British Man Dies After Footpath Altercation in Bangkok

richard_smith237 · March 26

1 hour ago, ozz1 said:

So sad for his family why did they pursue him on a motorbike ? not good look for Thai tourism unfortunately thais reputation for beating up farang is going viral

The story is incomplete - much more happened here...

What was he running from exactly ???... Are we really going to believe the information provided by the two witnesses who killed him ? - I know MalcomB does, but I mean normal people with balanced and critical thought.

richard_smith237 · March 26

18 hours ago, blaze master said:

18 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Yep, another case of a Brit starting a fight in Thailand and forgetting the Golden Rule.

If you want to start a fight, you better be able to actually fight.

Seems like a weekly occurrence here in Thailand since I have lived here, the Soi 6 bill dodgers, the guy who kicked the security guard in the nuts etc etc

Sounds like a great idea for a youtube channel. You could teach them how to be proper posh tw8ts.

Sounds like a great idea for a youtube channel. You could teach them how to be proper ~~posh~~ tw8ts.

Corrected it for you blaze...

richard_smith237 · March 26

18 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Yep, another case of a Brit starting a fight in Thailand and forgetting the Golden Rule.

If you want to start a fight, you better be able to actually fight.

Another fabrication - it looks like the Brit was running away from a fight...

Why were they chasing him ?

18 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Seems like a weekly occurrence here in Thailand since I have lived here, the Soi 6 bill dodgers, the guy who kicked the security guard in the nuts etc etc

Made up rubbish again - there was no evidence of the 'kick to the nuts'... nothing in the full CCTV coverage - you are just copying what the Thai thug said and stupidly taking it as fact.

richard_smith237 · March 26

17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

there is a 'segment of Brits' - but thats true of any nation... all have their utter idiots..

Some nations have a much higher segment than others.

Becasue 'some nations' are here in far greater numbers.

17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I recall you telling us of you having an altercation with Thais before. I suspect you may also be British?

A very poor attempt to troll... list these 'altercations' I've had, anything which led to physical violence...

I recall telling a story of how I complained to the Purser, when on a flight with my 4 year old son (who was sleeping on my lap), I wanted a beer (2nd beer of the flight) about 4 hours in, and the FA rudely told me to go and get my own.

.... You used that story good few times to accuse me of 'attacking flight attendants on a plane'...

You see Malky... you take a snippet of a story and contort it so far out of context to support your own vapid agenda you outwardly lie, you miss quote people, you quote partial information... Your posts are not in the interest of obtaining fact or understanding a story, but all with the singular goal of trolling, triggering argument and forcing this bizarre and highly delusional rhetoric that noThai's can do any wrong and whenever a foreigner reaches the media - its always their fault.

Your posts are the ultimate example of a manipulative toxic cockroach at work - you're a perfect case study of what a troll truly is - hats off, you play your part well.

richard_smith237 · March 26

15 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Did they heavily pad his bill which led to an altercation that he tried to escape ?

Yes of course it was the cheating Thais fault.The Englishman was behaving like a perfect gentleman and didn’t bring it upon himself three times.

At least you are consistent if very predictable.

You saw the question marks, right ??? (that was another three).

I'm asking questins because the story is odd, it seems incomplete...

The guys who say the 'guy' was running to the bar and they wouldn't let him in, are the same guys who chased him an ultimately killed him..

... Are you really going to believe anything they say ????

I don't think they killed him deliberately of course - the video shows that they tried to stop him... he tried to get away on their bike, they subdued him the fatality part looks accidental...

... But what were they doing chasing him in the first place ? - to help a foreigner in need ???

... They killed him, are you really going to believe the 'excuse' of who two guys who just killed someone ????

You're a complete fool if you do... but we know that you'll believe anything in print whatever the source, without question, without critical thought, without questioning what the facts really are ?

.... And why is that ?... because it all fits your highly idiotic and delusional bias that Thai's can do no wrong and foreigners are all bad.

Too many questions in this story - nothing adds up at all...

Thingamabob · March 26

2 hours ago, ozz1 said:

So sad for his family why did they pursue him on a motorbike ? not good look for Thai tourism unfortunately thais reputation for beating up farang is going viral

How do you feel about his behaviour ?

oldestswinger · March 26

The story is front page news on Daily Telegraph today. From the video, he seems to think that the Thais are offering him a ride on the bike.

black tabby12345 · March 26

On 3/25/2025 at 10:21 AM, hotsun said:

Guy just dropped dead. Now ive heard everything

Literary, Dropped Dead.

Seemingly demise of the drug overdose.

Gottfrid · March 26

2 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

It truly is UNREAL.

I never saw this 15-20 yrs ago to the extent it's visible today amongst falang in TH.

It's almost like their brains are malformed, or they were injected with something causing brain rot.

But not just Thailand.

Seen it in the States and Canada too.

Nah, in the old days and still 15-20 years ago erratic lunatics where locked up. Today we should have soo much understanding, that they need to roam free on the streets.

2 hours ago, ozz1 said:

So sad for his family why did they pursue him on a motorbike ? not good look for Thai tourism unfortunately thais reputation for beating up farang is going viral

Because it was not his motorbike. Neither was it his phone. The rest is just rubbish! Farang should stop come to Thailand and behave like idiots. Then they will not be beaten up. Very simple, isn´t it?

lordgrinz · March 26

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

Nah, in the old days and still 15-20 years ago erratic lunatics where locked up. Today we should have soo much understanding, that they need to roam free on the streets.

Because it was not his motorbike. Neither was it his phone. The rest is just rubbish! Farang should stop come to Thailand and behave like idiots. Then they will not be beaten up. Very simple, isn´t it?

Those coming here, are coming here to behave like idiots, that's the attraction.

Don Giovanni · March 26

This is tragic. Poor fella.

Don.

richard_smith237 · March 26

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

How do you feel about his behaviour ?

what did you see of ‘his behaviour’ ???

looked like he was running for his life… turns out for good reason….

Why was he running & what from ?

MalcolmB · March 26

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I recall telling a story of how I complained to the Purser, when on a flight with my 4 year old son (who was sleeping on my lap), I wanted a beer (2nd beer of the flight) about 4 hours in, and the FA rudely told me to go and get my own.

.... You used that story good few times to accuse me of 'attacking flight attendants on a plane'...

you are mixing me up with someone else.

I hadn’t heard that one before. Thanks for sharing.

Tropicalevo · March 26

2 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

On 3/25/2025 at 10:21 AM, hotsun said:

Guy just dropped dead. Now ive heard everything

Literary, Dropped Dead.

Seemingly demise of the drug overdose.

According to Khaosod today, the police have arrested the two bouncers for killing him.

They held him in a choke hold and he died.

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2025/03/26/two-thai-men-charged-with-assaulting-british-man-to-death/

MalcolmB · March 26

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

You see Malky... you take a snippet of a story and contort it so far out of context to support your own vapid agenda you outwardly lie, you miss quote people, you quote partial information..

No, I fact check them.

You are the one who makes up stories, it was a pitbull yesterday, turned out to be a Thai dog, a kick in the nuts that you are still denying etc etc.

You are right off.

And now another accusation that I said something about you attacking a flight attendant??????

Show me the link.

Put up or shut up. You are completely delusional.

BritScot · March 26

3 hours ago, sambum said:

"He's an idiot." He was an idiot - he's now dead.

It looks (and sounded like) he was running away from some kind of trouble (imagined or otherwise) but that's no excuse for his behaviour, and there were a few punches thrown by the big Thai guy trying to subdue him I guess.

My assumption is he was on drugs (yabba?) and had a severe attack of paranoia and just wanted to get away from his demons! Unfortunately, it ended up tragically for him.

Bitter and twisted! Time you took off your rose coloured glasses. Thai male's get off on beating up tourists and age or gender do not matter. Never one on one, they attack on mass. They do not stop when their victim is down and out, they stomp on their heads. Then there is always the child like excuses made up and the gullible idiots who believe them especially the rose coloured glasses brigade who can't face or accept how dangerous Thailand is and always has been. Wake up 75% of Thais hate you!

sambum · March 26

6 minutes ago, BritScot said:

Bitter and twisted! Time you took off your rose coloured glasses. Thai male's get off on beating up tourists and age or gender do not matter. Never one on one, they attack on mass. They do not stop when their victim is down and out, they stomp on their heads. Then there is always the child like excuses made up and the gullible idiots who believe them especially the rose coloured glasses brigade who can't face or accept how dangerous Thailand is and always has been. Wake up 75% of Thais hate you!

Hang on! "Bitter and twisted"? I never said I agreed with what the Thais did - and I quote:- " but that's no excuse for his behaviour, and there were a few punches thrown by the big Thai guy trying to subdue him I guess.

I make no excuses for the "normal" Thai pack mentality - in fact only today there was an instance of a German tourist being set on by 10 (Yes TEN) Thais! And I have seen MANY reports of "bouncers" setting on a punter "en masse" because of a disagreement about the bill, and I certainly do not condone such behaviour, so I do not need to take off my "rose tinted glasses"!

I was merely pointing out what seemed to be happening on the video, and the unfortunate guy who died was not "beaten to a pulp" by a pack of irate Thais or had his head "stomped on"!

richard_smith237 · March 26

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

No, I fact check them.

You are the one who makes up stories, it was a pitbull yesterday, turned out to be a Thai dog,

Nope - I didn't make that up - I questioned if it was a Pit Bull type dog and explained why is questioned that... making the statement:

[My very first thoughts... Pit Bull... but thats clearly due to the bias and media conditioning we've received over the years]

You were too stupid to understand that last comment which has now been highlighted for the 3rd time for you... yet you still accuse me of making up stories, when the comments are in fact open speculation and guess work.....

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

a kick in the nuts that you are still denying etc etc.

There is nothing on any of the CCTV footage which shows it.

The only mention of the 'kick to the nuts' is the quote from the Thug who lured an aging foreigner into an alley and knocked him out.... You of course believed the Thai thug's word as fact - no surprise there....

Show proof of the foreigner kicking the security guy in the nuts - there is none.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

You are right off.

And now another accusation that I said something about you attacking a flight attendant??????

Yep... you used that one a few times - a weak attempt to point score.

Just as you did accusing me of having 'altercations' which Thai's - just your made up accusations of the lying cockroach you are.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Show me the link.

Put up or shut up. You are completely delusional.

the delusion is all yours... an out right liar.

richard_smith237 · March 26

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

No, I fact check them.

Your idea of a 'fact check' is comical - its nothing more than looking at a Thai media source....

This is usually the same media source from which an English translation was made and contains the same gaps and informational mistakes...

You are an utter fool for considering in any way or form that any of these 'reports' are facts....

Far from it... they are 'news articles' that quote nearby people, who themselves are often guessing or incorrect, or in the case of this story, quote the 'two guys who ended up killing someone'.... and you take this as 'fact'... only a pure idiot is so stupid... and you wash rinse and repeated the same utter idiocy repeatedly in a state of pure delusional fantasy without any critical thought or even the most basic sense of intellectual balance.

Cameroni · March 26

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

looked like he was running for his life… turns out for good reason….

It did not look like he was running for his life to me.

Note when he slows down he sees the two bouncers on the motorbike and goes right towards them.

A man running for his life would have run away from them surely? Instead he goes to seek them out and tries to steal their scooter.

It seems much more likely he was on drugs and acting erratically.

I suspect he caused some offence or commotion in the karaoke bar and thus the bouncers followed him. He seemed to take whatever he wanted, phones, motorbikes, maybe he took something from the karaoke bar, who knows. Maybe he just annoyed people.

richard_smith237 · March 26

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It did not look like he was running for his life to me.

Note when he slows down he sees the two bouncers on the motorbike and goes right towards them.

A man running for his life would have run away from them surely? Instead he goes to seek them out and tries to steal their scooter.

It seems much more likely he was on drugs and acting erratically.

I suspect he caused some offence or commotion in the karaoke bar and thus the bouncers followed him. He seemed to take whatever he wanted, phones, motorbikes, maybe he took something from the karaoke bar, who knows. Maybe he just annoyed people.

Quite possible... the story states he was not permitted entry to the Karaoke Bar... thats the strange part for me... So why run in the first place ?.... was he escaping an earlier place where people were chasing him ?

As you also point out... The two guys have got off the motorcycle and he runs towards them, which is also odd if he is trying to 'escape' from them..... so maybe he was running away from others, or in a drugged up state, something imaginary.

A lot of this story doesn't add up and as you mentioned, that simply could be his 'reported' behavior is extremely odd due to substances consumed.

All we see in the CCTV is him running up to the bike and trying to get on it and ride it off and the guys stopping him and subduing him, sadly fatally so...

... He also appears to be screaming something which could be "they're trying to kill me, ahhhhh"...

It's all a rather odd story - but it needs far more serious investigation for sure - as whatever the 'witness' statements are, we really can't be taking any statement made by two guys who killed someone as fact.

I'd hope to see (or at least hope the family and investigators) get to see un-doctored toxicology results too.

MalcolmB · March 26

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

He also appears to be screaming something which could be "they're trying to kill me, ahhhhh"...

oh gawd, I am not sure if I can take much more of this.

Cameroni · March 26

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Quite possible... the story states he was not permitted entry to the Karaoke Bar... thats the strange part for me... So why run in the first place ?.... was he escaping an earlier place where people were chasing him ?

As you also point out... The two guys have got off the motorcycle and he runs towards them, which is also odd if he is trying to 'escape' from them..... so maybe he was running away from others, or in a drugged up state, something imaginary.

A lot of this story doesn't add up and as you mentioned, that simply could be his 'reported' behavior is extremely odd due to substances consumed.

All we see in the CCTV is him running up to the bike and trying to get on it and ride it off and the guys stopping him and subduing him, sadly fatally so...

... He also appears to be screaming something which could be "they're trying to kill me, ahhhhh"...

It's all a rather odd story - but it needs far more serious investigation for sure - as whatever the 'witness' statements are, we really can't be taking any statement made by two guys who killed someone as fact.

I'd hope to see (or at least hope the family and investigators) get to see un-doctored toxicology results too.

Maybe he ran because he had some unpleasant altercation verbal or physical outside the karaoke bar.

However, anyone who ever had a cannabis overdose knows that you are prone to see things, monsters, etc, it is terrifying. However, in that case, he would cower against a wall somewhere. As he was running so much it seems more of an amphetamine high.

So I guess what I am saying is that drug use could explain his running as well.

I totally agree the toxicology results will be of utmost importance.

MalcolmB · March 26

44 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Your idea of a 'fact check' is comical - its nothing more than looking at a Thai media source....

This is usually the same media source from which an English translation was made and contains the same gaps and informational mistakes...

You are an utter fool for considering in any way or form that any of these 'reports' are facts....

Far from it... they are 'news articles' that quote nearby people, who themselves are often guessing or incorrect, or in the case of this story, quote the 'two guys who ended up killing someone'.... and you take this as 'fact'... only a pure idiot is so stupid... and you wash rinse and repeated the same utter idiocy repeatedly in a state of pure delusional fantasy without any critical thought or even the most basic sense of intellectual balance.

Ok Richard, it was a pitbull as you say, not a Thai breed dog.

He was screaming out “Don’t kill me ahhhh”

He was wearing sunglasses which blinded him.

And you know highly influential Thai contacts that can get you and your friends off criminal charges.

From now on I won’t even bother reading the journalist reports, I will just go straight to your posts for your version of what happened.

MalcolmB · March 26

58 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

the delusion is all yours... an out right liar.

Show me the link.

It never happened.

MalcolmB · March 26

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I wanted a beer (2nd beer of the flight) about 4 hours in, and the FA rudely told me to go and get my own.

I have never heard this story.
There is always two sides to a story, I would love to hear hers.

I have never personally experienced or seen that happen on over 100 flights. Sounds like more pitbull to me.

MalcolmB · March 26

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Another fabrication - it looks like the Brit was running away from a fight..

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The two guys have got off the motorcycle and he runs towards them, which is also odd if he is trying to 'escape' from them

Are you arguing with yourself now?

tomacht8 · March 26

From Khao Sod:

According to witness statements and security footage, the British man, identified only as Nicholas, was seen running from Phibunsongkhram Bridge along Pracharat Sai 1 Road toward the 91 Karaoke establishment. When he attempted to enter the venue for unknown reasons, he was stopped by a 29-year-old bouncer named Boonchu.

This confrontation reportedly angered Nicholas, who shouted at the bouncer before backing away and continuing to yell as he headed toward Bang Pho intersection.

Shortly after, a second bouncer, 32-year-old Phurinat, emerged from the establishment and, together with Boonchu, followed Nicholas on a Yamaha Nuovo motorcycle...

It's common for people to get angry and verbally abusive when they're not allowed into a club. Professional bouncers take it easy, and the case is over when the people leave. But why did the two bouncers follow the victim? That's where the story starts to stink for me.

anchadian · March 26

Not sure if this has been posted.

One moment please.

anchadian · March 26

TWO THAI MEN CHARGED WITH ASSAULTING BRITISH MAN TO DEATH

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2025/03/26/two-thai-men-charged-

BANGKOK — Thai police have charged two nightclub security guards following the death of a 28-year-old British man in Bangkok after what appears to be a communication breakdown that escalated into a physical altercation.

The incident, which occurred around 2:05 AM on March 24, is under investigation by police officials including Police Lieutenant General Siam Boonsom, Commander of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, and other senior officers who have ordered a thorough examination of the circumstances

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