Masks - Why still now?

[actonion]

20 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Sometimes I think noone should ride without but for another reason.

Protect yourself from the terrible pollution from (Diesel) exhaust.

 

Was at an eye doctor with my wife recently and they simple insist on masks.

Also at most hospitals you won't see many without mask.

But no masks in hospital public areas  pre covid, so why now i wonder

[actonion]

20 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

It comes from respect for others, something visiting foreigners could learn from.

Thai's, and respect for others ?,  with their " Me First"  attitude,   I  dont think so, ....especially Road Users,  Loud Neighbors,   Garbage on  every corner etc......there's no respect there..

[Unamerican]

47 minutes ago, bignbad said:

To mask the smell from Farrangs who ony clean their bodies on 'bath night'

This is definitely the reason in my household! 

[Presnock]

1 hour ago, FlorC said:

You better start then Cameroni. We cannot afford to loose you fighting the lefties on AN. 

Just like drinking alcohol or smoking dope or cigarettes - always a bunch of nay sayers but science tells the truth using facts-based evidence.  All one needs to check is to google "masks and pollution protection" as there are numerous testing already done.  Yeah I remember a world class runner from Canada used to run races in Bangkok many years ago - upon returning to Ottawa, having the mandantory physical for govt employee return after which the doctor said you are very healthy but you must give up cigarettes before they kill you or affect your health!  the doctor was told that this employee had never smoked ever but the doctor said the lung xrays showed at least a pack a day smoking and showed pictures of healthy lungs inside and the lungs of the employee and yeah one could easily see the coloring difference.  After that jogging and running in big cities we all started wearing masks regularly.  But health is an individual choice and you are entitled to your choice but you sure won't be able to convince me that exercise or life in a polluted area is completely safe.  If you know of any scientific testing done to prove that fact then please advise because googling health and pollution doesn't show any fact where living in pollution is healthy for humans.

[Bruce Aussie]

Because they think the mask better than a helmet while riding down the wrong side of the road on a scooter.😂😂😂

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

you obviously are not in Bangkok nor the north nor northeast as the pollution is over the WHO recomendation almost daily.  and I am not sure I understand your comment about not having had any bad pollution as being unfortunate.

 

The air here is about 70.

Not too bad.

Last year was worse.

And, two years ago, we actually DID see bad pollution.

But this year, no, and not yet.

 

[Presnock]

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

The air here is about 70.

Not too bad.

Last year was worse.

And, two years ago, we actually DID see bad pollution.

But this year, no, and not yet.

 

70 is not healthy air, almost double as a matter of fact but no problem for you for sure, as the Thai's say "be my guest, do as you want"

[Jerry777]

To cover their ugly noses or to stay off the radar for criminals

[Hamus Yaigh]

51 minutes ago, actonion said:

Thai's, and respect for others ?,  with their " Me First"  attitude,   I  dont think so, ....especially Road Users,  Loud Neighbors,   Garbage on  every corner etc......there's no respect there..

You must live in a rough part of the neighborhood. It happens.

[Jonathan Swift]

Pretty stupid question, really, what does it matter what we "think"? Ask the Thai people themselves. They were wearing masks long before covid. 

[Dcheech]

Lets face it, lots of people look pretty ugly. Masks are an improvement. 

[Jonathan Swift]

53 minutes ago, actonion said:

Thai's, and respect for others ?,  with their " Me First"  attitude,   I  dont think so, ....especially Road Users,  Loud Neighbors,   Garbage on  every corner etc......there's no respect there..

Project much? In case you don't know the term, people see in other people their own worst qualities because they lack the self awareness and honest introspection that mature enlightened adults hav achieved. People like you come here and complain about things that nobody else has a problem with, including and especially seeing and interpreting human qualities. If Thai people don't respect you maybe it means YOU aren't worthy of their respect, maybe  YOU'RE the ɑsshole, not them. It certainly shows in your language. I certainly don't like you. So leave, surely there's some place in the world that measures up to your lofty expectations. Oh, but wait, no matter where you go you will complain, because, project much? We don't need sour attitude chronic complainers, we left them behind in our own countries. Be gone.

[GammaGlobulin]

11 minutes ago, Presnock said:

70 is not healthy air, almost double as a matter of fact but no problem for you for sure, as the Thai's say "be my guest, do as you want"

 

No worries.

It is healthy for around here in CM.

 

If you want extremely low particulates, then Thailand is not the place for you to find such a place.

 

[ronnie50]

They wear them because it's hygenic or they have a sore throat/cough. Pretty obvious isn't it? Oh, but you didn't include those options in your cynical "poll". I always wear one on the Skytrain and MRT when it's crowded. On the airplane too (unless seated with family).

 

I'm not scared - it's just common sense. Do you wear a seatbelt when driving?  Should we have a poll?

[Cameroni]

21 minutes ago, Presnock said:

you sure won't be able to convince me that exercise or life in a polluted area is completely safe.

 

I got news for you buddy. You are dying every day. Every single meal you eat causes inflammation in your body. There is no such thing as "completely safe" in this world. Or any other world.

 

If you want "completely safe" may be go live in a bubbble or something. But don't tell other people what to do, because you're clueless.

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Just because you read a scientific paper on X does not make it so, there's another scientific paper saying the exact opposite. If you think you can trust scientists we'll end up like we did during the pandemic with the UK scientists in chief arguing for 7 months whether wearing masks makes any sense at all or not, locking everyone up and giving us totally false predictions. The last time we trusted scientists 7 trillion USD of wealth was destroyed because of the common cold. So STFU about masks, if you want to go out wearing a  mask be my guest, but don't tell other people what to do. We will be just fine without your sage advice and paranoia about little tiny particles in the air.

 

Nobody tells me to wear a mask ever again. 

[johng]

36 minutes ago, Bruce Aussie said:

riding down the wrong side of the road on a scooter

With shorts , flip flops and an amulet  for further protection.

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

 

Having lived in Bangkok since the late 1980s I can assure you that, prior to Covid, virtually no-one wore masks at any time. Seasonal mask wearing because of air pollution only started once people had access to smartphone apps warning about PM2.5 levels and even then, it was a very small minority that wore masks.

 

It is false to suggest otherwise. This is an image from 2016. Not a mask in sight.

 

 

 

Not sure where you live in bkk but quite a few were wearing masks well before covid especially during buying season.

[Presnock]

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I got news for you buddy. You are dying every day. Every single meal you eat causes inflammation in your body. There is no such thing as "completely safe" in this world. Or any other world.

 

If you want "completely safe" may be go live in a bubbble or something. But don't tell other people what to do, because you're clueless.

'

Just because you read a scientific paper on X does not make it so, there's another scientific paper saying the exact opposite. If you think you can trust scientists we'll end up like we did during the pandemic with the UK scientists in chief arguing for 7 months whether wearing masks makes any sense at all or not, locking everyone up and giving us totally false predictions. The last time we trusted scientists 7 trillion USD of wealth was destroyed because of the common cold. So STFU about masks, if you want to go out wearing a  mask be my guest, but don't tell other people what to do. We will be just fine without your sage advice and paranoia about little tiny particles in the air.

 

Nobody tells me to wear a mask ever again. 

If you read my notes, you will see that I always tell folks that it is their choice to do or not to do.  This is an "opinion forum" and just like you, I have an opinion and I usually say IMHO but that should be understood on this forum.  You don't have to get all upset, as I never told you that you HAD to wear a mask.  You seem like a lot of other folks on this forum that think it is for you only, but again, it is an opinion forum and opinions are just like <deleted>, everyone has one.  sorry if you misinterpret my comments.

[dinsdale]

21 hours ago, Sheryl said:

It has always been customary in Asia to wear a mask if suffering from a cold, and also common to use them during times of air pollution. Well before COVID.

Japan yes but here people sneeze and cough everywhere. Even during covid I couldn't say how many times I saw Thais pulling their masks down to sneeze.

[shackleton]

Only wear when going to the hospital 🏥

use to when I went to the  immigration office  but not any more 

Always carry a mask if its required not a big deal 

[Cameroni]

41 minutes ago, Presnock said:

If you read my notes, you will see that I always tell folks that it is their choice to do or not to do.  This is an "opinion forum" and just like you, I have an opinion and I usually say IMHO but that should be understood on this forum.  You don't have to get all upset, as I never told you that you HAD to wear a mask.  You seem like a lot of other folks on this forum that think it is for you only, but again, it is an opinion forum and opinions are just like <deleted>, everyone has one.  sorry if you misinterpret my comments.

 

Okay, Presnock, I accept that. But the last time it was your opinion that supported a whole paranoia and orgy of wealth destruction and curtailing of personal freedoms that affected all of us. 

[Woke to Sounds]

Because Fauch said it's the right thing to do  👍

[Woke to Sounds]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

If you think you can trust scientists we'll end up like we did during the pandemic with the UK scientists in chief arguing for 7 months whether wearing masks makes any sense at all or not, locking everyone up and giving us totally false predictions.

 

Day job scientists but also mere actors playing a part in a much larger theatrical performance.

 

The fact that severe psychological damage was inflicted on countless numbers of children and young students and millions of small businesses were destroyed is telling isn't it.

 

Never a straight answer on the masks by the way.

 

Symbolically masks respresent a silencing of individual voice, of opinion.

 

Another brick in the wall so to speak...

[Chosenfew]

In the USA, it’s a Lib’s cult version of a MAGA hat.

[Cameroni]

31 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds said:

 

Day job scientists but also mere actors playing a part in a much larger theatrical performance.

 

The fact that severe psychological damage was inflicted on countless numbers of children and young students and millions of small businesses were destroyed is telling isn't it.

 

Never a straight answer on the masks by the way.

 

Symbolically masks respresent a silencing of individual voice, of opinion.

 

Another brick in the wall so to speak...

 

Well, when the UK's finest started arguing in Cobra on whether wearing masks actually confers any benefit I knew we were in trouble. They didn't even know that. Conflicting studies, sorry. Marginal benefit. Maybe. Possibly in closed spaces. Maybe not. Conflicting studies sorry.

 

They did their best, Neil Ferguson and his crack team. Sadly it wasn't good enough. Predictions way off. Numbers way off. Sweden doing great. I'm sure they believed what they were saying. I'm sure they did their best. But it was just not good enough. Biggest failure of science in our lifetime. Stunning political abdication to clueless scientists. We all paid the bill.

[Aussie999]

If you have no Thai friends to ask, then I feel sorry for you... Surely there's more important things for you to be concerned with.

[Woke to Sounds]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Neil Ferguson

 

Was Ferguson the bloke lecturing all to stay home and mask up, meanwhile he was commuting across London to shag the axrse off some married bird?  😂

 

Perhaps I'm mixing up the players in the UK production...

[Aussie999]

Wrong post

[Cameroni]

13 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds said:

 

Was Ferguson the bloke lecturing all to stay home and mask up, meanwhile he was commuting across London to shag the axrse off some married bird?  😂

 

Perhaps I'm mixing up the players in the UK production...

 

Yes, he predicted Armaggedon, thereby conferring all power onto himself, which politicians like Boris Johnson kindly abdicated to him, and promptly mandated lockdowns.

 

Except for himself and his strumpet of course.

[Presnock]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Okay, Presnock, I accept that. But the last time it was your opinion that supported a whole paranoia and orgy of wealth destruction and curtailing of personal freedoms that affected all of us. 

As a 78-year old I claim to have forgotten any paranoia and wealth destruction, curtailling of personal freedoms so could you refresh my memory time frame was what year?