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24 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Forum has just set a new low.

Packers sons birthday party went over budget by about £1 per head and he refused to pay it. 
and he was cheered on by five others.

i spend about triple that just on myself on an average night out. 
Luckily they were drinking water at this event.

 

It never ceases to amaze me how some people can condense their entire essence of being a hopeless, brainless waste of oxygen into just one pathetic comment and so consistently out themselves as complete and utter......    

20 minutes ago, Celsius said:

no kids is the best policy 

 

I don't know. It's complicated. You wish you had none, but you're happy you have them and wouldn't not to want to have them.

 

I think people who don't have kids miss out. 

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

It never ceases to amaze me how some people can condense their entire essence of being a hopeless, brainless waste of oxygen into just one pathetic sentence and so consistently out themselves as complete and utter......    

Can you let us in on which one sentence you were referring to?

 

That you would be pro farang anti Thai on this topic also, at least you are consistent.

26 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Forum has just set a new low.

Packers sons birthday party went over budget by about £1 per head and he refused to pay it. 
and he was cheered on by five others.

i spend about triple that just on myself on an average night out. 
Luckily they were drinking water at this event.
 

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5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Can you let us in on which one sentence you were referring to?

 

That you would be pro farang anti Thai on this topic also, at least you are consistent.

 

All of it perfectly exemplifies what a wombat you are.

 

... and then you shoehorn in the 'pro/anti Thai-farang' accusation when this is about someone being an odious cretin... something you again exemplify with outstanding consistency and perfection.

1 hour ago, 2long said:

It's not just 'make the farang pay.'

A lot of Thais in situations like this know who invited the group and that person is expected to pay. Japanese, on the other hand, are the complete opposite.

In fact, here in Thailand, sometimes it's seen as causing loss of face when trying to discuss who's paying or trying to chip in

Yes, there are always people who 'know that so&so is paying so they load up on ordering and may invite others.

There is a big culture difference between what we expect and what the locals expect, and do.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but you should have paid for the whole bill, as was expected of you. And maybe managed the situation at the time by clearing it with her about 'who's in charge.'

There's no mention of whether or not your wife was there to help.

 

Good points.

 

Personally, I have never been in this situation of having to foot the bill without having consented to it beforehand. Contrary to what I have often read on this forum, freeloading is not, in my experience, something Thais will typically do and they will more often have a tendency to be "greng jai", i.e. feel embarrassed/awkward in the situation the OP described.

 

But this woman's attitude definitely was out of order and I understand where the OP is coming from (though I have long stopped being confrontational in Thailand myself – In my opinion, there are more effective ways to deal with such situations privately, with no loss of face involved for anyone).

5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

freeloading is not, in my experience, something Thais will typically do

 

Definitely not the girls. I've never been asked for money for free.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Forum has just set a new low.

Packers sons birthday party went over budget by about £1 per head and he refused to pay it. 
and he was cheered on by five others.

i spend about triple that just on myself on an average night out. 
Luckily they were drinking water at this event.
 

Considering you seem to be using different numbers in each post on this thread, I don't think you'd know how much you spend yourself.

Maybe it's because you're talking about pounds all the time rather than the currency we use every day here.

2 minutes ago, alien365 said:

Maybe it's because you're talking about pounds all the time rather than the currency we use every day here.

 

Or maybe it's because he's a well known troll, who is just here to upset people?

3 hours ago, dcalaska said:

You did the right thing. I have been in similar situations with a Thai GF. Thinking it would be just the two of us, but nooo, friends, brothers, sisters show up and expect the farang to pay all. I made sure there were separate checks and gladly paid for my GF and myself. The others had to cover for themselves. 

I don't care one bit about what they thought about me. There's no free lunch. 

I thought in Thai culture, you gain a lot of face from being able to pay for everyone and you should feel good about being able to do it. 

 

When the family pop round, I don't mind being the head of the table and pay it all, every now and again, but in general they understand the bill will be split.

20 minutes ago, alien365 said:

I thought in Thai culture, you gain a lot of face from being able to pay for everyone and you should feel good about being able to do it. 

 

That's exactly it. I politely let the loudmouth busybody get face by paying for all the stuff she made everybody order. 🙂 Greng Jai. 🙂 

6 minutes ago, Packer said:

 

That's exactly it. I politely let the loudmouth busybody get face by paying for all the stuff she made everybody order. 🙂 Greng Jai. 🙂 

It sounds like she wanted to take the credit for the party while you pay for it. If the kids ordered extra I'd pay for it, but based on what you described I'd have done something similar to you. I can't say what exactly as I've not had that happen to me yet.

58 minutes ago, alien365 said:

Considering you seem to be using different numbers in each post on this thread, I don't think you'd know how much you spend yourself.

Maybe it's because you're talking about pounds all the time rather than the currency we use every day here.

 

He's probably trying to type on his phone and drink drive at the same time.....

49 minutes ago, Packer said:

 

That's exactly it. I politely let the loudmouth busybody get face by paying for all the stuff she made everybody order. 🙂 Greng Jai. 🙂 

 

I see what you did there 

10 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

She got the "It's OK, have farang pay" boomerang right back in her face, nicely done.

 

I had that sprung on me once, the casual offer to meet my friend at KFC saw a horde of her family cling-ons descend across two tables and order mega buckets. I went and paid the bill for me and my squeeze, and bid them farewell as I had an 'early' appointment (I didn't).  I didn't stick around to see the shock and horror that my khi-niaow farang moment precipitated.

9 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Stupid comment, not appreciated. Kids are sensitive.

I've put you on ignore.

You said the same thing about me ,BUT continue to reply to every thread ,you love me ,you know that .

9 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

'tight', 'stingy', 'not good'... You're surprised about that?

 

Do you know as a fact who paid the 900Baht balance - the cost of the sundaes?

 

- was it the loud mouth woman - did she pay the whole 1,700Baht?

 

- Or did all the kids pay for their own sundaes, in total 900Baht? 

Does it really matter? He paid what he ordered.. And for all we know this Op was his April fools joke on AN members. 

9 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

Or maybe it's because he's a well known troll, who is just here to upset people?

Crying over an ice cream?
If you invite people to a birthday party do you restrict everyone to one piece of cake and a glass of water also? 
if anything the OP is a troll. Could anyone really be that shameless?

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

I had that sprung on me once, the casual offer to meet my friend at KFC saw a horde of her family cling-ons descend across two tables and order mega buckets. I went and paid the bill for me and my squeeze, and bid them farewell as I had an 'early' appointment (I didn't).  I didn't stick around to see the shock and horror that my khi-niaow farang moment precipitated.

Big hole in that story.

At KFC you line up and order before the food comes, they don’t bring a bill.

About as factual as this swenswens April fools story that did bring out the kii niaow farangs of this forum. 
 

Good try

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

He's probably trying to type on his phone and drink drive at the same time.....

You have been sucked in Richard.

April Fools joke.

Exposed a few. 

20 hours ago, Packer said:

It's now going round on group chat's that my son's father is tight and stingy and not good. 

 

Thailand. 

Maybe Thailand is not for you. 

How did my Ex-Mother In-law end up at your son's birthday party?

10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

All of it perfectly exemplifies what a wombat you are.

Hmm a barely believable story designed to make Thais look bad to bring out the ranters.

 

You have been Bobbed/Donned/Roberted again Richard.

 

Hook line and sinker

You did the right thing. She was trying to take advantage of you in a very disrespectful way.

 

Just one point, though. When she started to order extras, I would have told her that I was only paying for the cake.

If someone takes the trouble to report what happened to them we should assume that the person is telling the truth and not call him a liar just because we don't like the story for some reason. Not everyone is a politician, lawyer, criminal, or drug cartel member.

Its Thailand. You throw the party, you pay for the party. Sure buy another bottle for Uncle, uggggg.

11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

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This is your most sensible post ever.

12 hours ago, Packer said:

 

Maybe your son is nosey and delicate? Gets overly emotional, like a little girl? Has he changed his pronoun already? 🙂 

Wow.

Maybe you can't afford $50 once a year for his birthday, but I am guessing you probably can.

So why not be the bigger person and pay the whole bill to keep your son happy?

Sounds like the lady was an annoying old hen and I understand your desire to stick it to her, even still ...

Birthday is once a year, what will your son remember, a fun party or a drama over the bill?

I guess it's "the principle of the thing".

17 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Wow.

Maybe you can't afford $50 once a year for his birthday, but I am guessing you probably can.

So why not be the bigger person and pay the whole bill to keep your son happy?

Sounds like the lady was an annoying old hen and I understand your desire to stick it to her, even still ...

Birthday is once a year, what will your son remember, a fun party or a drama over the bill?

I guess it's "the principle of the thing".

Wow.

 

I'd suspect his son will remember a bossy mum that was trying to ram things down his throat that he does not want.

 

I would not dream of going to an arranged party and then taking over what had been arranged, would you?