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PETITION to Urge Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to immediately ban COVID vaccines and investigate


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Posted
Just now, Red Phoenix said:

I am not going to spend my sunday afternoon looking for more examples of their biased fact-checking. 

Especially since it is obvious from your response that it will be brushed under the table as the odd exception (it is not). 

But the one example I provided is a blatant, easily verificable and deliberate LIE which they presented as a Fact-check. 

I remember that one very well because in threads on the Forum at the time, whenever I correctly stated that the covid-19 vaccines were experimental, my posts were either deleted or dismissed as 'conspiracy nonsense' using the Reuters Fact-check as proof. 

I always look at the truth of any subject. It has nothing to do with my opinion, so I don't make any. Remember I did say that humans are employed by all news agencies, and humans are many times opinionated. What I did say, was that Reuters and AP are the most unbiased of agencies, which they have proven to be. No comparison to the many opinions made by all reporters of all other agencies.

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5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

More anti-vax nonsense from the OP poster here, not surprisingly:

 

From the OP:

 

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From the HHS VAERS website:

Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data

Evaluating VAERS Data

 

"When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event."  [emphasis added]

 

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

 

Two sides, who's is right? I'm thinking this one is more fact based and not guesses..........https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8875435/

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We should have listened to the great medical expert Donald  J Trump, bleach was the way to go,

just flush your insides out and your good to go , My wife and I have had 4 injections each and

have suffered no symptoms ,we both have had Covid ,twice but the symptoms were so mild the

first time only by testing did we find out. Why so many Americans have had reactions to the vaccines

who knows ? 

 

regards Worgeordie

Posted
43 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

VAERS is NOT meant as a tool to determine the causes of any adverse events following vaccination.

It is meant to work as a 'signal-provider' to investigate the underlying causes when there are spikes in adverse effects reports after vaccination.

+1,6 million reports since the roll-out of the Covid-19 vaccines (more than all other reports on vaccine adverse effects over all the years combined), and there is nothing to see here?

And knowing that studies indicate that VAERS-reports are only the tip of the iceberg, and that more than 90% of adverse effects following vaccination are NOT being reported. 

Assumptions aren't evidence. No one knows what percentage of adverse effects aren't being reported. No one knows how many deaths have come only from the vaccines themselves, and not underlying conditions some already had. Yes, vaccines do have side effects but the amount of lives saved overrides the few deaths that actually came from the vaccine itself. 

 

We all know that you are anti vax. What you aren't understanding is that fear mongering isn't going to help anyone here. Most of us here are probably vaccinated, which means we can't do anything about it now. Like another said, I've had 4 and haven't seen anything out of the ordinary, especially adverse, to any of the 4 I received. I didn't want to be a victim of Covid, had it at least twice and might have never needed the vaccine, but who knows? Maybe the vaccine helped me suffer less than if I didn't have one. 

 

The people here that aren't vaccinated, probably are going to stay that way, as Covid has been all over the world, and if they were going to get really sick, would have already. It has saved many from death, and maybe many more than anyone realizes, or not. The people here that are vaccinated, from what we've heard, haven't suffered any adverse effects, yet will probably not get another vaccine because we are still here, and either we didn't need one, or it helped us, and we developed immunity with the vaccine and our own body chemistry.

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2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Haha, yeah right, same as the BBC... but since the internet you can now seek out and hear what the other side to a story, so their control of the narrative is lost. AP is garbage. As is most MSM. Its the old timers like you guys here that believe it still. Its been exposed by the constant lies around Trump, its no longer trusted,  look at Ukraine, 3 years you've been told Russia was losing, now you cannot comprehend the fact its actually  Ukraine that lost.

Politico ran with the Totally fabricated story that there was a rift between Trump s Musk and that Musk was leaving doge...it was copied by many others world wide even though it was total BS.

 

Have to believe something, or are they all liars? One that's proven itself to be unbiased on most things is a lot better source then one who's definitely leaning to one side. Old timers aren't stupid. In fact,we've seen more than the younger has, through history, and are more likely better at separating fact from fiction then the younger, more naive crowd. Are you in the Ukraine or Russia, and seeing this firsthand? No? Then you're also going by others opinions, and some might be lies.

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2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Oh dear...

First - Trump is NOT a medical expert and never claimed to be one. 

Second - Trump NEVER said that people should inject bleach to kill the virus. 

                 His words and context were deliberately twisted into that fake nonsense claim.

Third - It was actually Biden who stated that he former president once told people to "inject a little bleach in your arm; it'd be all right."

             Biden used that false claim, as a cheap shot at his opponent. 

 

I don't trust fact-checkers, but credit where credit is due and the Snopes Fact-Check provides the full story in all its details. 

Fact Check: Trump Didn't Advise People to 'Inject Bleach' to Treat COVID-19. But This Is What He Did Say

Link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-trump-didnt-advise-233300994.html

First, Trump isn't an expert in anything, yet claims he knows all about things, like Covid when it first arrived. His own words. If you listen to the actual video, which was posted, you'll see exactly what he said. Bleach, disinfectant, does it matter?

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8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Have to believe something, or are they all liars? One that's proven itself to be unbiased on most things is a lot better source then one who's definitely leaning to one side. Old timers aren't stupid. In fact,we've seen more than the younger has, through history, and are more likely better at separating fact from fiction then the younger, more naive crowd. Are you in the Ukraine or Russia, and seeing this firsthand? No? Then you're also going by others opinions, and some might be lies.

Judging by the hysterical Trump posts i'd say old timers are not better at separating fact from fiction at all.

No, I am in neither Ukraine or Russia, but the news I follow was correct.. You knew nothing of the minerals that were to be had and when its brought to light that Ukraine was not winning none of you could process it.

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25 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Haha, yeah right, same as the BBC... but since the internet you can now seek out and hear what the other side to a story, so their control of the narrative is lost. AP is garbage. As is most MSM. Its the old timers like you guys here that believe it still. Its been exposed by the constant lies around Trump, its no longer trusted,  look at Ukraine, 3 years you've been told Russia was losing, now you cannot comprehend the fact its actually  Ukraine that lost.

Politico ran with the Totally fabricated story that there was a rift between Trump s Musk and that Musk was leaving doge...it was copied by many others world wide even though it was total BS.

 

Trust Igor to insert Ukraine (bad) and Russia (good) into a story about something completely different.

But hey, that's what he's paid to do.

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6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Judging by the hysterical Trump posts i'd say old timers are not better at separating fact from fiction at all.

No, I am in neither Ukraine or Russia, but the news I follow was correct.. You knew nothing of the minerals that were to be had and when its brought to light that Ukraine was not winning none of you could process it.

Another one who assumes others don't know things. Let me straighten you out on this. Everything that you know is possibly known by anyone on earth, besides tribes without any internet. Anyone can research the lies, opinions and facts that are available. How do you know the news you follow is correct and what others follow is wrong? You don't, period. You'd say old timers are no better at separating facts from fiction and that's your opinions, which means nothing. The Ukraine did very well against a larger force, especially seeing Korea was also helping, a fact that Russia was losing a lot in the war and had to receive help, much like Ukraine did from the US. What happens now depends on what the US does as far as negotiations with both sides. All war involves money, land or products, and greed pushes many insane leaders.

Posted
Just now, Red Phoenix said:

Multiple studies have been conducted, and they consistently indicate that +90% of adverse effects following vaccination, are NOT reported in VAERS. 

Some of the  reasons for this are not being aware of VAERS's existence, the huge administrative burden to file a report, etc.

 

It is not and never has been my intention to monger fear in those that have chosen to get the shots.

And it is not true that 'nothing can be done about it' once you have been vaccinated and are suffering side-effects.

But first you need to consider the possibility that the shots are slowly but steadily wrecking havoc in your body (think the worldwide explosion of agressive cancers), and that even when you do not experience any negative effects now, that all is not fine. 

As long as you are in denial of that possibility, you will not even consider that the symptoms you are experiencing are caused by the shots, and go for symptom-treatment treatments that will not address the root-cause.

Know that there are many effective vax-detox protocols available, that can slow down, stop and sometimes even completely reverse the harm the shots are doing, and will continue doing (the spike-protein in the mRNA shots does not have an OFF switch). 

So obviously the sooner you start with this, the better. 

 

It is well-known that it can take more that 10 years before 'unexpected' effects of vaccines will finally manifest themselves. 

And there are many AN members that have suffered adverse effects as a result of the shots, and several have even provided testimonies to that in the threads on Covid-vaccines. 

The evidence at this point of time is so monumental, that it needs URGENT investigation and that in mean time the further roll-out of these poison-shots should be halted (hence the PETITION urging RFK jr to do exactly that).

If 90% aren't reported, that means they might not exist. I meant nothing can be done about the fact we received shots. If there are any consequences, we might be able to offset them, which means IF. Some might have long term after effects yes, but that has yet to be proven. I'm not in denial of anything, as I take very good care of myself and don't want anything happening I can't nip in the bud. I don't have any symptoms  now. If I know there is any harm being done, I will take steps to try and reverse it. I haven't heard of any AN members that have said they are having long term effects from the shots. Just mild short term ones.

Posted
12 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

It is blatantly obvious , the horrible condition of peoples' health ( most evident in the good ole usa) .......  and yet many ignorant and even some bright people still keep downing and shooting those drugs !   So many are pure poison,  but there is basically no self control/ discipline in todays society ..... where immediate gratification  has defeated critical thinking and a choice other than to follow the herd.

 

Basically the only healthy people i know ( and a few.... guess who..... that bother to post here and face the stupid trolling )  , are  the ones  that did not take the

dRNA  shot.    Just as an aside.. the Amish are extremely healthy and basically no autism .  

 

SM ... PR.....RS .....  be happy with your health,  as i am .  I do not think anything we say is going to affect the AN choir .    

Many dyes are responsible for the rise in autism, along with some of the American diet which isn't healthy yet followed by millions. Obese parents, pesticides, and diabetes are some of the precursors. Better understanding and screening has uncovered more cases than before also. Bad health isn't just in the US. It's most everywhere. especially in SE Asia, where they've adopted many western eating styles. I know many who have taken the shots, and boosters, including myself, who are still as healthy as ever. If things change in the future, and can be traced back to the vaccines, then we will know more. The longest living people are in the blue zones, mainly because of their diet.Their vaccine rates exceed 70%.

Posted
1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

I always look at the truth of any subject. It has nothing to do with my opinion,

 

should read ," I always look FOR the truth of any subject " .   

 

 

 

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Many dyes are responsible for the rise in autism, along with some of the American diet which isn't healthy yet followed by millions. Obese parents, pesticides, and diabetes are some of the precursors.

 

You definitely have a very bad case of  ABTV !   (anything but the vaccine)

 

thank you.   you have made the marketing team very happy , knowing that the talk of dyes as distracted you from the biggest elephant in the room

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Mark Nothing said:

Imagine the power of reversing what they did to us?

 

Instead of fake experts scaring us with comical theories of fear leading to disease and absurd "treatments", we found the truth backed by a higher authority and infused ourselves with health.  I am suggesting moving from the physical plane to the invisible realm of thoughts, 

 

Once you do this you realize the human being is more then just a physical body and you can supercharge your immune system with positive thoughts and prayers that profoundly affects health.

 

Essentially vaccinating your body from fear rendering the nonsense obsolete.

 

 

 

What is your name ?   "My name is nobody "   lol

 

I am a fan of Mind over Matter .    (especially usefull for those with bad companions)

Posted
17 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

You definitely have a very bad case of  ABTV !   (anything but the vaccine)

 

thank you.   you have made the marketing team very happy , knowing that the talk of dyes as distracted you from the biggest elephant in the room

You mentioned autism, I told about why it's happening more. When there's proof then we'll see what the vaccines have done. Conjecture doesn't work. This is just a discussion, and the marketing team isn't aware of us, nor cares.

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The only thing I have against people who do their own research is: 

1. They never interview any scientists or researchers themselves

2. They do tend to use absolutely unknown sources who haven't qualified as real scientists

3. Many of the accusations come from people not qualified to accuse anyone if anything. No virologists, disease experts. 

4. None have visited China to see for themselves who created the covid virus 

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

IMO, no vaccine has EVER saved ONE life, ANYWHERE in the world.

 

They are simply fraudulent money spinners for Big Pharma and their white-coat, compromised, pimps.

 

American kids get 80 vaxxes before they reach teens. C'mon man; can't you see the truth?

Your opinion is dangerous.Go back to your home and study the science.

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