Poll -- Should Hegseth Resign or Be Fired?

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24 minutes ago, JAG said:

Personally what worries me (and I leave it to others to decide whether I am a leftist or socialist, I certainly don't identify as such) is the man in charge of the most powerful military in the world being a drunken incompetent buffoon capable of making such an obvious and egregious security breach - one which put the lives of those he is in charge of at even greater risk.

 

As for being a strong masculine war veteran, didn't he have to get his mum to say that he promised not to be a drunken tosser - sorry I meant reformed character - if he was confirmed?

 

Gloves off, he is a pretty buckshee junior reserve officer with a loose mouth who came to prominence on a weekend TV programme.

 

Now as to resignation or being sacked he will not go of course. He has lied vehemently and his boss has doubled down on those lies.

It's clear from your comment that you support the end of the capitalist system and a government takeover of the means of production to be followed by a transfer of the means of production to committees of workers. In other words, Marxism. 

[Yagoda]

Just now, JAG said:

Drunk: he has something of a track record...

What is that track record? DWIs, arrests, drunk on duty, how about over at Fox News, drunk all the time?

 

How about this. You are shouting a lie.

 

2 minutes ago, JAG said:

ncompetent, responsible for the alleged security breach: he is the Secretary for Defence, and was actively engaging in discussing classified plans for a forthcoming operation on an unclassified messaging app!

 

Show us what was classified. Show us anyhting that shows using Signal was unusual in prior admins.

 

As to the rest, you seem pretty defensive. about your constant spew of propaganda.

[James65]

25 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So you dont know. Got it. Who is "dear leader" btw?

 

When anyone in the government started using signal is irrelevant.    Anyone who used it to send sensitive information should be fired and then prosecuted.

[impulse]

Did the knobs whose incompetence caused 13 service deaths under Biden get fired?

 

Didn't think so.

 

 

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, James65 said:

 

When anyone in the government started using signal is irrelevant.    Anyone who used it to send sensitive information should be fired and then prosecuted.

Got it. That includes the Biden gang.

 

Much ado About Nothing

[Dan O]

38 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What if the so called journalist hacked in? Or was let in by one of his fellow anti trumpers. 

 

When did Signal start being used by the US government.?

Hahahaha nice try. He was invited in to discussion in error and no one on the email chain disputes that fact. It has nothing to do with "anti-trumpers" its because, someone was stupid and wasn't being careful and they were using an unauthorized service to discuss strike plans. They should all be fired. 

[WorriedNoodle]

Just now, impulse said:

Did the knobs that caused 13 service deaths under Biden get fired?

Every cock up by the current administration always includes a reference to Biden. Trumpeting deflections all day long.

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, Artisi said:

Clueless and stupid is only just sufficient to describe this useless poster. 

I think my statement was accurate so maybe its you then that has no purpose and is stupid if you cant comprehend 2 significant points in a simple point. Where my words to big? I will give you a participation medal for at least trying as you probably expect that.

[James65]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

Did the knobs whose incompetence caused 13 service deaths under Biden get fired?

 

Didn't think so.

 

Of course they should have.  Same as Pete.  Anyone who breaks basic codes of conduct should be fired regardless of party.

[James65]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. That includes the Biden gang.

 

Much ado About Nothing

Sure, if somebody in sleepy joe's adim used signal they should have been fired too.  

 

I thought Trump was going to change things and hire competent people?  What happened?

[jerrymahoney]

12 minutes ago, James65 said:

I thought Trump was going to change things and hire competent people?  What happened?

Maybe all the competent people said: Thanks for the offer. We'll get back to ya.

[impulse]

18 minutes ago, James65 said:

Of course they should have.  Same as Pete.  Anyone who breaks basic codes of conduct should be fired regardless of party.

 

I don't disagree.  My point is, where were all the lefty, MSM and Dem scalp hunters when stuff like this happened under Biden?  It was like crickets (with Biden looking at his watch).  They excused, minimized and covered up, all the way to his inability to form coherent sentences.

 

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

I don't disagree.  My point is, where were all the lefty, MSM and Dem scalp hunters when stuff like this happened under Biden?  It was like crickets (with Biden looking at his watch).  They excused, minimized and covered up, all the way to his inability to form coherent sentences.

 

Your point is 'but but but'.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Maybe all the competent people said: Thanks for the offer. We'll get back to ya.

They dont want to be persecuted in NY

[StandardIssue]

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No, neither, he should continue to do the excellent job he is doing.

 

He was not responsible for the Singal Messenger mishap in the slightest.

 

He's very good as the lead in the clown circus. If you look closely he's the one driving the clown car that goes up in flames as the finale!

 

Of course he's responsible for the lead in the Signal mishap. He's the ferkin' US Nation SECURITY advisor for cry'n out loud! He's the guy that should be spearing heading security measures in all facets including COMMUNICATION security. He's just another of Trumps mopes and a total failure. With all due respect how anyone can say he's doing a good job so far is laughable and based on no evidence.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Your point is 'but but but'.

 

No.  My point is that about 90% of the Trump coverage in the MSM is negative.  It has been since 2015. 

 

Meanwhile, we had a drooling fool (with a poor memory) in the White House that the MSM was proposing for Mt Rushmore.

 

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

No.  My point is that about 90% of the Trump coverage in the MSM is negative.  It has been since 2015. 

 

Meanwhile, we had a drooling fool (with a poor memory) in the White House that the MSM was proposing for Mt Rushmore.

 

But but but. But the media, but biden.

Anything on signal gate?

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

 

He's very good as the lead in the clown circus. If you look closely he's the one driving the clown car that goes up in flames as the finale!

 

Of course he's responsible for the lead in the Signal mishap. He's the ferkin' US Nation SECURITY advisor for cry'n out loud! He's the guy that should be spearing heading security measures in all facets including COMMUNICATION security. He's just another of Trumps mopes and a total failure. With all due respect how anyone can say he's doing a good job so far is laughable and based on no evidence.

He is responsible for the ministry of defence. Sorry, defense in his case.

[jerrymahoney]

I will guess this may be the long-term fallout here:

 

A hard copy acknowledgement that there is an on-the-ground asset close enough to observe the (late) High level Houthi guy or otherwise be informed of his whereabouts.

[bunnydrops]

45 minutes ago, impulse said:

Did the knobs whose incompetence caused 13 service deaths under Biden get fired?

 

Didn't think so.

 

 

You did it first! No, I didn't! Yes, you did! No, I didn't! Really? Or is it you did it so we can too? What happened to "two wrongs don't make a right?"

[howlee101]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The poll questions speak for themselves.

Seriously?  Most members on this forum are left or far left.  <removed> is real 🤣

[Cameroni]

46 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

 

He's very good as the lead in the clown circus. If you look closely he's the one driving the clown car that goes up in flames as the finale!

 

Of course he's responsible for the lead in the Signal mishap. He's the ferkin' US Nation SECURITY advisor for cry'n out loud! He's the guy that should be spearing heading security measures in all facets including COMMUNICATION security. He's just another of Trumps mopes and a total failure. With all due respect how anyone can say he's doing a good job so far is laughable and based on no evidence.

 

No, he is not responsible for the Signal mishap. Hegseth is NOT "security advisor", he is the Secretary of Defence. In that role he oversees the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Coast Guard. Not Tik Tok, Telegram, Signal and Snapchat.

 

Ok?

 

Now has he been doing a good job? Let us see, he culled all the books on transgender ideology in the armed forces, and he stopped recruitment of transgender people, which as you will recall previously resulted in the recruitment of traitors. So that is a good thing.

 

He also opposed Ukraine accesion to NATO and admonished Ukraine that retaining its current borders is unrealistic. Thus he greatly helped in achieving the peace process we now see unfolding. Again, good work Hegseth.

 

He also started operations to ensure the US has secure and permanent access to the Panama canal. Pretty good for the US.

 

Hegseth is too pro Israel for my taste, but then that is what you would expect of any American official these days, especially under Trump. Israel lobby and all that.

[Cameroni]

11 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Goodness. A turnip would know one does not discuss weapons and issue launch order via a commercial app. Lucky it was Goldberg on the chat, as someone else might have published it real time, alerting Iran. F-18s could have been shot down and their pilots lost.

 

None of what you suggesst happened. In fact the operation went ahead exactly as planned and was a resounding success. So de facto nothing was put at risk, as nothing happened.

 

Using a commercial app is the world we live in, just ask Hilary Clinton who used it for sensitive information. 

[Cameroni]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

That he didn't treat this information as classified is just further proof of his incompetence.

 

“These are indeed highly detailed operational plans for war,” said one of the former officials, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity. “Twenty-five years, I have never known them not to be classified. And usually this operational level of detail is further restricted to those with a need-to-know.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/03/28/signal-leak-hegseth-espionage-classified/

 

More proof that it should have been classified:

Israel complains about SignalGate leak after giving US key intelligence used in Houthi strike: report

https://nypost.com/2025/03/27/us-news/israel-complains-about-signalgate-leak-after-giving-us-key-intelligence-used-in-houthi-strike-report/

 

Of course they were not highly detailed operational plans for war that were disclosed, all the details were missing.

 

Israel is upset because their source was put in danger by the PUBLICATION which Goldberg later made in the Atlantic. Had he acted responsibly and not published this then Israel's source would not have been put at risk. It is a clear case for looking at the actions of Goldberg.

[HappyExpat57]

13 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

For what? He did not do anything "heinous".

 

The Signal chat was not organised by him, ergo it was not his faux pas.

You've obviously never been in the US military or you're trolling.

[spidermike007]

He should either resign or be fired. In many nations he would be facing a firing squad for this incredible betrayal of National Security. I would imagine the soldiers and pilots are quite upset with him and my guess is that he never had any confidence of the military. Now he has even less, the man is a silly caricature, a drunkard, a morally bankrupt soul and he does not and has never had the ability to lead an organization of millions, much less even 100 people.

 

Is a very typical bottom of the barrel pick, and Trump selected him for his fealty, obedience, and his telegenic qualities, and certainly not for his experience or wisdom. 

[stevenl]

34 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

Seriously?  Most members on this forum are left or far left.  <removed> is real 🤣

Please define left and far left.

[jerrymahoney]

43 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Israel is upset because their source was put in danger by the PUBLICATION which Goldberg later made in the Atlantic. Had he acted responsibly and not published this then Israel's source would not have been put at risk. It is a clear case for looking at the actions of Goldberg.

On the flip side, Israel may be thanking Goldberg because -- without his release -- they wouldn't know for sure how sloppy the current A-Team is when provided with their gathered intelligence.

[James65]

 

 

52 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Israel is upset because their source was put in danger by the PUBLICATION which Goldberg later made in the Atlantic. Had he acted responsibly and not published this then Israel's source would not have been put at risk. It is a clear case for looking at the actions of Goldberg.

 

Before Goldberg published the chat, Pete and Trump repeatedly said there was nothing classified or sensitive in any of the communications on Signal.  Are you saying they were lying?

 

Goldberg didn't publish the name of the source btw.  Goldberg withheld the source because the CIA asked him to--even though Trump said it wasn't a secret.

[Cameroni]

6 minutes ago, James65 said:

Goldberg didn't publish the name of the source btw.  Goldberg withheld the source because the CIA asked him to--even though Trump said it wasn't a secret.

 

The name did not appear in the chat so Goldberg could not have published it. He published that there was acess to a "top missile guy" however so the Houthis could make enquiries internally ,since presumably they have a limited number of "top missile guys".

 

Whether or not this is classified information only Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are in a position to determine. A hundred mainstream media journalists can run off their mouths that they think it was, it matters not one banana.