German Tourist Severely Beaten in Pattaya by Group of 10 Men

[petermik]

4 hours ago, cdemundo said:

 

Not saying it was justified, only that it was avoidable, and a result of poor judgement by the farang.

Some people can find a beating wherever they go.

And only too many locals willing to oblige...

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, Hellfire said:

How have you managed to survive here for 30 years? According to your own posts, you should have been murdered by now—or at the very least, severely assaulted. What level of hypocrisy does it take to hate a place while choosing to live in it for three decades?

 

Don't hate anything.

 

I just speak as it is, warts and all as opposed to some of you that prefer to describe it as some Valhalla  which it isn't

 

I don't walk around in a trance saying how wonderful everything is.

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What are you smoking? I saw the violence in London for myself.

Where?

[Scouse123]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Either you know nothing about NZ or are being silly. NZ is very violent and I do not feel safe anywhere. Country is over run by gangs.

You are talking specific problem areas, you certainly are not takjing NZ as a whole

[Scouse123]

5 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Maybe because as far as I can remember, whenever there is a case of this kind of terrible violence the farang involved brought it on themselves to some extent.

Not saying it was justified, only that it was avoidable, and a result of poor judgement by the farang.

Some people can find a beating wherever they go.

That's the one

 

Without evidence  or knowledge, let's blame the victim.

 

You really are a piece of work.

 

Let's say ifs buts and maybes to justify 10 against 1

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, Hellfire said:

How have you managed to survive here for 30 years? According to your own posts, you should have been murdered by now—or at the very least, severely assaulted. What level of hypocrisy does it take to hate a place while choosing to live in it for three decades?

 

Stupid response

 

The Gods moved fast to educate you, but you were quicker off the mark.

[cdemundo]

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

Your argument is sunk to the bottom of the Ocean, those guys intervened just purely and simply to vent anger because the guy was a foreigner.

 

They admitted as much, they admitted they didn't know what the argument was even about.

 

Too many on here need calling out, they try to ' go local ' and pretend they are ' almost Thai ' all is rosy in the garden, and Thais are ' my friends ' etc.

 

Well, you come upcountry and get into a dispute with anybody, no matter how much ' right ' is on your side, they are not interested.

 

Get into a land dispute or lend them money, and you'll soon see how friendly they are.

I certainly didn't mean to trigger you, you obviously had some difficulty understanding my post after your trigger went off.

 

I didn't defend Thais at all.

Your examples of a land dispute or lending money maybe have autobiographical significance to you but have nothing to do with the current discussion which is about encounters between strangers.

 

The point in a late night encounter between strangers is that often they are avoidable.

Sorry the bad Thais did bad things to you.

[cdemundo]

5 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

That's the one

 

Without evidence  or knowledge, let's blame the victim.

 

You really are a piece of work.

 

Let's say ifs buts and maybes to justify 10 against 1

Yes well I can see by your level-headed response in this discussion that you are not the type to overreact and cause your self needless trouble.

 

We may get to the facts of this occurrence but the victim was reluctant to discuss it so probably not.

[Scouse123]

38 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

I certainly didn't mean to trigger you, you obviously had some difficulty understanding my post after your trigger went off.

 

I didn't defend Thais at all.

Your examples of a land dispute or lending money maybe have autobiographical significance to you but have nothing to do with the current discussion which is about encounters between strangers.

 

The point in a late night encounter between strangers is that often they are avoidable.

Sorry the bad Thais did bad things to you.

I'll leave it at that.

 

Cheers

[black tabby12345]

 Local police in Pattaya swiftly arrested three suspects involved in the assault, which has tarnished the city's reputation as a tourist destination.

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Looks like news editors of this forum finally stopped saying "Family Friendly tourist destination" when they report an incident from Pattaya.

 

They must have woken up to the reality.

[black tabby12345]

On 3/25/2025 at 9:49 AM, ozz1 said:

Again an example of a great family oriented place there must be more to this surely

 

I noticed something about this news.

 

Unlike many other incidents reports from Pattaya, it didn't say "family friendly" today.

 

Instead, it simply mentioned "tourist destination".

 

 

[Hellfire]

2 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Don't hate anything.

 

I just speak as it is, warts and all as opposed to some of you that prefer to describe it as some Valhalla  which it isn't

 

I don't walk around in a trance saying how wonderful everything is.

Me neither. But as one of my favorite sayings goes: everything is known through comparison. In my opinion, Thailand is a unique country when it comes to human interactions—though it's far from being a paradise. Of course, this is just my personal opinion, but one that many others share.

[Dont confuse me]

On 3/25/2025 at 7:39 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

The OP, very clearly, reported his name as being David Adrian Lelonek.

It was also very clearly reported that the name of one of the suspected attackers was named ....yes you guessed it...BENZ!

Perhaps you might find reading and digesting all the post beneficial before you comment?

[papa al]

On 3/25/2025 at 11:25 AM, Woke to Sounds said:

It's possible the German guy got lippy and deserved to get his axrse tuned.

 

Wonder if Mr Benz drives a Beemer.

Prolly has a daughter named Mercedes.

[Gaixare]

12 hours ago, cdemundo said:

The man said "My personal experience with Thailand - the safest country on Earth. "

So obviously he wasn't talking about this unfortunate incident.

Send to him this video and Soi 6 Foreigner head Kick

[cdemundo]

3 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

Send to him this video and Soi 6 Foreigner head Kick

Watching a video would not change a person's personal experience would it?

 

[Gaixare]

34 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Watching a video would not change a person's personal experience would it?

 

Yep, just show him the result.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Gaixare said:

How annoying you are, people constantly saying that in such situations the foreigner is most likely to blame, not the Thai! Thais have a lot of "cockroaches" in their heads.

The problem is that Thais still end up accumulating negativity, no matter what Buddhists they call themselves. This is aggravated when they see a lot of rich tourists, they begin to envy (this is especially noticeable in Pattaya), and this mentally poisons a person, making her toxic. Plus their women dream of and are drawn to white-skinned foreigners - they are taller, physically stronger, have a big cock, are rich, etc. In general, in the end, the accumulated negativity of these Buddhists still begins to come out. And initially, all Asians in general are not distinguished by courage (I am trying to be correct, you understand what I mean) and their psyche is weak. Therefore, some little thing can explode their accumulated negativity, which we see in this video. And this trend is growing. I'm watching this so I can escape from here in time.

If a foreigner annoys the locals then yes they are to blame. Most tourists are polite, don't annoy the locals, and have no problems at all during their visit. There is always the exception that gets drunk, abuses the locals and then complains that they got a bit of agro.

Don't like the Thais- news flash- stay away from Thailand.

 

 

Plus their women dream of and are drawn to white-skinned foreigners

You just revealed that you know sod all about Thai women.

[watchcat]

On 3/25/2025 at 2:27 AM, webfact said:

A German tourist was violently attacked by a group of about ten men on Pattaya Beach Road

 

Sounds like a nice place to visit.

 

 

[Gaixare]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If a foreigner annoys the locals then yes they are to blame. Most tourists are polite, don't annoy the locals, and have no problems at all during their visit.

How not to irritate the locals if they behave like children, for example, on the roads? Absolutely not understanding that the 1-3 ton box with wheels they control can easily kill other people if they do not follow the traffic rules, considering it unimportant. This is just an example, in fact, it concerns almost all aspects of life. And in general, this is a classic problem between the southern and northern.

 

 

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

There is always the exception that gets drunk, abuses the locals and then complains that they got a bit of agro.

Yes, agree. Outright <deleted>. But not all! Maybe... I don't know for example 20%.
But this is not about me at all, mentally I am a German (a perfectionist, a fanatic of technology, a rule-lover, not a person but just a robot, tech nerd, I'm OK with all this).
But many Thais quickly label me as one of those outright <deleted>!
 

 

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Don't like the Thais- news flash- stay away from Thailand.

I'm here only because of the local female attention. Otherwise I would definitely have chosen another country, on another continent.  As long as there is a lot of local female attention to me and I will be more or less safe here.

 

 

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Plus their women dream of and are drawn to white-skinned foreigners

You just revealed that you know sod all about Thai women.

 

If you know female psychology well, even just Thai women, you should probably be a Nobel Prize winner.

Yesterday I went to pool of my hotel. There was a group of four very young Thai girls (I think 15-19, I'm over 40). They had dark and unkempt skin, most likely laborers. My hotel is average in price, most likely they are from the village and saved up money for a couple of days of rest in Pattaya. I knew that they would start pestering me, and it started. They were the first to start a conversation, but fortunately they only know a few words of English and therefore they could not support the conversation with me. Thank God it all ended there, because they were unkempt and unattractive, although beautiful like most young Thai girls.

PS: As I said, if it weren't for the increased female attention to me here, I would definitely live in another country, on another continent, where people are much better than Thais and more often meet a Pantheist (pure Buddhist) like me.

[Trip Hop]

On 3/25/2025 at 11:19 AM, MalcolmB said:

I have forgotten more than you will ever know.

Ah, that old chestnut. If you knew anything you wouldn’t have made such a crass comment. I repeat, your ignorance is profound. 

[brewsterbudgen]

9 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

Sounds like a nice place to visit.

 

 

 It's improved a lot in recent years, as has the beach.  But not a great place to be at 4am.

[tomacht8]

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/motorcycle-taxi-driver-strikes-german-tourist-with-helmet-in-pattaya-clash-surrenders-to-police-495412

 

Now the mototaxi driver has given his statement to the police, and it's ridiculous beyond belief. He wanted to de-escalate the situation. To do so, he nearly cracked the victim's skull with his helmet and kicked him in the face while he was lying on the ground.

De-escalate my a..s

I hope he not get with 500 Baht away.

 

[condo62]

Only 10 surprised.....🤔 Very brave  men. 

In Thailand they are either very happy or very angry.

[newbee2022]

On 3/25/2025 at 9:27 AM, webfact said:

Picture courtesy of Daily News

 

A German tourist was violently attacked by a group of about ten men on Pattaya Beach Road in Chonburi. Local police in Pattaya swiftly arrested three suspects involved in the assault, which has tarnished the city's reputation as a tourist destination.

 

The incident occurred around 4:06 am on 25th March, with emergency services and police quickly arriving on the scene following reports of an assault.

 

The victim, identified as Mr. David Adrian Lelonek, 40, suffered extensive injuries, including facial wounds and a laceration above his left eyebrow. Rescuers promptly provided first aid before rushing him to hospital.

 

Mr. Lelonek, speaking through a translator, informed the police that he was unsure of the attack's details but recalled being overwhelmed by approximately ten attackers. In a panic, he fled on a motorbike to seek help from locals until authorities arrived.

 

 

 

 

Eyewitness footage recorded by a bystander showed the severity of the assault, with the gang punching, kicking, and even using a helmet to beat the tourist, despite onlookers' attempts to intervene.

 

Pattaya's Deputy Investigation Chief, Police Lieutenant Colonel Arus Saphanont, quickly led an investigation, resulting in the arrest of three men nearby: Mr. Ta, 18, Mr. Benz, 25, and Mr. Sek, 27.

 

Picture courtesy: Daily News

 

The suspects admitted to their involvement, claiming they misunderstood the situation as a fellow motorbike taxi driver was involved, and wanted to defend him, even acknowledging their excessive violence.

 

Police Lieutenant Colonel Arus expressed deep concern over the assault captured in the video, highlighting its damaging impact on Pattaya's image.

 

He urged locals not to resort to violence, stressing the importance of involving police in such incidents to preserve the city's appeal and economy. The investigation remains ongoing to apprehend the remaining attackers as the injured tourist pursues formal charges, reported Daily News.

 

 

-- 2025-03-25

 

 

4.06 in the morning is a very good time for substantial conversation.

Obviously the German could not convince his opponents.

To make a runner was the best solution then