Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 Interesting to finally, after a VERY long drought of one sided-ness here, see this forum as with the OP here reporting world news reflecting BOTH realities of the war in Gaza.... and not just the blatantly Israel-only side, as has been the case for a long time. IMHO, both sides have crimes that their leaders and fighters should be held accountable for. But that doesn't and shouldn't excuse the rampant killing of innocents, by either side. 1 1 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Interesting to finally, after a VERY long drought of one sided-ness here, see this forum as with the OP here reporting world news reflecting BOTH realities of the war in Gaza.... and not just the blatantly Israel-only side, as has been the case for a long time. IMHO, both sides have crimes that their leaders and fighters should be held accountable for. But that doesn't and shouldn't excuse the rampant killing of innocents, by either side. No moral equivalence whatsoever between Hamas and Israel. Also not true about the reporting. If you've not noticed there's been a ceasefire going on for a few weeks. Just one recent one after the ceasefire that was in place: Hundreds killed according to Hamas as Israel launches air strikes on Gaza 1
Popular Post NedR69 Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 F ‘em. Let God sort them out. Those adversaries are known to hide and operate in bakeries, hospitals, churches, schools, and other locations. 1 2 3
Popular Post placnx Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Two Million Palestinian Muslims Arabs have been given full Israeli citizenship and they been elected to sit in the Israeli Government . Just a counter claim that Israel has been trying to expel Palestinians for 70 years . \ They have been given full Israeli citizenship While they have citizenship, they are deprived of various rights, such as getting building permits. Amnesty and Human Rights Watch have issued expensive reports on apartheid in the occupied territories and Israel itself. These people are the few who did not flee in 1948 in what we would today call ethnic cleansing. 2 2 1 1
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 17 minutes ago, placnx said: While they have citizenship, they are deprived of various rights, such as getting building permits. Amnesty and Human Rights Watch have issued expensive reports on apartheid in the occupied territories and Israel itself. These people are the few who did not flee in 1948 in what we would today call ethnic cleansing. Yet they all want to stay , they can leave anytime they want to . Jews fled oppression in Arab Countries , but Arabs in Israel refuse to leave They have more freedom and Human rights than Arabs have in neighboring Countries . Israeli Arabs are happy and content in Israel . Don't see them rioting and complaining , just the outsiders complaining on their behalf But, need to get back on topic 3 1
koolkarl Posted April 10 Posted April 10 15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: You’ve obviously not been reading the reports from both sides in this war. Only one side reports the truth. 1 2
koolkarl Posted April 10 Posted April 10 16 hours ago, SMIAI said: @Nick Carter icp It's no surprise to most of us who don't choose to swallow the nonsense of the Israelis being the good guys and victims and the Palestinians being terrorists. Only extremists brush off Palestinians deaths as if they were nothing and as if they were all somehow deserving of their fate at the hands of the Israelis and their allies. Always making excuses or attempting to deflect any atrocity committed by the IDF. The muslims can blame their fate on Hamas who started this mess, refuse to release the hostages, took years to build tunnels that everyone saw in broad daylight. If you happen to be a non believer in Islam, you are on the list too for Hamas and co. 1
stevenl Posted April 10 Posted April 10 7 minutes ago, koolkarl said: Only one side reports the truth. Sad when you believe that. 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 10 Popular Post Posted April 10 1 minute ago, stevenl said: Sad when you believe that. There are two sides. Hamas and Israel, why would you believe the terrorists? 2 1
Popular Post koolkarl Posted April 10 Popular Post Posted April 10 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: Sad when you believe that. Don't be so naive. I have been to the middle east many times and have seen what goes on. Propaganda is one tool muslims use to sway the world with pity. 2 2
stevenl Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Just now, koolkarl said: Don't be so naive. I have been to the middle east many times and have seen what goes on. Propaganda is one tool muslims use to sway the world with pity. So does Israel. Both sides are lying with every sentence they utter. 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 10 Popular Post Posted April 10 Just now, stevenl said: So does Israel. Both sides are lying with every sentence they utter. Oh look, a lame attempt at equivalence to Israel and the terrorists. What a sad apologist. 1 2
Nick Carter icp Posted April 10 Posted April 10 6 hours ago, stevenl said: So does Israel. Both sides are lying with every sentence they utter. Steady on there , some IDF stated that vehicles had no lights on and it seems that the lights may have been on . Its an extreme exaggeration to then claim that everything they say is a lie 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted April 11 Posted April 11 On 4/10/2025 at 1:21 PM, koolkarl said: Don't be so naive. I have been to the middle east many times and have seen what goes on. Propaganda is one tool muslims use to sway the world with pity. and of course Israelis never use propaganda. 2
AboutThaim Posted April 11 Posted April 11 Of course a paramedic would have his phone out taking video of the ambulance while attending the scene of a very recent battle. What else would a first responder be doing? I'm just thinking that just possibly what was on his phone could have been recorded at a different location? Is there any proof that the video was taken at the location of the fire fight? 1 2
thaibeachlovers Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/11/2025 at 6:09 PM, AboutThaim said: Of course a paramedic would have his phone out taking video of the ambulance while attending the scene of a very recent battle. What else would a first responder be doing? I'm just thinking that just possibly what was on his phone could have been recorded at a different location? Is there any proof that the video was taken at the location of the fire fight? Your desperation to invent excuses is noted. They even buried the ambulances. 2
Evil Penevil Posted April 14 Posted April 14 36 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: They even buried the ambulances. The IDF pushed the ambulances and other vehicles off the road with bulldozers to clear the road. The IDF crushed and buried the vehicles so they couldn't be driven again nor used to provide cover for new attacks. 1
Popular Post simple1 Posted April 14 Popular Post Posted April 14 On 4/9/2025 at 6:55 PM, Nick Carter icp said: It's no surprise really, actually it was to be expected . "Release the hostages or their will be an escalation of the war" . Hostages were not released, and the war escalated The Israeli government have publicly stated they will continue with the elimination of Hamas even after all hostages have been released; ain't much of an offer is it? With the excessive killing every day I seriously doubt Israel will eliminate motivation for acts of terrorism going into the future. In the meantime Israel is still killing civilians even though they claim they have excellent intelligence e.g. today's killing of six brothers who had been providing humanitarian aid in Gaza. Israel has now completed occupation of two buffer zones in Gaza, I can't see peace any time soon when one takes into account 700,000 settlers in The West Bank. How the poisonous relations between Palestinians and Israelis will be resolved I do not know. 4
Bkk Brian Posted April 14 Posted April 14 26 minutes ago, simple1 said: The Israeli government have publicly stated they will continue with the elimination of Hamas even after all hostages have been released; ain't much of an offer is it? With the excessive killing every day I seriously doubt Israel will eliminate motivation for acts of terrorism going into the future. In the meantime Israel is still killing civilians even though they claim they have excellent intelligence e.g. today's killing of six brothers who had been providing humanitarian aid in Gaza. Israel has now completed occupation of two buffer zones in Gaza, I can't see peace any time soon when one takes into account 700,000 settlers in The West Bank. How the poisonous relations between Palestinians and Israelis will be resolved I do not know. The Israeli government have publicly stated they will continue with the elimination of Hamas even after all hostages have been released That's not true. Israel has offered the remaining Hamas leaders to leave the country and the other Hamas terrorists to disarm. An excellent offer. More than the scum deserve. You really shouldn't go round spreading misinformation.
simple1 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 17 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: You really shouldn't go round spreading misinformation. <snipped for brevity> Try reading from the "horses mouth" Benjamin Netanyahu says his country will not rest until all Israeli hostages are free and Hamas is destroyed. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/benjamin-netanyahu-vows-to-destroy-hamas/105069174
Bkk Brian Posted April 15 Posted April 15 31 minutes ago, simple1 said: <snipped for brevity> Try reading from the "horses mouth" Benjamin Netanyahu says his country will not rest until all Israeli hostages are free and Hamas is destroyed. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/benjamin-netanyahu-vows-to-destroy-hamas/105069174 I did and your quoting old statements. Please ensure my full response is quoted next time. Netanyahu Offers Hamas Leaders Gaza Exit But Demands Group Disarm https://www.barrons.com/news/netanyahu-offers-hamas-leaders-gaza-exit-but-demands-group-disarm-0c019213
simple1 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I did and your quoting old statements. Please ensure my full response is quoted next time. Netanyahu Offers Hamas Leaders Gaza Exit But Demands Group Disarm https://www.barrons.com/news/netanyahu-offers-hamas-leaders-gaza-exit-but-demands-group-disarm-0c019213 Ok. I wouldn't trust Netanyahu one inch. Sadly with him in power and Hamas IMO I do not see peace any time soon; hopefully I'm wrong, but there doesn't appear to any solution to the continuing expansion of Israeli settlers in the West Bank contrary to UN resolution, nor Gaza. IMO Israelis have lost all creditability with their ongoing daily killings in Gaza and West Bank. 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 hours ago, simple1 said: Ok. I wouldn't trust Netanyahu one inch. Sadly with him in power and Hamas IMO I do not see peace any time soon; hopefully I'm wrong, but there doesn't appear to any solution to the continuing expansion of Israeli settlers in the West Bank contrary to UN resolution, nor Gaza. IMO Israelis have lost all creditability with their ongoing daily killings in Gaza and West Bank. Ok. I wouldn't trust Netanyahu one inch Of course you don't, happy to quote him without questioning your trust when its suited you but as soon as its proven your quote is out dated you suddenly change your tune and this topic is not about the West Bank.
Bkk Brian Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Hamas threatening hospital workers. Nasser Hospital where numerous hostages were once held Where’s your outrage? Hamas continues to threaten hospital workers. The director of nursing at Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis, who announced the hospital is reserved for patients, not militants, received direct threats from Hamas. Hamas is a genocidal terror proxy for who human tragedy is the strategy - intentionally abusing protection afforded to hospitals, schools, civilians…using them as shields & sacrifices. But it is int’l silence, false moral equivalency, impunity…that have emboldened it, its enablers & collaborators.
billd766 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 4/9/2025 at 9:54 PM, NedR69 said: F ‘em. Let God sort them out. Those adversaries are known to hide and operate in bakeries, hospitals, churches, schools, and other locations. Really? And where does your information come from? I ask, because as usual, for many posters don't bother or more likely cannot post a link as there are no verifiable links to post. 1
billd766 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 4/10/2025 at 8:09 AM, koolkarl said: Only one side reports the truth. And which side would that be?
simple1 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Ok. I wouldn't trust Netanyahu one inch Of course you don't, happy to quote him without questioning your trust when its suited you but as soon as its proven your quote is out dated you suddenly change your tune and this topic is not about the West Bank. Netanyahu has ample demonstrated his will to direct his armed forces to kill and to commit crimes against humanity such as blocking all aid into Gaza for the past five weeks or so. Do Yes i do believe him when he declares his wishes to kill all Hamas people in Gaza which would incorporate killing and injuring the innocent - absolutely no doubt whatsoever in my mind along with the opposition in Israel. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, simple1 said: Netanyahu has ample demonstrated his will to direct his armed forces to kill and to commit crimes against humanity such as blocking all aid into Gaza for the past five weeks or so. Do Yes i do believe him when he declares his wishes to kill all Hamas people in Gaza which would incorporate killing and injuring the innocent - absolutely no doubt whatsoever in my mind along with the opposition in Israel. Why don't the Hamas members move away from the innocent people ? Stop them caught up in the fighting ? 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 15 Posted April 15 45 minutes ago, simple1 said: Netanyahu has ample demonstrated his will to direct his armed forces to kill and to commit crimes against humanity such as blocking all aid into Gaza for the past five weeks or so. Do Yes i do believe him when he declares his wishes to kill all Hamas people in Gaza which would incorporate killing and injuring the innocent - absolutely no doubt whatsoever in my mind along with the opposition in Israel. I pointed out your hypocrisy in cherry picking what you do and don't believe in what he says. You've just highlighted it again, well done. Hamas have rejected the latest deal and would rather keep the hostages and carry on their use of civilian human shields to sacrifice. Why do Hamas want to keep the war going? The war can end tomorrow if Hamas releases the hostages and lays down its weapons.
Sir Dude Posted April 15 Posted April 15 The usual pro-Hamas nonsense article that sits well with the Asean Now far-left China supporting members... facepalm 1 1
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