PETITION to Urge Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to immediately ban COVID vaccines and investigate

[fredwiggy]

10 hours ago, johng said:

He hasn't banned any vaccines  at all ...yet    and why are they necessary ?  how did the human race survive for thousands of years before them if they were necessary, we all should be long gone from this planet by now..no ?   no.

Humans aren't all susceptible to all diseases, as Covid proved. Some need them, some don't. Some decided they didn't need them, and aren't with us anymore, along with the countless that were given vaccines and warded off many diseases through time.

[fredwiggy]

10 hours ago, johng said:

Yes injecting an emergency use concoction  for which the maker has no liability and tested on 8 mice

is certainly the way  to protect children,  who by the way had a minuscule risk from the "virus"

If you're referring to the Covid vaccines, you might understand that most of the people who died from Covid were unvaccinated. Many never needed a vaccine and took them, because they were afraid of this new disease that was killing so many. Yes, many didn't need it, but who knew?

[rattlesnake]

15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, many didn't need it, but who knew?

 

I did, and I was banned from this forum 7 times for saying it, as were several other "conspiracy theorists".

[rattlesnake]

19 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

most of the people who died from Covid were unvaccinated.

They died with Covid because they were unhealthy.

[Jim Blue]

On 4/6/2025 at 7:45 PM, atpeace said:

Interesing post but you are cherry picking.  I aggree the polio vaccine had a dramatic possitive impact. Not so sure about Covid vacines.  It was rolled out during a period of chaos and I serriously doubt almost all Covid data on both sides.

In  the 1950 's a computer filled your lounge.I Is it beyond your imagination to see that a couple of smart techs can test + 1000 times in micro seconds what  used to take  years ?

[fredwiggy]

11 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

They died with Covid because they were unhealthy.

Meaning Covid put them over the edge, and a vaccine could have saved them. Hard to tell, as even I don't know whether I needed them or not. I had Covid at least twice, with mild symptoms. Would I have had more serious symptoms without the vaccine or the same? Impossible to know now.

[Red Phoenix]

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

13 hours ago, johng said:

Yes injecting an emergency use concoction  for which the maker has no liability and tested on 8 mice

is certainly the way  to protect children,  who by the way had a minuscule risk from the "virus"

Vaccines aren't for emergency use but to prevent a disease from hurting or killing people.Some seem to doubt the facts they've saved millions of lives, but some don't understand history either.

Johng was of course fully correct in what he wrote. 

The covid-19 'vaccines'  (which are actually gen-therapies) were fast-track approved for emergency use by the FDA under an EUA (emergency use authorization).

Remember that early May 2023 the Covid-19 pandemic was declared 'over' by the WHO.  But the CDC keeps on recommending COVID-19 Vaccines for Young Children 6 Months-5 Years.

So where is the 'emergency' to STILL inject infants with that experimental poison? 

 

"Saved millions of lives" > a sick joke that is getting more and more backlash now that the longer-term effects of the shots are wrecking havoc and cannot be denied anymore (think the explosion of rapidly emerging cancers in all age-categories). 

[Red Phoenix]

3 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

most of the people who died from Covid were unvaccinated.

They died with Covid because they were unhealthy.

... not to mention the double-whammy of

- denying them treatment with proven life-saving remedies, and

- deadly hospital protocols for those that were hospitalized.

[fredwiggy]

12 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Johng was of course fully correct in what he wrote. 

The covid-19 'vaccines'  (which are actually gen-therapies) were fast-track approved for emergency use by the FDA under an EUA (emergency use authorization).

Remember that early May 2023 the Covid-19 pandemic was declared 'over' by the WHO.  But the CDC keeps on recommending COVID-19 Vaccines for Young Children 6 Months-5 Years.

So where is the 'emergency' to STILL inject infants with that experimental poison? 

 

"Saved millions of lives" > a sick joke that is getting more and more backlash now that the longer-term effects of the shots are wrecking havoc and cannot be denied anymore (think the explosion of rapidly emerging cancers in all age-categories). 

Separate one from another. When I said vaccines saved millions of lives, I was mainly referring to previous vaccines for Polio, Rubella, Measles etc. It may also have saved many lives for the Covid vaccine. No one knows as this was an emergency response, getting the Covid vaccine out asap because many were dying from the disease. Calling things poison is wrong without proof. 

 

There is no evidence Covid vaccines have cause any deaths but only theories. Yes, some might have caused problems for some, as all vaccines do, but guessing isn't evidence. If I myself knew it would cause the problems some say they are, I would have hesitated to get one, but in the end, I couldn't travel without one so I got it anyway. Things are different now, with immunity in humans helping to lower incidences, and I wouldn't get any more boosters because of it. 

 

The Polio vaccine saved many with proof of it, along with others. Scientists didn't have much time to see what the Covid vaccine would do, and got them out fast because of the crisis, and might have saved millions of lives. Until there is valid evidence that they have harmful side effects after the initial minor ones, it's only conjecture, and some people believe what others say because they are scientists or writers with their own opinions on the subject. Yes, many younger people are getting cancer now, but to blame it on one thing doesn't work. When it's proven, then everyone will know. I do agree that the very young were not in much danger from Covid, but some did die so it left them wondering what needed to be done. Children a year old died from Covid yet people 100 caught it and lived, so who's to know what works and what doesn't?

[fredwiggy]

12 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

... not to mention the double-whammy of

- denying them treatment with proven life-saving remedies, and

- deadly hospital protocols for those that were hospitalized.

Everyone was panicking when Covid came out, and their responses were to be understood. Seeing so many dying so fast has people doing anything they can to stop it from happening. What else could they do? This comes from one of the worlds best hospitals, although it's from 2021...............https://wilfordhall.tricare.mil/News-Gallery/Articles/Article/3444174/myths-and-facts-about-the-vax-debunking-common-covid-19-vaccine-myths

[xylophone]

13 hours ago, johng said:

Yes injecting an emergency use concoction  for which the maker has no liability and tested on 8 mice

is certainly the way  to protect children,  who by the way had a minuscule risk from the "virus"

Utter nonsense and if you do the research you will find that the mRNA vaccine technology was being worked on in the early 1960s, so the testing period was many years, and as for the "eight mice"......did they live happily ever after? LOL.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Utter nonsense and if you do the research you will find that the mRNA vaccine technology was being worked on in the early 1960s, so the testing period was many years, and as for the "eight mice"......did they live happily ever after? LOL.

LOL indeed.  As it are always those that get their distorted scraps of 'knowledge' from the MSM, and then parrot it from their pro-Vaccine throne, that dismiss posts with another point of view as 'utter nonsense'. 

[Purdey]

The shattering news that RFK jr. Will be providing MMR vaccines to Texas to deal with the measles crisis is an indication he had changed his mind about vaccines.

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Everyone was panicking when Covid came out, and their responses were to be understood. Seeing so many dying so fast has people doing anything they can to stop it from happening. What else could they do?

The enlightened were not 'panicking' one little bit.

 

Where were these people 'dying so fast'? I had my ear to the ground and I couldn't see them. Neither could others; including Dr Vernon Coleman. ''Covid, is the rebranded flu'', he said. I'll go with that.

 

Their responses were in line with the big covid hoax. Money, money money. Has the back-peddling began?

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Everyone was panicking when Covid came out, and their responses were to be understood. Seeing so many dying so fast has people doing anything they can to stop it from happening.

I don't know anyone that died or even went to hospital from COVID.

But my 25yo daughter was rushed to hospital after a COVID vaccine injection, breathing difficulties and racing heart. The hospital in Chiang Mai said her reaction was not unusual.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I don't know anyone that died or even went to hospital from COVID.

But my 25yo daughter was rushed to hospital after a COVID vaccine injection, breathing difficulties and racing heart. The hospital in Chiang Mai said her reaction was not unusual.

Hope your daughter had a fully recovery from the Covid-shot. 

 

Like yourself I don't know anyone that died from COVID. 

But I did know three people where the jab was the final drop in their already existing co-morbidities bucket. 

And several people in my small Isaan village were hospitalized shortly after receiving their 'safe and effective' shot. 

 

Also I don't know anybody that regretted their decision to skip the shots (let alone die or be hospitalized). 

On the other hand. I know only a handful of people that thoroughly regret getting jabbed, due to their health having declined considerably and them blaming it on the shots.

But I do know several people that are now experiencing severe health-troubles but do not make the link with the jabs which they took.  And if you hint to it, they get angry because 'everybody knows that the shots saved millions of lives' and if they had some health issues shortly after the jab 'it would have been worse, if they hadn't taken the shots'. 

[gamb00ler]

15 hours ago, johng said:

He hasn't banned any vaccines  at all ...yet    and why are they necessary ?  how did the human race survive for thousands of years before them if they were necessary, we all should be long gone from this planet by now..no ?   no.

Your argument is about as durable as toilet paper in a dishwasher.

 

For a species to avoid extinction it only needs enough reproduction and survival rate to produce the next generation.

 

Human 'survival' is hardly a yardstick to use when discussing vaccines.  Insane logic.

[Stiddle Mump]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The Polio vaccine saved many with proof of it, along with others.

Really!? Another big porky pie Fred mate.

 

Another one on the list of fraudulent claims made by the compromised and those on the gravy train.

 

Money, money money. Always useful to follow the money trail.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/suzanne-humphries-joe-rogan-vaccines-did-not-eradicate-polio/?

 

 

[johng]

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

Human 'survival' is hardly a yardstick to use when discussing vaccines.  Insane logic.

 

I was replying to the poster who said vaccines are necessary...the fact that human beings existed and thrived for thousands of years before vaccines came a long is proof positive that they are not necessary...   

Insane logic ??  well getting on for 8 billion humans on the planet now perhaps all due to those vaccines which caused a huge population explosion...there is some insane logic for ya. 🤯

[johng]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

And if you hint to it, they get angry because 'everybody knows that the shots saved millions of lives' and if they had some health issues shortly after the jab 'it would have been worse, if they hadn't taken the shots'. 

 

A little bit of humour.

 

[rattlesnake]

4 hours ago, Purdey said:

The shattering news that RFK jr. Will be providing MMR vaccines to Texas to deal with the measles crisis is an indication he had changed his mind about vaccines.

 

It's an indication that the battlespace in which he operates is complex and treacherous. If the children vax schedule isn't removed during his tenure, it will be a big disappointment and betrayal because that's what he was put there for. And ignorance is not an excuse as he wrote The Real Anthony Fauci, which unequivocally exposes the crime against humanity which was commited under the guise of the "Covid response".

[rattlesnake]

5 hours ago, xylophone said:

Utter nonsense and if you do the research you will find that the mRNA vaccine technology was being worked on in the early 1960s, so the testing period was many years, and as for the "eight mice"......did they live happily ever after? LOL.

 

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla disagrees:

 

“mRNA was a technology, but we had less experience, only two years working on this, and actually, mRNA was a technology that never delivered a single product until that day, not vaccine, not any other medicine.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/washington-post-live/2022/03/10/transcript-wp-subscriber-exclusive-albert-bourla-author-moonshot-inside-pfizers-nine-month-race-make-impossible-possible/

[rattlesnake]

7 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Meaning Covid put them over the edge, and a vaccine could have saved them. Hard to tell, as even I don't know whether I needed them or not. I had Covid at least twice, with mild symptoms. Would I have had more serious symptoms without the vaccine or the same? Impossible to know now.

In any case, the trope that people clogging hospitals and dying were unvaccinated, equating non-vaccination to illness and death, is a sophism.

[Bannoi]

I just had my Covid booster on Saturday and last time I checked I was still alive.

[atpeace]

20 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

I just had my Covid booster on Saturday and last time I checked I was still alive.

Did you get a shirt or ribbon.  You seem the type that would cream over  such an item 🙂