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Brilliant.

Hold off...

For now...

A mate with family has booked a stay in May for more than 30 days relying on the 60 day stay.

Safe way get a tourist visa.

And then? Next day they will cancel the idea?

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1 hour ago, webfact said:

Ministry spokesman Nikorndej Balankura reassured that no new visa regulations are currently in place,

 

Another flip-flop, no wonder other countries won't invest in Thailand.

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Sounds like Shakespeare.. to or not to be that is the question... In Thailand the same.. Today they announce this tomorrow the opposite, than a whole lot of talking and a lot of unrest, a lot of unclearness and than delaying to relive again a few months later... Thailand doesn't dare to change things, conservatism will keep the country back and also investors don't dare to invest.. Because what today is possible/allowed can be changed tomorrow... Look at the re introducing of the arrival card. With a few weeks to go nothing is clear yet, and probably it will be delayed too.. Left hand doesn't know what the right hand does or wants

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I think Malaysia has the right idea.  You can show up at the airport and they stamp you in for 180 days?  Something like that.  I'm not sure if that's for every country, but it seems like a simple thing to do and cuts down on all the bureaucracy. 

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56 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Brilliant.

Hold off...

For now...

A mate with family has booked a stay in May for more than 30 days relying on the 60 day stay.

Safe way get a tourist visa.

And then? Next day they will cancel the idea?

It wont change overnight lol

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2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I think Malaysia has the right idea.  You can show up at the airport and they stamp you in for 180 days?  Something like that.  I'm not sure if that's for every country, but it seems like a simple thing to do and cuts down on all the bureaucracy. 

90 days for most western Passports, same as Singapore

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2 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

90 days for most western Passports, same as Singapore

Yep. I just looked.  For some reason, 180 stuck in my mind.  Still, 90 days is not bad.  

 

I think it's Mexico that will routinely give you 180 days.  Maybe some other countries do that as well. 

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1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

And then? Next day they will cancel the idea?

 

Or reduce it to 15 days? Thailand is up and down no planning involved (they simply don't know how to do it,} so it's still a country that sells bananas.

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34 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I think Malaysia has the right idea.  You can show up at the airport and they stamp you in for 180 days?  Something like that.  I'm not sure if that's for every country, but it seems like a simple thing to do and cuts down on all the bureaucracy. 

 

 The Malaysia evisa offers 30 days, Visa on Arrival is 30 days for Thais, Indians and Chinese.  Some countries qualify for up to 90 days.  Any  intent to stay longer needs to obtain the full visa, which requires  documentation.

 

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I knew some girls who were like this: "I love you, I hate you, I can't live without you".   Next day same, same.  Ah, making decision after a thorough review, analysis and consulting all relevant parties is normally the best course of action.  Of course after making a decision it is best to stick with it.  

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1 hour ago, watchcat said:

 

Another flip-flop, no wonder other countries won't invest in Thailand.

 

Thailand the Hub of flip flops.....And the Hub of misunderstandings....

Posted
35 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

90 days for most western Passports, same as Singapore

Strange that most of the countries that offer 90 day visa free entry seem to stay the course while LOS flip  flops from 30 to 60 then 30 and "ah never mind back to 60 until the next flip flop".  Perception when it comes to planning for international travel is important.   I wonder what travelers will think after hearing about this flip, flop? Obviously this will not affect those who are only planning for 30 days or less but those who want to stay longer it will.  Does LOS not want long stay tourists? 

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The king of the flip flops.....

How about the ban on afternoon alcohol sales......This worthless rule has been flip flopping around for decades from press release teases of it being lifted  soon, to no we absolutely must keep this rule.......Year after year.....

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They won't make any changes because it would be an admission they made mistakes. 

 

The sheer volume of Russian and Chinese visitors working (when you stray beyond the tourist path) is astonishing. The Chinese visitors especially are just piliging Thailand for everything. 

 

The 60 day rule, with an extension - essentially allows you to stay non stop with the odd flight back to reset. To go back to 30 day, will highlight those abusing the system. It won't stop illegals working, but it will greatly reduce it. 

 

WIll they do it? No. Because it's the current administration that has basically opened the borders with it's ridiculous easy entry to the whole world, esentially making Thailand an open border to the world - something no other country has done - politics of the playground not real world.

 

The results have been a disaster - with an increase of low rent visitors, crime risen, cheap tourists who spend low, the mass turn off of quality high spending tourists, and open hostility growing from locals (which will only increase if you see what is happening in European tourist spots and Japan). If you allow visitors to stay long term in Thailand (with little checks) they will seek income - it's obvious, and they will take local jobs that should be protected for Thais.

 

You have videos of indian tourists sleeping 20 to a small room, never mind the horrific worldwide viral videos of them sleeping on beaches. The sexual predatory nature of their visits to Pattaya. A visa on arrival would have ensured every India visitor had a hotel booking in their name. But nope this adminstration just threw everything out, including visa outs with a sheer lunacy stimulus. Irony being India doesn't even let Thai's in visa free, despite a much worst economy per person. Vietnam, Malaysia all have checks and balances (including return tickets and accomdoation checks with their visas for Indians). 

 

As i say, other countries may offer an increased amount of stay for certain nationalities - but they also mix in greater controls on certain nationalities. For example, Vietnam ensures Indians obtain a visa before arrival, and ensure every visitor has a hotel booking and return ticket. Thailand has no such checks.

 

The real issue is the extreme lax in the implentation of the DTV. It needs reviewing immediately. 

 

The goal may have been to increaase tax revenues from foods and goods, and help the struggling real estate market. But all that's happened is cheap tourists who don't spend alot per head flood the country, pile pressure on infrustructure, and increase crime, and take jobs from local Thais. The real estate market has become decimated by the short term rental as potential buyers fear a shiny new condo will become a short term rental hub flooded by horrific tourists. 

 

The issue with short term rentals and has priced out local Thai's  - forcing them to move to the outskirts as visitors take up more space. In countries that are still developing it's dangerous to begin to use homes as investment opportunities. The Thai population still need protecting. 

 

Policing has become soft, with fears for putting of tourists - ironically having the opposite effect, as visuals on social media show the growing volume of crime and violence in Thailand, fuelled by drugs and alcohol. There should be a no nonsense approach to the hoardes of Bendirom British and drunk Russians misbehaving. 

 

Thai solution is to add more cheap visitors into this mix is beyond parody. Thailand is bordering on nearly 40 million tourists, and now mix into that you have a set that are staying long term. No other country is having such a huge influx of visitors like this. Countries like Singapore, Malaysia seek out quality tourists with higher spends per net. Singapore offers no free entry to Indian visitors for example. To simply say 'Singapore offers so many days more' is misleading. 

 

The enviromental and physical impact with mass increase in visitors on the country is startling. Go see the impact on Phuket and the horrific over development as a result. Beautiful islands wrecked by over tourism. 

 

There needs to be an immediate return to a 30 day visa programme. 

Implentation of visa on arrival protocols for certain nationalities (like India) to ensure there are return tickets, and each person has a hotel booking in their name. 

The DTV has to be stopped, and a more easier to obtain version of the Elite visa implemented (that isn't ridiculous expensive and impossible to obtain, but stronger than DTV). 

 

 

Nothing will change. The only ones to gain are 7/11 shops and cheap tourists spending money on cheese toasties. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jas007 said:

Yep. I just looked.  For some reason, 180 stuck in my mind.  Still, 90 days is not bad.  

 

I think it's Mexico that will routinely give you 180 days.  Maybe some other countries do that as well. 

 

   It maybe a good idea for you to find the correct info first , rather than thinking out loud whilst typing whilst posting on here ?

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