred, but no longer a right to live anywhere in the EU.  Disappointing that Starmer didn't take the opportunity to allow more freedom of movement. 

 

How much more freedom of movement do you want with the hundreds of migrants arriving every day?

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3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not barred, but no longer a right to live anywhere in the EU.  Disappointing that Starmer didn't take the opportunity to allow more freedom of movement. 

 

They still have a right they just have to fill in a form first.

 

Starmer will allow more cultural enrichers from mainland Europe as soon as he thinks he is in a strong enough position to do so.

 

He wants the boat people to vote for him in 4 years. Same as Harris did with the southern border crossers. How did that work out for DEI Harris?

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Posted
2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

UK citizens have every right to live anywhere in EU. They just need to go through a few easy procedures.

 

UK citizens do not have every right to live anywhere in the EU. They have every right to apply for a long-stay visa and then, possibly, be granted residency.

 

The requirements vary by individual EU country but generally to apply for a long-stay visa, a UK national will need to have a) a job offer from a local company b) a close family relative who is a national c) an offer to study in the country d) a sizeable amount of money.

 

Whether the procedures associated with applying for a long-stay visa can be described as "easy", and whether having gone through the process, the individual is granted a visa is another matter. 

 

One thing's for sure: It was a lot simpler for a UK national to be able to live in an EU country when we were a member than it is now.

Posted
13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

They still have a right they just have to fill in a form first.

 

Incorrect. See my other post.

 

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Starmer will allow more cultural enrichers from mainland Europe as soon as he thinks he is in a strong enough position to do so.

 

The mask is slipping.

 

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

He wants the boat people to vote for him in 4 years. Same as Harris did with the southern border crossers. How did that work out for DEI Harris?

 

Given that only British citizens can vote in UK general elections and it normally takes 5 years to become a British resident (not a citizen), this would appear to be a very flawed plan.

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32 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

How much more freedom of movement do you want with the hundreds of migrants arriving every day?

 

Illegal immigrants will arrive irrespective of whether the UK is inside or outside the EU.

 

Legal immigration to the UK has increased since Brexit. Removal of freedom of movement for EU nationals is one - arguably the main - contributory reason for this.

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31 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

UK citizens do not have every right to live anywhere in the EU. They have every right to apply for a long-stay visa and then, possibly, be granted residency.

 

The requirements vary by individual EU country but generally to apply for a long-stay visa, a UK national will need to have a) a job offer from a local company b) a close family relative who is a national c) an offer to study in the country d) a sizeable amount of money.

 

Whether the procedures associated with applying for a long-stay visa can be described as "easy", and whether having gone through the process, the individual is granted a visa is another matter. 

 

One thing's for sure: It was a lot simpler for a UK national to be able to live in an EU country when we were a member than it is now.

As I said, they just need to go through a few easy procedures.

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Just now, youreavinalaff said:

As I said, they just need to go through a few easy procedures.

 

No what you said was, "UK citizens have every right to live anywhere in EU. They just need to go through a few easy procedures", which is incorrect.

 

If a UK national does not fit into one of the four categories which I listed in my previous post - and most do not - then they are extremely unlikely to be granted the right to remain in the EU for more than 90 days in any 180-day rolling period.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

No what you said was, "UK citizens have every right to live anywhere in EU. They just need to go through a few easy procedures", which is incorrect.

 

If a UK national does not fit into one of the four categories which I listed in my previous post - and most do not - then they are extremely unlikely to be granted the right to remain in the EU for more than 90 days in any 180-day rolling period.

Like I said.........

 

You are just confirming what I said. With the exception of your last paragraph, as it contains exaggerations.

 

I don't understand why you come across as argumentative when you are showing what I said to be correct.

 

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50 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Like I said.........

 

You are just confirming what I said. With the exception of your last paragraph, as it contains exaggerations.

 

I don't understand why you come across as argumentative when you are showing what I said to be correct.

 

 

I am not questioning that you said, "UK citizens have every right to live anywhere in EU. They just need to go through a few easy procedures". It is there for all to see. 

 

What I disagree with is the accuracy of the statement. As I stated before UK nationals have every right to APPLY to live in the EU, they do NOT have every right to live there. To state the obvious, applying for residency and that application for residency being approved are two completely different things, and most UK nationals will not now fulfill the criteria necessary to be granted a long-stay visa in an EU member state.

 

The physical act of completing the application form may well be easy. The steps involving in securing the necessary documentation to satisfy the issuing authorities probably aren't so simple.

 

I originally stated that "The requirements vary by individual EU country but generally to apply for a long-stay visa, a UK national will need to have a) a job offer from a local company b) a close family relative who is a national c) an offer to study in the country d) a sizeable amount of money." I should have added a fifth category to cover Brits who were living in the EU prior to 31 January 2020, although I am unsure if their (almost) automatic right to residency has now expired? In any event, which part of this explanation is an exaggeration?

 

I am being argumentative because you will not accept that your original statement is incorrect. As soon as you do - either explicitly or tacitly by not replying to me - then I will stop.

Posted
On 3/15/2025 at 7:00 AM, Social Media said:

A growing number of wealthy British families are rushing to relocate to Italy and Greece before April 5

 

And how many more might be planning to relocate to Thailand clutching passports containing brand new Long-Term Resident visas, I wonder???

 

Posted
1 hour ago, RayC said:

 

I am not questioning that you said, "UK citizens have every right to live anywhere in EU. They just need to go through a few easy procedures". It is there for all to see. 

 

What I disagree with is the accuracy of the statement. As I stated before UK nationals have every right to APPLY to live in the EU, they do NOT have every right to live there. To state the obvious, applying for residency and that application for residency being approved are two completely different things, and most UK nationals will not now fulfill the criteria necessary to be granted a long-stay visa in an EU member state.

 

The physical act of completing the application form may well be easy. The steps involving in securing the necessary documentation to satisfy the issuing authorities probably aren't so simple.

 

I originally stated that "The requirements vary by individual EU country but generally to apply for a long-stay visa, a UK national will need to have a) a job offer from a local company b) a close family relative who is a national c) an offer to study in the country d) a sizeable amount of money." I should have added a fifth category to cover Brits who were living in the EU prior to 31 January 2020, although I am unsure if their (almost) automatic right to residency has now expired? In any event, which part of this explanation is an exaggeration?

 

I am being argumentative because you will not accept that your original statement is incorrect. As soon as you do - either explicitly or tacitly by not replying to me - then I will stop.

Carry on all you like. My statement was true. Just as we have a right to live in Thailand, so long as we abide by the rules. That's true also.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Carry on all you like. My statement was true. Just as we have a right to live in Thailand, so long as we abide by the rules. That's true also.

 

Your statement was, is and will remain incorrect unless the law(s) governing UK nationals seeking residency in the EU change, or unless your statement amounts to nothing more than 'A UK national can fill in an application form for EU residency'; in which case it is effectively meaningless. The words 'UK' and 'EU' could be replaced by virtually any other nationality/ country and the statement would be true (and equally devoid of any substantive meaning). It certainly does not mean that the applicant will be given the right to reside in the country in question.

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